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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-18 22:23:56
February 18 2016 22:20 GMT
#1841
creatine dehydrating as shit >< /nosleep
it does seem insanely effective tho when i actually get to the gym
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 18 2016 22:37 GMT
#1842
I tried one of those guru protein shakes. Holy balls, I had the protein farts that day.

When do you know to increase weight? I do dumbbell bench press and am doing 3x8 + some extra reps at the end. I hadn't lifted in like a week, though. Should I increase the weight or go another week?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-18 23:03:54
February 18 2016 23:03 GMT
#1843
On February 19 2016 07:20 FFGenerations wrote:
creatine dehydrating as shit >< /nosleep
it does seem insanely effective tho when i actually get to the gym

It shouldn't be either of those things actually. You want to drink maybe an extra half a liter of water a day with it if you're taking 5g (4 liters going up to 4.5), and in most people it only means an extra rep or maybe two, not "insanely effective."

On February 19 2016 07:37 Jerubaal wrote:
I tried one of those guru protein shakes. Holy balls, I had the protein farts that day.

When do you know to increase weight? I do dumbbell bench press and am doing 3x8 + some extra reps at the end. I hadn't lifted in like a week, though. Should I increase the weight or go another week?

Depends what you're lifting for and what place that exercise has in your routine.

Side note, if you dont know the answer to this question you shouldn't be making your own routine, and if you're using a routine made by someone else that doesn't explicitly answer this question for you, that person also has no business making routines.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-19 02:48:52
February 19 2016 02:36 GMT
#1844
i think it could be because i'm having the creatine before bed so nomatter how much water i have beforehand it fucks me up within a few hours......... i mean its 2am now and i'm woken up cottonmouthed dying for a drink having heartwrenching nightmares about the girl i love posting pictures of herself with her lover in a scrapbook. damn you creatine. i don't even need to pee right now which is the usual wake-up problem when restarting gym/nutrition
next week i'll switch to having it in the morning before work which is a bit annoying but looks like a necessity
as for insane effectiveness, i noticed it with bench press like crazy, i was pounding out reps with greatly reduced resting requirement, it took me by surprise. it might also be that i've been adhering to very high protein intake but i def felt like i was doing a lot more than i should have been able to. (reducing a base resting requirement from 3 minutes to 2m40 is quite a big swing when you're sitting there watching the clock tick around, and pounding out 10 reps when you expected to be capable of no more than 8 is always shocking)
wai gril no love me ;
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
February 19 2016 05:03 GMT
#1845
Sounds like your on bipolar disorder not creatine lol. I never felt more dehydrated than usual on creatine and at best just made me feel a bit stronger in my high volume squat routines.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-19 13:05:21
February 19 2016 13:05 GMT
#1846
Seconding what decaf and phyre said.

Being sick is balls. So tired during my training.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 19 2016 19:33 GMT
#1847
"i mean its 2am now and i'm woken up cottonmouthed dying for a drink having heartwrenching nightmares about the girl i love posting pictures of herself with her lover in a scrapbook. damn you creatine"

This is quotation worthy.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
February 19 2016 21:50 GMT
#1848
Haven't hit Romanian deadlifts in a while. Damn I forgot how much those hurt. Hamstring cramps for days.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-20 00:41:10
February 20 2016 00:30 GMT
#1849
Power cleaned 120kg today after 2 misses. My strength is getting close to my pre crossfit level :D

Also beat my crossfit trauma and jumped to the 30 inch box lol.
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
February 21 2016 08:50 GMT
#1850
Deadlift PRs today! Those 15 rep sets paid off. Previously my best was 180kg on a stiff bar, and 190kg (gripped failed at the top) with a whippy Oly bar. Today used a stiff bar and got 200kg, then slightly hitched 210kg.





