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malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-05 15:45:07
January 05 2016 15:44 GMT
#4561
lol... still baffles me why they would get rid of Ancelotti in the first place.
SatsuinoHado
Profile Joined May 2010
Bulgaria777 Posts
January 05 2016 15:50 GMT
#4562
On January 05 2016 21:21 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 19:24 SatsuinoHado wrote:
Ok after Del Bosque scandal 13-14 years ago I always though Perez is business man and is running Real Madrid like you run Company and not a Football Club so if people expect loyalty to anyone or anything from him well that is MONEY. That is the ONLY thing he likes and is going for. As a Real Fan for 17+ years my last hope was Papa Anchelotti however after him there is NO ONE that will be "fit" for Real for more than a year or two that is as long as Perez is there and this broke my heart one too many times

He's not. There's no business which sacks a manager every year. Especially one like Ancelotti. Perez is just crazy.


Im trying to give reasonable explanation about the most retarded person to EVER be a Director of big football club...
People call me Jack, OMASJack
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 05 2016 16:02 GMT
#4563
So the Man City + Pep Guardiola talk is/was just a rumor? Imagine Guardiola at a Club like Arsenal...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18775 Posts
January 05 2016 16:56 GMT
#4564
On January 06 2016 01:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So the Man City + Pep Guardiola talk is/was just a rumor? Imagine Guardiola at a Club like Arsenal...


Would achieve literally nothing because Arsenal doesn't spend big money?
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4139 Posts
January 05 2016 16:57 GMT
#4565
On January 06 2016 00:44 malcram wrote:
lol... still baffles me why they would get rid of Ancelotti in the first place.

I still feel the reason is Barca. RM vs Barca didnt happen at CL 2015 grandfinal.
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2745 Posts
January 05 2016 17:49 GMT
#4566
Zidane is already receiving shit as a "New Florentino puppet" from Madrid supporters on Internet because he said he is going to continue using BBC and most of them want a 4-4-2 with James and Isco, and they expected that he had more courage than Ancelotti and Benitez.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
January 05 2016 20:40 GMT
#4567
Stoke 0-1 Liverpool
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 05 2016 20:42 GMT
#4568
That assist was Welsh Xavi, he is so good. He clearly means that
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-06 07:44:32
January 06 2016 07:22 GMT
#4569
On January 05 2016 20:15 Pandemona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 20:12 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Bye bye Benitez, don't let the door hit you on the way out. A horrible decision to sack Ancelloti and bring Benitez from the start. If truly Perez wanted Pep, oh well, thats like asking Yoda to train Kaylo Ren. The solution to most of the Real squad problems is very simple on paper: bench one of the BBC and play with another midfielder. It worked like a charm the second half of 2014. The problem is that Perez's hand is very obvious here, forcing to play with the unsuitable Bale, far after his prime Ronaldo and the pet criminal Benzema, and also trying to fit the new toy James in there, without anyone defending properly.

About Zidane, a large unknown. On the one hand one of the smartest players in the game's history, initially at least the players will respect him but he is very unexperienced. Pep was also without main stage experience when he got Barca in his hands, but Barca is an easier working environment, without a megalomaniacal president steering and hostile media stirring in everything.

Also he had arguably the best squad in the world to work with! Zidane has a good squad that cannot defend which is why Benitez did not work out. Tried to do something he is not. Like you said playing an extra midfielder is the only way to work the Real Madrid system due to Bale and Ronaldo will track back in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.

Time will tell i guess but Real Madrid fans will be happy now, they have a club legend managing them...how long before they start getting on his back though? Or worst the idiot in charge of the whole thing getting frustrated.


Thats an unfair assessment, he made that squad what it was. You have to give him credit for that. He didnt just pop into an all conquering powerhouse. The Rijkjaard team was well on the decline.

On January 06 2016 01:56 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 01:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So the Man City + Pep Guardiola talk is/was just a rumor? Imagine Guardiola at a Club like Arsenal...


Would achieve literally nothing because Arsenal doesn't spend big money?


They spend enough money to get what he needs. I dont recall him really breaking banks anywhere. He buys expensive players sure, but aside from Ibra I cant think of any real flops + Show Spoiler +
(and Ibra wasnt much of a statistical flop except his bad run. He just didnt want to fit in the system, not be top dog and all that and that doesnt work for Pep hes super anal about that I am led to believe.)


edit: wait, I just remembered that Chgrynski fellow, he was probably the worst pickup.

He wont go there, but not because they wont spend the money.
Dante08
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Singapore4203 Posts
January 06 2016 10:28 GMT
#4570
On January 06 2016 16:22 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 05 2016 20:15 Pandemona wrote:
On January 05 2016 20:12 ApocAlypsE007 wrote:
Bye bye Benitez, don't let the door hit you on the way out. A horrible decision to sack Ancelloti and bring Benitez from the start. If truly Perez wanted Pep, oh well, thats like asking Yoda to train Kaylo Ren. The solution to most of the Real squad problems is very simple on paper: bench one of the BBC and play with another midfielder. It worked like a charm the second half of 2014. The problem is that Perez's hand is very obvious here, forcing to play with the unsuitable Bale, far after his prime Ronaldo and the pet criminal Benzema, and also trying to fit the new toy James in there, without anyone defending properly.

