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decafchicken
United States20063 Posts
http://www.amazon.com/Musclemeds-Carnivor-Chocolate-4-6-Pounds/dp/B004HY325K/ref=sr_1_1?s=hpc&ie=UTF8&qid=1426864735&sr=1-1&keywords=Carnivor | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
I would go with the beef protein. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20063 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On June 04 2016 00:56 Aerisky wrote: Dunno, like cholesterol and stuff I guess, whatever makes red meat unhealthy. That makes sense though. Should I be concerned about the sodium content? If I get two scoops to for 46g of protein (roughly 2/5ths of the total protein I need daily), that's already 30% dv of sodium. That's vegan propaganda. Cholesterol and sodium from natural sources are a non-issue for healthy people. You can lick a salt cube for fun and your kidneys will just flush it away (still not recomended) High carbs from refined products are what makes you fat. | ||
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RvB
Netherlands6243 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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Pulimuli
Sweden2766 Posts
On June 04 2016 01:18 Aerisky wrote: Oh I'm not concerned with getting fat off cholesterol, iirc it relates more to heart disease etc. I'm pretty underweight anyway, and since it's protein isolate it seems like the red meat concerns are a non issue. However, I typically eat a pretty salty diet so I was just concerned about blowing by the daily value for sodium, which I presume would not be good. When you are young its probably not a big deal, if you are active then you won't have much to worry about. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20063 Posts
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
It's been really hard for me to find legitimate protein sources to which I'm not allergic so I really appreciate it  edit: meh yolo just went ahead and got the one with lowest sodium. It's kind of weird that there's so much variation among the products, not only with different flavors, but also within the same flavor lol. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20063 Posts
On June 04 2016 02:19 Aerisky wrote: Okay, thanks guys! All else being equal, the last link has much lower sodium content (somehow, kinda fishy since it's even the same brand and it differs a lot??) so it can't hurt to go there right? It's been really hard for me to find legitimate protein sources to which I'm not allergic so I really appreciate it edit: meh yolo just went ahead and got the one with lowest sodium. It's kind of weird that there's so much variation among the products, not only with different flavors, but also within the same flavor lol. I work at a beverage development company..you wouldn't believe how many things you think would be similar are completely different and vice versa. You could have a product labeled Organic, Non-GMO, etc. or a name brand that is the exact same thing as the product next to it but is 200% more expensive -_- | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On June 04 2016 01:18 Aerisky wrote: Oh I'm not concerned with getting fat off cholesterol, iirc it relates more to heart disease etc. I'm pretty underweight anyway, and since it's protein isolate it seems like the red meat concerns are a non issue. However, I typically eat a pretty salty diet so I was just concerned about blowing by the daily value for sodium, which I presume would not be good. Dietary cholesterol doesn't have an impact on blood cholesterol in the majority of people. If you're nervous about blood cholesterol, be more active especially cardio first, worry about diet second (both saturated fat and cholesterol intake) but in most people if you decrease dietary intake your liver just kicks up its own production to compensate. Lower sodium is always better but it shouldn't be a major concern if you don't already have hypertension or a history o heart disease and are active. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
On June 04 2016 03:13 decafchicken wrote: I work at a beverage development company..you wouldn't believe how many things you think would be similar are completely different and vice versa. You could have a product labeled Organic, Non-GMO, etc. or a name brand that is the exact same thing as the product next to it but is 200% more expensive -_- lol damn ~__~ On June 04 2016 08:31 phyre112 wrote: Dietary cholesterol doesn't have an impact on blood cholesterol in the majority of people. If you're nervous about blood cholesterol, be more active especially cardio first, worry about diet second (both saturated fat and cholesterol intake) but in most people if you decrease dietary intake your liver just kicks up its own production to compensate. Lower sodium is always better but it shouldn't be a major concern if you don't already have hypertension or a history o heart disease and are active. Mm that makes sense, thanks! Oh yeah since this is still actually the TL H&F initiative, my goals this summer: go from 120-->140 lbs (I am 5'10"  ), hit 145 lbs on bench, 200 squat, 135 row, 250 deadlift, 100 shoulder press, and 20 pullups in a row. They're really, really rough goals, and more just a general guideline to see whether I can get to them. I'm more or less a beginner even though I've been working out for a decent while and have the form pretty much down--I kept tapering off in the middle of the semester. Doing 3 day splits with bench/squat/row, and deadlift/press/pullup.I realized that the friend who got me into weightlifting originally told me to do 3 sets of 5 for pretty much everything besides deadlift and pullup. For deadlift, he told me to do 5 sets of 1 rep each. I've since become aware that this is basically SS except SS recommends 1 set of 5 reps after warming up. Did he just misunderstand LOL? I'm trying to get stronger obviously, but 5 sets of 1 rep seems to be a very weird strength-based program from what I understand. Should I be doing the 1 set of 5? Also, if I were to do so, what's a recommended warmup amount (do I just do one weight, then straight to the target weight? or are there supposed to be multiple sets of warmups)--what do you recommend for a beginner? (both for the deadlift and for the other exercises) | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On June 04 2016 10:28 Aerisky wrote: