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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 09:50:16
May 27 2015 09:49 GMT
#14561
On May 27 2015 18:35 sneirac wrote:
Such a shame, this would have been a great opportunity to rethink bad decisions and try to cleanse FIFA, even with Blatter still in place.

Why is it a shame? Yeah, Qatar is a fiasco but at least now FIFA knows it is not untouchable. Wonder how it will affect the elections on Friday.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
haitike
Profile Joined June 2009
Spain2742 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 09:53:05
May 27 2015 09:52 GMT
#14562
It would be nice a change, the level of FIFA corruption is outragerous. (If they could bring down too the corrupt 30 years dictator Villar of the spanish federation would be nice too xD).

But I think nothing will change.
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
May 27 2015 09:53 GMT
#14563
Hehe

sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 27 2015 09:53 GMT
#14564
On May 27 2015 18:49 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 18:35 sneirac wrote:
Such a shame, this would have been a great opportunity to rethink bad decisions and try to cleanse FIFA, even with Blatter still in place.

Why is it a shame? Yeah, Qatar is a fiasco but at least now FIFA knows it is not untouchable. Wonder how it will affect the elections on Friday.

It's great that FIFA is being investigated, but it's a shame that FIFA isn't using this as an opportunity to change their stance and try to change from the inside.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
May 27 2015 09:54 GMT
#14565
All of a sudden FIFA regrets their effort of popularizing football in the US.
Turns out the president of CONCACAF is the chief of FIFA's internal audit. What a joke.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 27 2015 09:57 GMT
#14566
Yeah i mean holy shit this is just terrible. The way they just deflect everything all the time is bullshit.



Sums it up. What a complete farce! They are worst than any politicians, at least they are not above the law (as much) as FIFA are it seems. An untouchable organization that effects so much in the world, why has it taken the FBI to get involved! Why hasn't any organisation in Europe stood up. I guess maybe due to UEFA isn't as bad? or :s
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zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
May 27 2015 10:13 GMT
#14567
On May 27 2015 18:57 Pandemona wrote:
Why hasn't any organisation in Europe stood up. I guess maybe due to UEFA isn't as bad? or :s

UEFA is bad, maybe not FIFA level but its plain bad. Its a bit of a grey area, you can only arrest people from your own country or put out warrants for crimes on your territory. The EU is a joke anyway.

I know in Serbia the government was debating cleaning up our football bigwigs who were/are really really corrupt. UEFA just said: 'Now hold on, you aren't thinking about mixing politics and sport are you? You don't want to get banned from FIFA and UEFA do you?'
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Deleted User 26513
Profile Joined February 2007
2376 Posts
May 27 2015 10:16 GMT
#14568
On May 27 2015 19:13 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 18:57 Pandemona wrote:
Why hasn't any organisation in Europe stood up. I guess maybe due to UEFA isn't as bad? or :s

UEFA is bad, maybe not FIFA level but its plain bad. Its a bit of a grey area, you can only arrest people from your own country or put out warrants for crimes on your territory. The EU is a joke anyway.

I know in Serbia the government was debating cleaning up our football bigwigs who were/are really really corrupt. UEFA just said: 'Now hold on, you aren't thinking about mixing politics and sport are you? You don't want to get banned from FIFA and UEFA do you?'

No it's not. UEFA on the other hand is.
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 27 2015 10:40 GMT
#14569
I remember when Fifa ethics comittee said that there were no case of corruptions, which EVERYONE knew was bullshit (regarding the Qatar 2022 fiasco)

Im so happy
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
May 27 2015 10:48 GMT
#14570
On May 27 2015 19:40 Faruko wrote:
I remember when Fifa ethics comittee said that there were no case of corruptions, which EVERYONE knew was bullshit (regarding the Qatar 2022 fiasco)

Im so happy

I think about every single poster in this thread would say there is corruption in FIFA. Maybe not everybody from Blatter down to the cleaning lady is corrupt but a fair few are. How is it possible that this could keep going for so long even with a unanimous consensus that the organization is rotten?

These people would not even have been arrested if they had used a bank outside of America.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 27 2015 10:52 GMT
#14571
the corruption case with the US is cool and stuff but shouldn't change too much with the traditionnal: individuals did wrong, the org is fine.

On the other hand there is way more potential in the swiss investigation if this carries on. And FIFA has been kind of a disgrace for Switzerland these days so there is a glimmer of hope I guess.
Zest fanboy.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 27 2015 10:56 GMT
#14572
On May 27 2015 19:48 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 19:40 Faruko wrote:
I remember when Fifa ethics comittee said that there were no case of corruptions, which EVERYONE knew was bullshit (regarding the Qatar 2022 fiasco)

Im so happy

I think about every single poster in this thread would say there is corruption in FIFA. Maybe not everybody from Blatter down to the cleaning lady is corrupt but a fair few are. How is it possible that this could keep going for so long even with a unanimous consensus that the organization is rotten?

These people would not even have been arrested if they had used a bank outside of America.

There was a German article about this last weekend, the basis of it was that the only place FIFA is seen as corrupt is UEFA plus a few other countries. The vast majority however views the corruption as normal or at least as a small evil compared to the success and wealth that Blatter has brought to FIFA.
How else can you explain 6/7 confederations backing Blatter.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Skynx
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Turkey7150 Posts
May 27 2015 10:56 GMT
#14573
I doubt that this is going to change much in the overall fifa structure.
"When seagulls follow the troller, it is because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea. Thank you very much" - King Cantona | STX 4 eva
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 10:58:38
May 27 2015 10:57 GMT
#14574
You do have to have proof about corruption, something similar happened here on Chile, some companies where found out giving money to politicians for their campaigns (in an obvious exchange for votes)... I mean EVERYONE knew about that happening since always, but you need the propper proof for it to be validated.

