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On September 30 2016 04:20 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2016 04:04 IgnE wrote:On September 30 2016 03:06 Dante08 wrote:On September 27 2016 00:06 Jer99 wrote:On September 25 2016 16:16 Dante08 wrote:
Hi guys, my left knee sort of gave way during football and there was a crack sound before I fell. May I know what are the possible injuries? Afraid it might be an acl tear.
I can still bend my knee to 90 degrees and walk slowly, it's not really painful as well and but there is some swelling. Thanks in advance. Sounds very similar to when I tore my acl minus the crack sound Yeah when for an MRI the next day and confirmed is was a full acl tear  Sucks that I won't be able to play sports for almost a year. But I shall persevere and work hard towards recovery! How long ago did you injure yourself and how was the recovery process like? Any tips to share? your knee will never be the same. accept this now. my tip is dont go back into the gym two weeks after surgery to deadlift 400. had mine rebuilt while in college 8 years ago and my left leg is still smaller than my right, my knee swells after high impact sports, and is generally less capable than my right. i attribute that to the nature of the operation but also maybe not rehabbing/healing optimally. pushing it too fast in the gym and not focused enough on proper symmetrical development. Fully anecdotal evidence., one of our coaches had an ACL tear plus bone damage and even after surgery he was basically cripple for more than a year. He started "juicing" (I am not sure what exactly did he took) but in a few months he was doing stuff again and he is pretty much functional for everything now. (He still does his rehab stuff every day without exception)
functional for everything doesn't mean its the same. it's not like i whined about it. im pretty sure i was stronger than everybody in this thread 2 years after i had it replaced. i squatted 405 for 20 reps 3 years after i replaced it. but it's still not the same and anyone who tells you it is going to be the same is straight up lying.
in fact i was basically functional like 6 months after the surgery. i was squatting on it 4 months afterward. it still isn't the same and never will be.
all i'm saying is is that it's far more likely you end up like derrick rose (functional but not your old self) than adrian peterson. i don't think even adrian peterson would tell you his knee is the same as it was pre-acl tear if you asked him in a private heart-to-heart. (let's not even talk about RG3)
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Canada8157 Posts
On September 30 2016 05:42 Aerisky wrote:
man acl tears sound really scary, did you guys also get it through a high impact sport, or was it from lifting, etc?
running in soccer, put my foot down to stop and start running in the other direction, but when i put my foot down my knee didn't stop and it tore
fast forward a couple of years, i was literally just running in a straight line and it popped again
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On September 30 2016 06:26 Jer99 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2016 05:42 Aerisky wrote:
man acl tears sound really scary, did you guys also get it through a high impact sport, or was it from lifting, etc? running in soccer, put my foot down to stop and start running in the other direction, but when i put my foot down my knee didn't stop and it tore fast forward a couple of years, i was literally just running in a straight line and it popped again
oh so this is the second time? how did you not know ?
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On September 30 2016 06:33 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2016 06:26 Jer99 wrote:On September 30 2016 05:42 Aerisky wrote:
man acl tears sound really scary, did you guys also get it through a high impact sport, or was it from lifting, etc? running in soccer, put my foot down to stop and start running in the other direction, but when i put my foot down my knee didn't stop and it tore fast forward a couple of years, i was literally just running in a straight line and it popped again oh so this is the second time? how did you not know ?
first time i went to the hospital and the lady said everything was fine, just give it rest. it was never fine after that, i always had problems running full sprint. after the second time i got an MRI and found out it was torn
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ridiculous. didn't she do lachman's test?
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On September 30 2016 06:56 IgnE wrote:
ridiculous. didn't she do lachman's test?
she didn't do anything, it was bullshit
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On September 30 2016 06:08 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2016 04:20 GoTuNk! wrote:On September 30 2016 04:04 IgnE wrote:On September 30 2016 03:06 Dante08 wrote:On September 27 2016 00:06 Jer99 wrote:On September 25 2016 16:16 Dante08 wrote:
Hi guys, my left knee sort of gave way during football and there was a crack sound before I fell. May I know what are the possible injuries? Afraid it might be an acl tear.
I can still bend my knee to 90 degrees and walk slowly, it's not really painful as well and but there is some swelling. Thanks in advance. Sounds very similar to when I tore my acl minus the crack sound Yeah when for an MRI the next day and confirmed is was a full acl tear Sucks that I won't be able to play sports for almost a year. But I shall persevere and work hard towards recovery! How long ago did you injure yourself and how was the recovery process like? Any tips to share? your knee will never be the same. accept this now. my tip is dont go back into the gym two weeks after surgery to deadlift 400. had mine rebuilt while in college 8 years ago and my left leg is still smaller than my right, my knee swells after high impact sports, and is generally less capable than my right. i attribute that to the nature of the operation but also maybe not rehabbing/healing optimally. pushing it too fast in the gym and not focused enough on proper symmetrical development. Fully anecdotal evidence., one of our coaches had an ACL tear plus bone damage and even after surgery he was basically cripple for more than a year. He started "juicing" (I am not sure what exactly did he took) but in a few months he was doing stuff again and he is pretty much functional for everything now. (He still does his rehab stuff every day without exception) functional for everything doesn't mean its the same. it's not like i whined about it. im pretty sure i was stronger than everybody in this thread 2 years after i had it replaced. i squatted 405 for 20 reps 3 years after i replaced it. but it's still not the same and anyone who tells you it is going to be the same is straight up lying. in fact i was basically functional like 6 months after the surgery. i was squatting on it 4 months afterward. it still isn't the same and never will be. all i'm saying is is that it's far more likely you end up like derrick rose (functional but not your old self) than adrian peterson. i don't think even adrian peterson would tell you his knee is the same as it was pre-acl tear if you asked him in a private heart-to-heart. (let's not even talk about RG3)
Yeah I never said it was the same. But he went from actual limping to being able to do box jumps and even pistols. His flexibility is def limited, specially for full snatches, and it looks kinda different (it looked like a balloon before though).
