• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 19:41
CET 00:41
KST 08:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
2026 KongFu Cup Announcement3BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled11Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains15Weekly Cups (March 2-8): ByuN overcomes PvT block4GSL CK - New online series18
StarCraft 2
General
Blizzard Classic Cup - Tastosis announced as captains BGE Stara Zagora 2026 cancelled BGE Stara Zagora 2026 announced ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Terran AddOns placement
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament 2026 KongFu Cup Announcement [GSL CK] Team Maru vs. Team herO StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 516 Specter of Death Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year
Brood War
General
BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10 ASL21 General Discussion BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Are you ready for ASL 21? Hype VIDEO Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL22] Open Qualifiers & Ladder Tours IPSL Spring 2026 is here! ASL Season 21 Qualifiers March 7-8
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Path of Exile Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread PC Games Sales Thread No Man's Sky (PS4 and PC)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Five o'clock TL Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Mexico's Drug War Russo-Ukrainian War Thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread General nutrition recommendations Cricket [SPORT] TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2365 users

TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 - Page 9

Forum Index > Sports
Post a Reply
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 233 Next
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
January 19 2015 23:55 GMT
#161
It's crazy to me that you can snatch more than you can press. I don't understand how that works because I suck at oly lifting.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
January 20 2015 03:47 GMT
#162
On January 20 2015 08:55 IgnE wrote:
It's crazy to me that you can snatch more than you can press. I don't understand how that works because I suck at oly lifting.


Haha my press will never be anywhere close to my snatch. Hell my bench is barely in the ball park, but that's probably as much from a lack of benching as a proficiency in snatching.

I believe caleb ward only pressed around 70-90kg and snatch/cj around 160/200kg
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 20 2015 05:13 GMT
#163
I can't imagine someone who is efficient in snatching having a higher press than snatch. You're still mostly using your legs in a snatch, whereas a strict press is mostly just upper body. Perhaps a push press would be closer in comparison.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
January 20 2015 06:40 GMT
#164
I know it's not. I just know that I can press 275+ lbs for reps but wouldn't be able to snatch that.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 20 2015 13:13 GMT
#165
I can't snatch as much as I OHP. Tis scary.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15363 Posts
January 20 2015 13:15 GMT
#166
I can't even clean my OHP Well not entirely true but they are very close.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 20 2015 13:18 GMT
#167
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
January 20 2015 13:58 GMT
#168
Skipped squats again today, knees still hurt. Not sure if they have improved the last week, maybe a little. Will probably pass Saturday as well.

Urge to squat rising =(
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
January 20 2015 14:51 GMT
#169
On January 20 2015 15:40 IgnE wrote:
I know it's not. I just know that I can press 275+ lbs for reps but wouldn't be able to snatch that.


To be fair that's a pretty insane press. Most olympic lifters will never even snatch 275+. My best triple is 275, but I will NEVER press that even for a single lol. I think that's higher than the most I've ever push pressed. Not that I do much push pressing.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 20 2015 15:23 GMT
#170
On January 20 2015 23:51 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 15:40 IgnE wrote:
I know it's not. I just know that I can press 275+ lbs for reps but wouldn't be able to snatch that.


To be fair that's a pretty insane press. Most olympic lifters will never even snatch 275+. My best triple is 275, but I will NEVER press that even for a single lol. I think that's higher than the most I've ever push pressed. Not that I do much push pressing.


I'm quite sure Igne is either 300 pounds or meant bench press.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 20 2015 15:24 GMT
#171
On January 20 2015 22:58 Fwmeh wrote:
Skipped squats again today, knees still hurt. Not sure if they have improved the last week, maybe a little. Will probably pass Saturday as well.

Urge to squat rising =(


Rest usually never fixes anything. Where is your knee pain coming from exactly?
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
January 20 2015 15:36 GMT
#172
On January 21 2015 00:24 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 22:58 Fwmeh wrote:
Skipped squats again today, knees still hurt. Not sure if they have improved the last week, maybe a little. Will probably pass Saturday as well.

Urge to squat rising =(


Rest usually never fixes anything. Where is your knee pain coming from exactly?

Just above knee caps, both knees. I think it is the quad tendon, not sure. Hurts when loading the knees past 90 degrees. Pain does not really vary that much with load, hurts about the same sitting down as it does when doing heavy back squats.

Thing is, I have had it for some time now, and I think it is slowly getting worse.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 20 2015 15:42 GMT
#173
How tight and knotty are your quads? Have you tried foam rolling them?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Fwmeh
Profile Joined April 2008
1286 Posts
January 20 2015 16:03 GMT
#174
Foam rolled every day the past 7 days, stopped hurting by the 3rd day or so. Not sure if it does anything, but I hadn't tried it before.
A parser for things is a function from strings to lists of pairs of things and strings
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-20 16:20:50
January 20 2015 16:20 GMT
#175
Get in there with a lacross ball or orbital buffer (pretty much the same as a massager). Do glute stretching/stabilizing (esp glute med) which is what stablizes your knee laterally.

obligatory kelly starret:
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=kelly starrett quad tendon
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
January 20 2015 16:38 GMT
#176
On January 21 2015 00:23 GoTuNk! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2015 23:51 decafchicken wrote:
On January 20 2015 15:40 IgnE wrote:
I know it's not. I just know that I can press 275+ lbs for reps but wouldn't be able to snatch that.


To be fair that's a pretty insane press. Most olympic lifters will never even snatch 275+. My best triple is 275, but I will NEVER press that even for a single lol. I think that's higher than the most I've ever push pressed. Not that I do much push pressing.


I'm quite sure Igne is either 300 pounds or meant bench press.