About Zidane, a large unknown. On the one hand one of the smartest players in the game's history, initially at least the players will respect him but he is very unexperienced. Pep was also without main stage experience when he got Barca in his hands, but Barca is an easier working environment, without a megalomaniacal president steering and hostile media stirring in everything.

Also he had arguably the best squad in the world to work with! Zidane has a good squad that cannot defend which is why Benitez did not work out. Tried to do something he is not. Like you said playing an extra midfielder is the only way to work the Real Madrid system due to Bale and Ronaldo will track back in a 4-3-3 or 4-2-3-1.

Time will tell i guess but Real Madrid fans will be happy now, they have a club legend managing them...how long before they start getting on his back though? Or worst the idiot in charge of the whole thing getting frustrated.


Thats an unfair assessment, he made that squad what it was. You have to give him credit for that. He didnt just pop into an all conquering powerhouse. The Rijkjaard team was well on the decline.

Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 01:56 sharkie wrote:
On January 06 2016 01:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So the Man City + Pep Guardiola talk is/was just a rumor? Imagine Guardiola at a Club like Arsenal...


Would achieve literally nothing because Arsenal doesn't spend big money?


They spend enough money to get what he needs. I dont recall him really breaking banks anywhere. He buys expensive players sure, but aside from Ibra I cant think of any real flops + Show Spoiler +
(and Ibra wasnt much of a statistical flop except his bad run. He just didnt want to fit in the system, not be top dog and all that and that doesnt work for Pep hes super anal about that I am led to believe.)


edit: wait, I just remembered that Chgrynski fellow, he was probably the worst pickup.

He wont go there, but not because they wont spend the money.


Well you don't really need to spend money when you have Messi, Xavi, Iniesta, Busquets etc.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 06 2016 10:33 GMT
#4571
He moved on Deco Ronaldinho and couple others too which i assume raised funds for him to get Pique back from Yanited right and not sure who else he signed? Guess Alves was one. But the basis of his team, was there when he took it over which was Messi Xavi Iniesta Busquets Puyol.

I will only judge pep management from when he comes to the premier league anyway if he can put "his style" of possession based football to work in England and win titles with it then i will be impressed.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
January 06 2016 12:02 GMT
#4572
We've had this argument before. Xavi wasn't considered that great before Pep came. He's also the one who started playing with Busquets who is so ridiculously important for the team.

Pep did actually buy quite a few players tho. Pique and Alves like you said pande but also Keita, Mascherano and Villa. There's some flops as well.
TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
January 06 2016 13:18 GMT
#4573
On January 06 2016 01:56 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 06 2016 01:02 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
So the Man City + Pep Guardiola talk is/was just a rumor? Imagine Guardiola at a Club like Arsenal...


Would achieve literally nothing because Arsenal doesn't spend big money?


Well Arsenal spent more on Özil than Bayern ever spent on one player. And with Guardiola as a coach Arsenal gets more attractive for the players.

But of course it's very unlikely. I don't think Arsenal wants to pay his 20+ million salary and why would they sack poor Wenger?
Respect my authoritah!!
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 06 2016 13:22 GMT
#4574
Because Wenger is old and old and very old. They will have to get rid of him eventually as he clearly does not want to leave. If he doesn't win anything substantial this year after it being such an easy league due to everyone playing like crap then he really has to look at himself.
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
Sadir
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Vatican City State1176 Posts
January 06 2016 14:25 GMT
#4575
On January 06 2016 22:22 Pandemona wrote:
Because Wenger is old and old and very old. They will have to get rid of him eventually as he clearly does not want to leave. If he doesn't win anything substantial this year after it being such an easy league due to everyone playing like crap then he really has to look at himself.


honestly wenger has a free pass since like forever, if you don't kick him after not winning anything for like 10+ years (ah didnt they win the league cup or sth like this last year), it would be kind of weird to kick him after they spend literally nothing this summer
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 06 2016 14:48 GMT
#4576
This is true but he has ALWAYS had the opportunity to spend on players right? Just doesn't "find" the ones he wants or 90% of the time at the valuation he thinks is fit?

Anyway time will tell
ModeratorTeam Liquid Football Thread Guru! - Chelsea FC ♥
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6326 Posts
January 06 2016 14:57 GMT
#4577
He prefers a random Frenchie instead :p.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18775 Posts
January 06 2016 15:53 GMT
#4578
Benitez got sacked and is still full of praise for Real.

He really must be a fanboy o.o
Twoflowers
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany241 Posts
January 06 2016 16:20 GMT
#4579
On January 05 2016 23:14 Pandemona wrote:


Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang has fuelled speculation he is set to leave Borussia Dortmund after missing the club's return to training following the winter break on Tuesday.



Aubameyang is on his way to the election of Africas Player of the Year and will rejoin the team in Dubai... Never trust the british press when it's reporting rumours about Bundesliga players.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
January 06 2016 16:26 GMT
#4580
Haha
Let us believe !
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