Road to 5 plates begins! Hopefully I can pull 250+ on a DL bar in Aug cos there'll be a meet then and It'll be awesome to break a national record
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
Kronen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States732 Posts
February 21 2016 16:36 GMT
#1851
^ Nice dude! Keep it up!!
johnathongard
Profile Joined February 2016
1 Post
February 23 2016 14:46 GMT
#1852
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-23 22:58:17
February 23 2016 22:42 GMT
#1853
managed 5k in 29.40 yesterday .... i was doing the HUUUH! HUUUUH! noise for 25 mins straight (u know when u are exherting urself to breaking point except it goes on every breath for 25 mins)
i swear to god creatine increases my performance to the point of being dangerous, even my heart pain came back half way thru when i dared to put the speed up for a few seconds (nb i know its "heart pain" coz i can distinguish it and recognise it from way back 3 years ago (and on other occaisions of course) when i started running and got it pretty often)
and it (creatine) dehydrates me to an equal level
i had it in the morning yesterday and almost got a headache by midday and pissed twice at work for ages (pre creatine i never pissed at work once let alone twice). on the other hand i only woke up at 6am? this morning which is an improvement. so yeah i'm basically convinced

also i'm pretty much proved i got a slipped disc of some sort (if you remember ive had back problems for like 4 years now just i gave up talking about it. i would lie on my laptop sometimes in bed just to get a hard surface under me and 2 weeks ago it smashed the screen also i got a special cushion at work but it sucks and i basically sit sideways in my chair and slumped over leaning on one side. and since i can't sleep on my back due to my eyes staying open , i usually try to sleep on my front coz it stretches my back out better even tho it is a suffocation risk).
anyway the proof came when i'm doing dragonflags on a bench, the movement of putting my legs down puts a lot of pressure and movement on my back , and the last 2 weeks its been causing a part of my back to painfully slip during this movement. the same part that i always need to click back into place on my laptop+some duvet to poke into it. so slipped disc or slippable back is confirmed.
on the other hand it made me go try dragonflags on the mats instead of on a bench, and i was super lucky that this gym has a pillar you can hold onto behind your head, so i could do PROPER dragonflags for a change and it was awesome AND (crucially) my back wasn't slipping from that . also i cant do dragonflags obviously but i try

anyway thats gym news i also ordered a sick microphone so maybe you can hear me singing (REALLY BADLY) friday night lol. also i done 1 FULL form pullup today no problem yay :/
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Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
February 24 2016 01:08 GMT
#1854
lol I highly doubt Creatine does as much as you think it does
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
February 24 2016 05:40 GMT
#1855
On February 24 2016 07:42 FFGenerations wrote:
i swear to god creatine increases my performance to the point of being dangerous, even my heart pain came back half way thru when i dared to put the speed up for a few seconds (nb i know its "heart pain" coz i can distinguish it and recognise it from way back 3 years ago (and on other occaisions of course) when i started running and got it pretty often)
and it (creatine) dehydrates me to an equal level
i had it in the morning yesterday and almost got a headache by midday and pissed twice at work for ages (pre creatine i never pissed at work once let alone twice). on the other hand i only woke up at 6am? this morning which is an improvement. so yeah i'm basically convinced


This is 100% not caused by creatine. Neither headaches, increased pissing, or heart pain would result as of normal use of creatine. Extreme dosing of creatine can cause stomach cramps and diarrhea, normal dosing causes pretty much 0 side effects. Creatine can sometimes provide slight stimulant effect (likely placebo).
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
February 24 2016 16:44 GMT
#1856
On February 24 2016 07:42 FFGenerations wrote:
managed 5k in 29.40 yesterday .... i was doing the HUUUH! HUUUUH! noise for 25 mins straight (u know when u are exherting urself to breaking point except it goes on every breath for 25 mins)

That's not an efficient way to run a race. In training you're going to want to be working more in the 70-85% range, just like you are in weightlifting, with occasional higher intensity efforts.

On February 24 2016 07:42 FFGenerations wrote:
i swear to god creatine increases my performance to the point of being dangerous, even my heart pain came back half way thru when i dared to put the speed up for a few seconds (nb i know its "heart pain" coz i can distinguish it and recognise it from way back 3 years ago (and on other occaisions of course) when i started running and got it pretty often)
and it (creatine) dehydrates me to an equal level

Its incredibly unlikely that you're actually getting heart pain in this instance for the last 3 years if you're still alive (unless it was diagnosed and you're managing it with medication.) If you genuinely think you're getting heart pain as a result of running you need to see a doctor and get a referral to a cardiologist for a stress test NOW. Like call out of work today and go sit in your primary doc's office all day if you have to until he sees you.