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On September 30 2016 05:43 mordek wrote:
I'm pretty sure you can do a lot worse things. I'm stronger than I ever was prior to the injury. I tried to kickblock a frisbee while running and the thrower faked and I tried to stop in front of him :/ Was dumb.
Damn lol D: RIP but that's good to hear that you're stronger
On September 30 2016 06:34 Jer99 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2016 06:33 IgnE wrote:On September 30 2016 06:26 Jer99 wrote:On September 30 2016 05:42 Aerisky wrote:
man acl tears sound really scary, did you guys also get it through a high impact sport, or was it from lifting, etc? running in soccer, put my foot down to stop and start running in the other direction, but when i put my foot down my knee didn't stop and it tore fast forward a couple of years, i was literally just running in a straight line and it popped again oh so this is the second time? how did you not know ? first time i went to the hospital and the lady said everything was fine, just give it rest. it was never fine after that, i always had problems running full sprint. after the second time i got an MRI and found out it was torn
jesus fuck lol T_T also fucked up that they didn't diagnose it properly the first time wtf
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Thanks for the tips guys. Yeah I accepted my knee wont be the same and I probably won't play with the same intensity when I get back just to be safe.
Good thing is I'll be having the op in 3 weeks time and gonna work really hard on that.
Acl injuries really suck from what I read and heard. There's no warning at all your leg just gives way.
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I don't think anyone said it will be the same but I'd say we've given him a clearer picture of post-ACL repair life.
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On September 30 2016 20:33 Dante08 wrote:
Thanks for the tips guys. Yeah I accepted my knee wont be the same and I probably won't play with the same intensity when I get back just to be safe.
Two guys in my rugby team have undergone ACL surgery in the past couple years. Both over 30 years old and both are back and playing 100% Definitely not the same, and there's still pain/soreness but it's not limiting them. it took about 9 months for them to get running around the field and 12-18 months to really be able to play confidently again.
Just do your re-hab religiously. And do as much pre-hab work until surgery you can. Work with a PT.
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On September 30 2016 22:58 decafchicken wrote:
Just do your re-hab religiously. And do as much pre-hab work until surgery you can. Work with a PT.
Also be picky about the actual therapist assigning your PT. Try to find someone who is used to working with athletes. A lot of PTs only ever see elderly patients and very out of shape individuals and it can affect how they work with you.
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On September 26 2016 11:12 IgnE wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2016 02:58 Jerubaal wrote:On September 26 2016 02:01 IgnE wrote:On September 25 2016 13:29 Jerubaal wrote:On September 25 2016 08:02 IgnE wrote:On September 25 2016 05:54 Jerubaal wrote:
I'm pretty sure that's not the case. I pay a lot of attention to where my elbows are, but I'll keep them extra tight just for you to see if there's a difference.
I was trying them with a neutral grip earlier (which I did a lot years ago for some reason), but I didn't really like that. Maybe that means i should do it. you probably have scapular winging then. you need someone who knows what that is to diagnose you. It's mostly on my left side. Does that fit? its possible to have scapular winging on only one side or worse on one side than another if thats what you are asking. are you left handed? No, I'm right handed, although a little cross dominant. The feeling I get from lifting with my right vs left arm is rather different. When I'm pulling with my right arm, it feels very localized, like only my pecs and tris are working, while when I pull with my left, it feels like the whole arm is working. It's really apparent when I do bent over rows. I considered that this might be because the major muscles in my left arm aren't as strong, so the arm tries to recruit as many muscles as it can, while the right arm is just trained to only recruit the major muscles because they are stronger. possibly. seems like deficient motor recruitment on your left side and probably scapular instability/winging.
I was trying to read around and a few pages said that trap pain was associated with winging, which seems to fit. Is the solution to this to do serratus exercises?
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serratus is helpful. get a theraband and do band pull aparts while focusing on proper scapular depression to improve the firing patterns. doing like 100 a day every day for a month or two really helped me. do them especially before any upper body workouts to help you feel the muscles you are supposed to be recruiting. there are a few other exercises a PT could show you, but are hard to explain without demonstration. maybe focus on really holding the top of the plank position in perfect form with proper scapular depression. also you can try wall alphabets -- put a ball or sliding prop in your hand and extend it to the wall while you stand away from it. your arm should be fully extended and scapula properly retracted. then trace the alphabet on the wall while maintaining control of your scapula.
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Learning how to "feel the muscles" through exercises like igne describes above is essential to fighting against injury, particularly for men looking to incorporate weightlifting into their long-term health habits.
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fk i got triggered and ate like 5000 kcal of peanut butter
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On October 07 2016 05:33 FFGenerations wrote:
fk i got triggered and ate like 5000 kcal of peanut butter
isn't that like 2 pounds?
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I'm going into analysis paralysis here, but I think my trap probably definitely has something to do with it. The pain started to feel more and more like it was centered around the upper shoulder and trap. I've had pain lifting overhead in the past. I just figured I had shitty shoulders.
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Its the season to start looking for new pants again. Its always hard to find something comfortable that aren't super baggy.
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The obvious solution is to get something super baggy and then get that tailored
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