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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 26 2015 08:57 GMT
#14521
Let the discussions continue!

On the so-called “triple punishment”, the executive, following a proposal from the FIFA President, agreed that there would be no amendment to the Disciplinary Code for the time being.

Fifa executive PR release
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Micro_Jackson
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany2002 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 09:51:34
May 26 2015 09:50 GMT
#14522
On May 26 2015 17:25 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 01:15 Micro_Jackson wrote:
So according to German Media Klopp doesnt want a new job for at least half a year.

Is it just me or does this screem "yea guys i am on vacation until Pep won his CL and i can take the job". A storyline like Pep wins with the old guys to quit at the top and then rebuild the team with Klopp sounds kinda nice for Bayern.


Nope, I don't see Klopp doing that at all. Why should he? He is one of the hottest possible coaches in the world


I know i am running into a trap here with sharkie but whatever

Bayern could be a very interesting project in europe soon. Think about it this is basically still Van Gaals team at the base, neither Heynkes nor Pep really changed the core concepts. After Pep the era of Lahm/Schweinsteiger/Robben/Ribery as the core players will also end. If rebuilding a team with a shitload of money isnt interesting for a coach what is?

The only realistic destinations in Germany are Bayern or Red Bull Leipzig if they make it to the first Bundesliga in time, which will be very weird for every Bayern fan because if they make it Bayern wont be the most hated club in Germany.

It just fits very well in my opinion. Bayern didnt "buy" him so there will be no new Götze and i think they prefer to have a German coach again (that list is very small). Klopp could stay in germany, coach a top 3 team with a stable management and create a new juggernaut.
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 26 2015 10:01 GMT
#14523
I hate FIFA these days

Also adding into the Ancelotti saga i think maybe its a bit harsh, but remember he won La Decima with by far the best squad in Europe or at least best 11 last season. This season they went on a record breaking run right, weren't they like several points ahead before they went off to the FIFA world club cup to then come back and throw it all away and look pretty average?
Players ALWAYS like Ancelotti as a manager because he doesn't lose his temper, he is a motivator by being friends with the squad. I think anyone would struggle to find a player who didn't like Ancelotti as a manager. To laid back for me and this is Real Madrid the biggest club in the world.

Can't wait to see what Benitez does with the job! He will finally be back home in Spain and managing a club like that with endless talent and money. His rotation policy is also perfect for the squad size and his tactical prowess should make games vs Barca exceptional! Wonder what he will do with Bale and Ronaldo too!


Continuing on from some of my quotes re relegation teams next season.
You have to add in the fact with Bournemouth this owner hasn't exactly pumped money into it and i see them taking the Burnley approach, the players linked with them are the likes of Lambert etc and some Burnley players in fact. I can't see them spending much more than 30million in total which is nothing in premier league terms. Leicester don't forget started terrible and managed to find some sort of form at the back back end of the season to survive they will need to improve immensely consistency wise. Watford also in same weak financial state to see themselves in need of a miracle to survive. Add in Norwich always get relegated and are pretty much Hull City 2.0, they spend money but so f'n badly its a laugh. Last time they got promoted they bought 4 Leeds players who were mid table in championship lol.
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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 11:05:26
May 26 2015 11:02 GMT
#14524
On May 26 2015 19:01 Pandemona wrote:
[...]
Continuing on from some of my quotes re relegation teams next season.
You have to add in the fact with Bournemouth this owner hasn't exactly pumped money into it and i see them taking the Burnley approach, the players linked with them are the likes of Lambert etc and some Burnley players in fact. I can't see them spending much more than 30million in total which is nothing in premier league terms. Leicester don't forget started terrible and managed to find some sort of form at the back back end of the season to survive they will need to improve immensely consistency wise. Watford also in same weak financial state to see themselves in need of a miracle to survive. Add in Norwich always get relegated and are pretty much Hull City 2.0, they spend money but so f'n badly its a laugh. Last time they got promoted they bought 4 Leeds players who were mid table in championship lol.

Well, you have to be careful when trying to survive in the Prem. Burnley didn't spend a whole lot, and they'll comfortably go down and make a push for promotion. QPR on the other hand might be slammed with huge fines. Fine balance.

Bournemouth did actually spend a lot back in their League 1 days (compared to their earlier expenditure) and probably have the money to nab some good players. I think they want to keep the core of their team strong and have that solidarity that's apparent when you see videos of the lot. That team-spirit can take you a long way.