lol damn ~__~ Mm that makes sense, thanks! Oh yeah since this is still actually the TL H&F initiative, my goals this summer: go from 120-->140 lbs (I am 5'10" ), hit 145 lbs on bench, 200 squat, 135 row, 250 deadlift, 100 shoulder press, and 20 pullups in a row. They're really, really rough goals, and more just a general guideline to see whether I can get to them. I'm more or less a beginner even though I've been working out for a decent while and have the form pretty much down--I kept tapering off in the middle of the semester. Doing 3 day splits with bench/squat/row, and deadlift/press/pullup.I realized that the friend who got me into weightlifting originally told me to do 3 sets of 5 for pretty much everything besides deadlift and pullup. For deadlift, he told me to do 5 sets of 1 rep each. I've since become aware that this is basically SS except SS recommends 1 set of 5 reps after warming up. Did he just misunderstand LOL? I'm trying to get stronger obviously, but 5 sets of 1 rep seems to be a very weird strength-based program from what I understand. Should I be doing the 1 set of 5? Also, if I were to do so, what's a recommended warmup amount (do I just do one weight, then straight to the target weight? or are there supposed to be multiple sets of warmups)--what do you recommend for a beginner? (both for the deadlift and for the other exercises) He probably just misunderstood. There are reasons to do five singles on the deadlift, but they're reasons that apply to late intermediates and advanced lifters; If you're not pulling 600+ pounds (I'm not either, it's cool) they probably don't apply. Work up to a top set of five. If you're just going to pull a single set of five and feel like you want more practice or volume there's nothing wrong with taking 10ish pound jumps towards the end of your warmup. If you were pulling 225 at a top set, maybe hit 185, 195, and 205 as well. If you don't think you need the volume, don't bother. Warmups will be different for everyone, and different for every lift. Mine, for example: Squat I will take an empty bar, and just sit in the bottom position for 20-30 seconds, and do that two or three times. I might shift side to side or front to back to loosen up my hips and ankles. 135 for 5-8 reps focusing on staying tight on the way down. If I'm feeling tight I may take 5 reps at 185. 225 for 3-5 reps focusing on speed out from the bottom 275 for 3 295 for 1-2 315 for 1-2 then work sets which are in the 325-345 range for me right now. Bench I'll just hit 8 or so with the empty bar focusing on a stretch in my pecs 5 at 135 focusing on my arch and keeping my shoulders tucked 2 sets of 2-3 at 185 focusing on my elbows work sets (205-225 range) I usually bench after squatting so my body is very ready to go, just need to adjust to the movement more than anything. Deadlift falls on its own day, but I do quite a bit of volume so I like to warm up quickly. 3-5 at 135 3-5 at 225 3 at 315 3 at 365 If my work sets are in the low 400's (triples or doubles) I'll take 1-2 at 385, if it's 5+ reps I'll be pulling around 385 for work sets so I'm done. | ||
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Aerisky
United States12129 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15353 Posts
On June 04 2016 10:28 Aerisky wrote: Oh yeah since this is still actually the TL H&F initiative, my goals this summer: go from 120-->140 lbs (I am 5'10" ), hit 145 lbs on bench, 200 squat, 135 row, 250 deadlift, 100 shoulder press, and 20 pullups in a row. They're really, really rough goals, and more just a general guideline to see whether I can get to them. I'm more or less a beginner even though I've been working out for a decent while and have the form pretty much down--I kept tapering off in the middle of the semester. Doing 3 day splits with bench/squat/row, and deadlift/press/pullup.Imo you should be aiming at 160lb+ bodyweight at that height. 120lb sounds insanely low. On the plus side, guaranteed everyone on this board is jealous of the beginner gain potential you have! As long as you eat like a crazy person, keep you protein intake up, and hit the weights you will make awesome progress from where you are starting out. You target goals sound reasonable. Just remember you will probably have a good lift and a bad lift - everyone has. So don't get discouraged if say your press starts stalling way before your other lifts. I don't know how many pullups you can do right now, but if they are not already in the double digits 20 pullups is by far the most ambitious of your goals. Remember you'll be adding real weight so they will get harder every month! | ||
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Ehzera
Singapore212 Posts
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MtlGuitarist97
United States1539 Posts
On June 04 2016 18:21 zatic wrote: If you are just starting out there is only so much warm up you can do. I mean if after adding one set of plates you are already at 90% work set there is little reason to keep warming up at that weight just for warming up sake. Imo you should be aiming at 160lb+ bodyweight at that height. 120lb sounds insanely low. On the plus side, guaranteed everyone on this board is jealous of the beginner gain potential you have! As long as you eat like a crazy person, keep you protein intake up, and hit the weights you will make awesome progress from where you are starting out. You target goals sound reasonable. Just remember you will probably have a good lift and a bad lift - everyone has. So don't get discouraged if say your press starts stalling way before your other lifts. I don't know how many pullups you can do right now, but if they are not already in the double digits 20 pullups is by far the most ambitious of your goals. Remember you'll be adding real weight so they will get harder every month! Yeah, I agree that the pullups goal might be a bit too hard to get. You could do it if you were doing pullups/rows every single day for the entire summer, but I think that a SS-style program doesn't have enough volume for you to really be able to develop your pullups the way that you'd like. Decaf, how have you been working on your lower traps? I've been trying to work on some of the imbalances in my upper body (especially weak upper chest, rhomboids, and rear delts), and I could definitely use some extra on my lower traps. | ||
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