Well he is big as fuck. 275 press wouldn't overly surprise me.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 20 2015 16:49 GMT
#177
On January 21 2015 01:03 Fwmeh wrote:
Foam rolled every day the past 7 days, stopped hurting by the 3rd day or so. Not sure if it does anything, but I hadn't tried it before.

Hope this gives you some ideas
http://www.endurancewod.com/_library/MobilityWOD - PSE Chapter.pdf
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Thalandros
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Netherlands1151 Posts
January 20 2015 17:37 GMT
#178
Right, so, here goes:

I'm 17, Male. My workout 2x a week, (preferably Monday & Friday). My BF% is about 15-16% right now.

5x5 Squats
5x5 Bench Press
1x5 Deadlift
3x8 Side lateral raises
3x12 Lat Pulldown
10-15Min of HIIT

Wednesday:

5x5 Squats
5x5 Overhead Press
1x5 Deadlift
3x8 Arm Curls
3x8 Chest Flyes
10-15Min HIIT

Can someone tell me if this is a good workout? I'll be in the gym for 1hr, maybe a bit more if I take the cardio seriously. I really need to build some pure strength before anything else. RIght now I'm benchpressing barely 30KG (without counting the bar) and I really need to step that up before anything else.
Aside from that I want to lose a slight amount of fat still, I realise 16% isn't ideal and could be improved. Don't want to be a skinny bones though! I'm assuming I shouldn't hardcore-cut while doing a workout like this, but a slight caloric deficit with enough protein can't hurt, right?


One more question, how do you set realistic goals? How can I know if I keep this up, I'll for example deadlift X in so many weeks/months?
Would love to hear people's opinions
|| ''I think we have all experienced passion that is not in any sense reasonable.'' ||
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 20 2015 17:48 GMT
#179
On January 21 2015 02:37 Thalandros wrote:
Right, so, here goes:

I'm 17, Male. My workout 2x a week, (preferably Monday & Friday). My BF% is about 15-16% right now.

5x5 Squats
5x5 Bench Press
1x5 Deadlift
3x8 Side lateral raises
3x12 Lat Pulldown
10-15Min of HIIT

Wednesday:

5x5 Squats
5x5 Overhead Press
1x5 Deadlift
3x8 Arm Curls
3x8 Chest Flyes
10-15Min HIIT

Can someone tell me if this is a good workout? I'll be in the gym for 1hr, maybe a bit more if I take the cardio seriously. I really need to build some pure strength before anything else. RIght now I'm benchpressing barely 30KG (without counting the bar) and I really need to step that up before anything else.
Aside from that I want to lose a slight amount of fat still, I realise 16% isn't ideal and could be improved. Don't want to be a skinny bones though! I'm assuming I shouldn't hardcore-cut while doing a workout like this, but a slight caloric deficit with enough protein can't hurt, right?


One more question, how do you set realistic goals? How can I know if I keep this up, I'll for example deadlift X in so many weeks/months?
Would love to hear people's opinions


That's a solid routine, I think 3x a week would be bettter if you get the chance. Not sure you can keep up with the HIIT though, I would do it once a week on my last training day on your shoes,and have 3x lifting days.
Strength is independent of muscle mass up to a point, at your current levels and age you can certainly make decent gains before stalling with this routine.
Don't set up goals, just focus on lifting more weight and with better form constantly. Remember strength is a skill, muscle development is a by product.
Don't forget to developa appropiate flexibility, specially for the high bar squat !

zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15363 Posts
January 20 2015 17:49 GMT
#180
What is your height / BW?

If you want to "build some pure strength before anything else" you need to eat at a surplus, not a deficit. It's not impossible to gain strength on a deficit (especially as a beginner) but in the end it's just no fun. I would suggest the more conventional lifting on a calorie surplus and adjusting your intake after a while if you feel you are putting on too much fat. If you take your lifting seriously and don't eat on a huge surplus that shouldn't even happen though.

As far as the program goes, conventional wisdom is that deadlifting every other day (on top of squats) would be too much. But that's really something you should find out for yourself. As a beginner you can probably get away with it and still recover. Personally I would find it a bit boring that's why alternate squats / front squats and DL / cleans and rows. The important part is that you have the big lifts in there though.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
Prev 1 7 8 9 10 11 233 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
BSL
20:00
S22 - Ladder Tour #1
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
elazer 278
PiGStarcraft261
Nathanias 128
JuggernautJason87
Ketroc 69
Nina 64
ROOTCatZ 44
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 10628
ZZZero.O 94
Backho 57
Dota 2
monkeys_forever356
canceldota30
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 70
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox620
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor286
Other Games
summit1g10168
FrodaN4977
KnowMe383
crisheroes222
mouzStarbuck205
ViBE35
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2454
ComeBackTV 209
BasetradeTV106
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 18 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 46
• davetesta3
• OhrlRock 1
• IndyKCrew
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 10
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• masondota21435
League of Legends
• Doublelift4972
• Scarra1097
Other Games
• imaqtpie1410
Upcoming Events
Sparkling Tuna Cup
10h 19m
RSL Revival
10h 19m
ByuN vs SHIN
Maru vs Krystianer
WardiTV Team League
12h 19m
Patches Events
17h 19m
BSL
20h 19m
GSL
1d 8h
Wardi Open
1d 12h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 17h
OSC
2 days
WardiTV Team League
2 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
4 days
KCM Race Survival
4 days
WardiTV Team League
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
KCM Race Survival
5 days
WardiTV Team League
5 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
6 days
BSL
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-13
WardiTV Winter 2026
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
BSL Season 22
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
2026 Changsha Offline CUP
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
NationLESS Cup
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.