(And look at that: They've signed Boruc permanently after he was released by Saints.)

It appears that you've forgotten that Leicester played excellent football in the beginning of the season and almost knocked you and us off (took a point off us, and thoroughly threatened against you), and had 8 points after 5 games. The collapse came later as they ran out of gas and had no luck with their finishing. When I saw that Leicester team play football in the beginning of the season, I said with great certainty that they weren't going to go down. It didn't work out how I thought it would, but they made it to safety again. People knew Leicester were good, they just showed it when it mattered towards the end again.

Can't say I'm very knowledgeable about Watford and Norwich, except that Norwich have a young manager and usually play good football when I watch. Norwich did survive two seasons last time, I think, so there's that.


Can't wait to have Benitez win the league at Real after people shit-talking him.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8718 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 11:44:56
May 26 2015 11:43 GMT
#14525
On May 26 2015 15:54 smr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 13:35 evilfatsh1t wrote:
i dont understand how there arent riots happening within the madrid fanbase or management. i wouldnt give a shit if he was the president of the earth, when theres a retard at the top you kick him the fuck out

On May 26 2015 01:15 Micro_Jackson wrote:
So according to German Media Klopp doesnt want a new job for at least half a year.

Is it just me or does this screem "yea guys i am on vacation until Pep won his CL and i can take the job". A storyline like Pep wins with the old guys to quit at the top and then rebuild the team with Klopp sounds kinda nice for Bayern.

i wouldnt be surprised if hes waiting on lvg to retire so he can get a chance at man utd. atm theres no club that really fits his profile, and i dont think hed want to go to bayern when hes so loved by dortmund fans. giggs isnt ready yet anyway

Do you expect lvg to retire that soon? I find the scenario of sabbatical -> Bayern 2016 a lot more likely.
Maybe sabbatical -> German national coach 2016 but I doubt Klopp wants to meet his team every 2 months at best. Liverpool still seems like a possible move to me. There is just no cl-club in need of a coach (okay city) so his options aren't the best this summer.

lvgs contract ends 2017 and im pretty sure ive heard somewhere that man utd will be his last team. hes getting pretty old now so i dont expect him to extend the contract and he has already talked of giggs succeeding him.
2 years is a long break i guess but im not saying all this is very likely, just that i know klopp is interested in epl and man utd would be at the top of his list out of potential clubs to manage
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
May 26 2015 11:50 GMT
#14526
Didn't Klopp make it pretty clear that he didn't want to take a break?
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 15:48:31
May 26 2015 11:59 GMT
#14527
One thing I will say about Benitez is his problem seems to be that he can only be successful if a club has money. Real Madrid definitely have money so it wouldn't be entirely surprising if he wasn’t completely useless at Real Madrid.

Only been successful when you have money sounds really derogatory and I guess it is. But it's not easy to spend money successfully in football. My previous post in this thread was lamenting Man City, Spurs and Liverpool’s awful spending and buying of multiple useless players for +£20million a pop.

Only been successful when you have money is definitely not great. But knowing what to do with the money when you have it is a skill in its self.

I guess we will have to wait and see what happens.



On an entirely different note Portsmouth in League 2 have been entirely debt free now for almost a year and are still going no where despite by far the biggest attendance and turnover in the league. The fans there have been very patient with the club stabilising and working down it’s debt over the last few years. They have kept coming in their tens of thousands to show their support. But they will start getting pissed off if Portsmouth don’t start showing some ambition to at least get out of League 2.

Exeter get another derby game with the promotion of Bristol Rovers back into the football League. The South West clubs seem to collect at the bottom of the football league. I think we're all back in league 2 except Torquay and of course the slightly more ambitious Bristol City.

Also why are Leipzig hated? Red Bull money?
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
May 26 2015 12:16 GMT
#14528
Well, it was founded (only six years ago) and is funded by RB-money, so it's not hard to see why it's hated.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 26 2015 12:25 GMT
#14529
German teams are fan owned (50 + 1 rule), the only exceptions to that were Wolfsburg (VW) and Leverkusen (Bayer). Now that rule is being eroded because of pressure from three clubs (Hanover, Hoffenheim and Leipzig).
And while Hoffenheim is already disliked, it is at least still a real club with traditions and history, instead of just being a commercial opportunity. The idiocy of inventing a new prefix RasenBall (LawnBall) in order to get the RB is a brilliant example.
And as NuclearJudas said, they were founded recently, but instead of starting at the bottom they just bought the licence of a pre existing club and threw its history, name and colours out of the window.

