EPT2015 NBA Finals - Page 52
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
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icystorage
Jollibee19347 Posts
TT, shump, delly, perk, marion(retiring), jones last year of their contracts. | ||
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rabidch
United States20289 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 18 2015 10:56 zev318 wrote: cavs favourite to win next year, did i miss something here. are they just counting on love to resign and irving to not get injured and JR smith can shoot higher than 30%? No other team in the league has over a 50% chance of making it to the Finals, which is why they are obviously the favorite. | ||
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jinorazi
Korea (South)4948 Posts
On June 18 2015 09:38 DystopiaX wrote: made the finals with 2 of their best 3 players gone, went to a defense-first old school ISO heavy offense to carry them there? sure did nothing ok Chances are, any coach could have done it with LeBron in the east. As for ability, I think he deserves another year. He is accomplished outside of nba, I think he will do better next year. Speaking of coach, I expect kerr, draymon, curry, and thompson to create the first gsw dynasty...or at least I hope. | ||
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AgentW
United States7725 Posts
On June 18 2015 11:16 cLutZ wrote: No other team in the league has over a 50% chance of making it to the Finals, which is why they are obviously the favorite. Even the Warriors? 538 had them as such an overwhelming favorite to win the title this year that I wouldn't be shocked. EDIT: Here's the link. They had them at 48% to win the title when the playoffs started. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/is-vegas-underrating-the-warriors/ | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 18 2015 11:26 AgentW wrote: Even the Warriors? 538 had them as such an overwhelming favorite to win the title this year that I wouldn't be shocked. EDIT: Here's the link. They had them at 48% to win the title when the playoffs started. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/is-vegas-underrating-the-warriors/ Its quite obvious that no other team is above 50% to make the finals as the Thunder and GSW are both 5-1, which means all other Western Conference teams would have to be 0% for either to have a 50/50 shot. Even 538, right when the playoffs began, with no regular season injuries, after a historic regular season, only had GS at 49% chance to win the title. http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/is-vegas-underrating-the-warriors/ You also have to realize that these playoffs Golden State was spared a matchup against both the Clippers and Spurs, which were the teams most likely to defeat them ,whereas next year they might have to go through both those teams in the playoffs, plus the East Champ. | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
I agree Jordan seems to be the superior offensive player- at least for one play. I just don't know if he fits the current NBA as well as he did the old. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
The modern NBA does reward a Lebron-like playstyle a lot more though because the 3-PT shot which does let him amplify "shitty" players, and also the rules don't punish his weak midrange game the way they would had he been playing in the 80s/90s. | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On June 18 2015 11:53 Jerubaal wrote: To be honest, I think the Warriors disappointed a bit. The Cavs may have over-exaggerated how competitive they were, though. I expected the Warriors to dominate more, but it might have been like the Steelers being behind by 10 where you know that those 10 fucking points might as well be 100. I agree Jordan seems to be the superior offensive player- at least for one play. I just don't know if he fits the current NBA as well as he did the old. Well I think this Warriors team can only get better. If you think about the first 3 games as a first time finals experience against the best player who has been there so many times. Thats another reason why Iggy was mvp. Old heads are so important mentally. Guys like Harrison Barnes were disaster level bad in the first 3 games. Once they found their feet in game 4 there was only one winner imo. | ||
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whatisthisasheep
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oneofthem
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
lebron's minutes is a very serious problem but without the early season deficit that they had this year they don't have to play him as much. a fresher lebron in the playoffs is still too much for the east | ||
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Jerubaal
United States7684 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
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Jerubaal
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
Let us list the ways: No. 1 in the NBA in pace in the regular season running offense three point shooting team jump shooting team switches a lot on defense went ultra small in the Finals not just with a stretch 4, but with a stretch 5 as well best player is a point guard a short, skinny point guard at that as well as a scoring point guard who shoots a lot of threes very into analytics Trust a team from near Silicon Valley to be the disruptor. In terms of championships, it is now jump shooting teams - 1, Charles Barkley - 0. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:13 andrewlt wrote: I am just so glad that the Warriors won. Their championship is pretty much a middle finger to NBA traditionalists. Let us list the ways: No. 1 in the NBA in pace in the regular season running offense three point shooting team jump shooting team switches a lot on defense went ultra small in the Finals not just with a stretch 4, but with a stretch 5 as well best player is a point guard a short, skinny point guard at that as well as a scoring point guard who shoots a lot of threes very into analytics Trust a team from near Silicon Valley to be the disruptor. In terms of championships, it is now jump shooting teams - 1, Charles Barkley - 0. So, like, I'm kind a of with you until the end there. Charles can't be blamed for doubting a style that took a historically great amalgamation of players playing against depleted teams to win a title. In addition, that style was legislated into the game after he left the game, plus in just the playoffs the Celtics, Hawks, Rockets, etc all also tried to use that tactic to lesser effect. And the middle finger to traditionalists was given by the NBA rules committee. | ||
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DystopiaX
United States16236 Posts
On June 19 2015 05:24 cLutZ wrote: So, like, I'm kind a of with you until the end there. Charles can't be blamed for doubting a style that took a historically great amalgamation of players playing against depleted teams to win a title. In addition, that style was legislated into the game after he left the game, plus in just the playoffs the Celtics, Hawks, Rockets, etc all also tried to use that tactic to lesser effect. And the middle finger to traditionalists was given by the NBA rules committee. but if you think about it it's not like the Heat or the Spurs were old school ISO heavy, pound the post teams either. They both featured lots of ball movement, role players who were great at shooting 3s, and whenever they went to postups it was more to draw double teams and looking for open shooters than to score directly | ||
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ticklishmusic
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Jerubaal
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