I mean, they will always get you, the greedier you get, the easier they will find out about you.

ESPECIALLY in this era of technology. I like how most think they are invincible yet they will fall, sooner or later.
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 27 2015 10:58 GMT
#14575
On May 27 2015 19:56 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 19:48 zeo wrote:
On May 27 2015 19:40 Faruko wrote:
I remember when Fifa ethics comittee said that there were no case of corruptions, which EVERYONE knew was bullshit (regarding the Qatar 2022 fiasco)

Im so happy

I think about every single poster in this thread would say there is corruption in FIFA. Maybe not everybody from Blatter down to the cleaning lady is corrupt but a fair few are. How is it possible that this could keep going for so long even with a unanimous consensus that the organization is rotten?

These people would not even have been arrested if they had used a bank outside of America.

There was a German article about this last weekend, the basis of it was that the only place FIFA is seen as corrupt is UEFA plus a few other countries. The vast majority however views the corruption as normal or at least as a small evil compared to the success and wealth that Blatter has brought to FIFA.
How else can you explain 6/7 confederations backing Blatter.


You can bribe confederations too you know ?
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2108 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 11:04:45
May 27 2015 11:00 GMT
#14576
i wish journalists would be more upfront with the press guy and just say it out loud how it is. the most baffling thing is that everything is sailing in a sea of piss in FIFA and they just keep going
~~Yo man ! MBCGame HERO Fighting !! Holy check !
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 27 2015 11:08 GMT
#14577
On May 27 2015 19:58 Faruko wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 19:56 sneirac wrote:
On May 27 2015 19:48 zeo wrote:
On May 27 2015 19:40 Faruko wrote:
I remember when Fifa ethics comittee said that there were no case of corruptions, which EVERYONE knew was bullshit (regarding the Qatar 2022 fiasco)

Im so happy

I think about every single poster in this thread would say there is corruption in FIFA. Maybe not everybody from Blatter down to the cleaning lady is corrupt but a fair few are. How is it possible that this could keep going for so long even with a unanimous consensus that the organization is rotten?

These people would not even have been arrested if they had used a bank outside of America.

There was a German article about this last weekend, the basis of it was that the only place FIFA is seen as corrupt is UEFA plus a few other countries. The vast majority however views the corruption as normal or at least as a small evil compared to the success and wealth that Blatter has brought to FIFA.
How else can you explain 6/7 confederations backing Blatter.


You can bribe confederations too you know ?

Yeah, that is part of what I meant to say. Everyone I am surrounded by (this forum, the press etc.) views FIFA as corrupt. The rest of the world doesn't, regardless of whether they view the corruption as minor or are corrupt themselves.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6303 Posts
May 27 2015 12:02 GMT
#14578
Swiss police arrested some of the most powerful figures in global soccer on Wednesday, announcing a criminal investigation into the awarding of the next two world cups and plunging the world's most popular sport into turmoil.

In addition to the Swiss criminal probe, at least six soccer officials and a number of sports media and promotions executives would face extradition to the United States to face corruption charges involving more than $100 million in bribes.

Those arrested did not include Sepp Blatter, the Swiss head of soccer's multi-billion dollar governing body FIFA, but included several of those just below him in the hierarchy of the wealthiest and most powerful sports body on earth.

The arrests by plain-clothes police were made at dawn at a plush Zurich hotel where FIFA officials are staying ahead of a vote this week where they have been expected to easily anoint Blatter for a fifth term in office.

Swiss prosecutors said they had opened criminal proceedings against unidentified individuals on suspicion of mismanagement and money laundering related to the awarding of rights to host the 2018 World Cup in Qatar and the 2022 World Cup in Russia.

Data and documents were seized from computers at FIFA's Zurich headquarters. A spokeswoman for FIFA declined to comment.

The Swiss Federal Office of Justice (FOJ) did not immediately identify which officials were arrested pending extradition to the United States, but media reports said they included Jeffrey Webb and Eugenio Figueredo, both FIFA vice-presidents.

The officials were suspected by U.S. investigators of having received or paid bribes totaling millions of dollars, the Swiss FOJ said, while the media and promotions executives were accused of paying the kickbacks.

"The US Attorney's Office for the Eastern District of New York is investigating these individuals on suspicion of the acceptance of bribes and kickbacks between the early 1990s and the present day," the statement said.

"The bribery suspects - representatives of sports media and sports promotion firms - are alleged to have been involved in schemes to make payments to the soccer functionaries - delegates of FIFA and other functionaries of FIFA sub-organizations - totaling more than US$100 million."

source
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6303 Posts
May 27 2015 12:03 GMT
#14579
So there are in fact two investigations going on. One by the Swiss about the world cups and one by the US about 100m$ in bribes.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
May 27 2015 12:05 GMT
#14580
On May 27 2015 21:03 RvB wrote:
So there are in fact two investigations going on. One by the Swiss about the world cups and one by the US about 100m$ in bribes.


yes, here is the list of the officials being investigated by the Swiss : Issa Hayatou (president of the Confederation of African Football), Angel Maria Villar Llona (Spain), Michel D’Hooghe (Belgium), Senes Erzik (Turkey), Worawi Makudi (Thailand), Marios Lefkaritis (Cyprus), Jacques Anouma (Ivory Coast), Rafael Salguero (Guatemala), Hany Abo Rida (Egypt) and Vitaly Mutko (Russia – head of the 2018 World Cup and sport’s minister).

source
Zest fanboy.
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