On February 24 2016 07:42 FFGenerations wrote:
i had it in the morning yesterday and almost got a headache by midday and pissed twice at work for ages (pre creatine i never pissed at work once let alone twice). on the other hand i only woke up at 6am? this morning which is an improvement. so yeah i'm basically convinced

The disruption in sleep/increased urination might be the opposite of what you think it is, you're actually drinking too much water. If you're drinking a ridiculous amount it could be causing headaches due to ion (esp. sodium) depletion, but that's incredibly unlikely. What's more likely is that this is all a placebo because creatine is very extensively tested and there are no studies that say a reasonable (5-15g depending on bodyweight) dose does even a quarter of the things you're ascribing to it.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-24 21:28:41
February 24 2016 18:53 GMT
#1857
nah/yeah im probably just not drinking enough water but thanks for the idea. today i got thru my giant 1.5 litre water bottle and 1 cup coffee and feel cottonmouthed as SHIT right now. will have another litre this evening i guess but from the numbers that's pretty low it turns out (actually i thought my water bottle was 2 litre wtf) coz that would be like 2.5 litres/day max for me probably. and you're menna be like 3.5 aren't you

the heart thing is a reasonably distinct mild pain i get if i havent ran/gym for ages and try to push myself. if i go to a gp they will say "maybe u shudnt have smoked and alcoholed for the past 15 years" and "don't overdo it". it goes away after a few sessions as i become fitter (note: i can't "push through it", i always slow down and sometimes outright stop if it doesn't start to fade away), i was just remarking that i had pushed myself SO hard that it came on again the other day. i mean i was having isolated heart palpatations on a daily basis, cramps in my calfs, almost fainting after deadlifts, the list goes on, its not surprising that my heart/cardio system is fucked. what am i supposed to do about it? no one is going to listen to a 30 year old who just ran 5km in under 30 minutes, fuck they wouldnt even let me get an xray for my back last time i approached them about it and i was basically crying in the womans fucking office (i did get an xray for my lungs tho last yr after i burnt my lung on weed and wanted to check it wasnt cancer causing the pain and got a really nice doctor and also almost passed out randomly and called an ambulance which i guess helped (they said it must have been an anxiety attack). the point is im fucked and i know it, i just gotta exercise and nutrition and the improvements are monumental so long as i keep it up

if you really think i shud ask a gp about it (which you do) i will go ahead and msg my gp friends tonight

On February 25 2016 01:44 phyre112 wrote:
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On February 24 2016 07:42 FFGenerations wrote:
managed 5k in 29.40 yesterday .... i was doing the HUUUH! HUUUUH! noise for 25 mins straight (u know when u are exherting urself to breaking point except it goes on every breath for 25 mins)

That's not an efficient way to run a race. In training you're going to want to be working more in the 70-85% range, just like you are in weightlifting, with occasional higher intensity efforts.

yeah i tend to push myself as far as i can pretty often, at least when it comes to running. i think i find it inherently fun to do that. like nothing is more fun than just going all out in something lol. and when you're shit-tier but still know how to go all-out, you're gonna do a lot of HUUUH!ing (and pushing urself too hard)


edit

went 4km in 24mins , legs pounded from squats yesterday,
will go see a GP, i need to get referred to some fuckign acne treatment anyway, also i need to have someone check me out for Scoliosis coz this girl said i might have it and it might explain my back problem
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TerransHill
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany572 Posts
February 24 2016 19:51 GMT
#1858
On February 19 2016 07:37 Jerubaal wrote:
I tried one of those guru protein shakes. Holy balls, I had the protein farts that day.

When do you know to increase weight? I do dumbbell bench press and am doing 3x8 + some extra reps at the end. I hadn't lifted in like a week, though. Should I increase the weight or go another week?


I increase weight everytime I manage to do all my reps "clean".
For example benchpress my aim is to do 5x5 reps. When I realize that I can't lift anymore or my technique gets messed up I stop and try again next work out. As soon as I manage to get clean 5x5 reps I increase weight.

So when you manage to do your 3x8 you should probably increase weight.
Respect my authoritah!!
Ehzera
Profile Blog Joined August 2014
Singapore212 Posts
February 29 2016 08:36 GMT
#1859


20kg squat PR, got a little too excited to hit 200
“A tree without roots is just a piece of wood.” - Marco Pierre White
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
February 29 2016 08:49 GMT
#1860
Sick. Congratz mate.
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