See also what they did with Austria Salzburg.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
May 26 2015 12:30 GMT
#14530
On May 26 2015 21:25 sneirac wrote:
German teams are fan owned (50 + 1 rule), the only exceptions to that were Wolfsburg (VW) and Leverkusen (Bayer). Now that rule is being eroded because of pressure from three clubs (Hanover, Hoffenheim and Leipzig).
And while Hoffenheim is already disliked, it is at least still a real club with traditions and history, instead of just being a commercial opportunity. The idiocy of inventing a new prefix RasenBall (LawnBall) in order to get the RB is a brilliant example.
And as NuclearJudas said, they were founded recently, but instead of starting at the bottom they just bought the licence of a pre existing club and threw its history, name and colours out of the window.

See also what they did with Austria Salzburg.

Oh right they are the Milton Keynes Dons of Germany I get it. AFC Wimbledon proved you can start a new club and work the way up the leagues. Buying an existing club and destorying it is so fucked up only a buisness man could think it's a good idea.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51487 Posts
May 26 2015 12:34 GMT
#14531
Speaking of Germany, Di Matteo resigns from Schalke after failing to make CL.
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Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-26 13:04:53
May 26 2015 12:43 GMT
#14532
RB Leipzig is not a likely destination for Klopp, they are not even in the 1.Bundesliga yet and far from becoming a top3 club.

They are also the only club from Eastern Germany likely to get into the 1.Bundesliga at all, so I wish them all the best.

The downfall of Eastern clubs since 1990 due to the lack of economic competitiveness was just sad. VfB Leipzig, the first German champion, became bankrupt in 2004 and doesn't exist anymore. Leipzig has more football history than most towns in Germany! If Red Bull is needed to get top football back to Leipzig, then so be it.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6298 Posts
May 26 2015 13:54 GMT
#14533
Benitez? Hope Real fans like playing in the Euro Cup
"If only Kircheis were here" - Everyone
Rebs
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Pakistan10726 Posts
May 26 2015 15:56 GMT
#14534
On May 26 2015 20:59 Greg_J wrote:
One thing I will say about Benitez is his problem seems to be that he can only be successful if a club has money. Real Madrid definitely have money so it wouldn't be entirely surprising if he wasn’t completely useless at Real Madrid.

Only been successful when you have money sounds really derogatory and I guess it is. But it's not easy to spend money successfully in football. My previous post in this thread was lamenting Man City, Spurs and Liverpool’s awful spending and buying of multiple useless players for +£20million a pop.

Only been successful when you have money is definitely not great. But knowing what to do with the money when you have it is a skill in its self.


Well his success at Valencia had nothing to do with money. He pretty much left because they didnt give him any money. He did have a strong existing squad to play with though. Cupers team made back to back CL finals when he got it,
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
May 26 2015 17:09 GMT
#14535


Let the West Ham relegation begin.
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Copymizer
Profile Joined November 2010
Denmark2094 Posts
May 26 2015 20:53 GMT
#14536
Am i the only one who doesn't like barcelonas new kit of horizontal stripes instead of vertical :/
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 26 2015 21:55 GMT
#14537
We celtic now.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
May 26 2015 22:42 GMT
#14538
On May 27 2015 05:53 Copymizer wrote:
Am i the only one who doesn't like barcelonas new kit of horizontal stripes instead of vertical :/
Nope.
Vertical was way better imo.
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 03:38:16
May 27 2015 03:37 GMT
#14539
On May 27 2015 00:56 Rebs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2015 20:59 Greg_J wrote:
One thing I will say about Benitez is his problem seems to be that he can only be successful if a club has money. Real Madrid definitely have money so it wouldn't be entirely surprising if he wasn’t completely useless at Real Madrid.

Only been successful when you have money sounds really derogatory and I guess it is. But it's not easy to spend money successfully in football. My previous post in this thread was lamenting Man City, Spurs and Liverpool’s awful spending and buying of multiple useless players for +£20million a pop.

Only been successful when you have money is definitely not great. But knowing what to do with the money when you have it is a skill in its self.


Well his success at Valencia had nothing to do with money. He pretty much left because they didnt give him any money. He did have a strong existing squad to play with though. Cupers team made back to back CL finals when he got it,

To be honest that's a bit before my time. I didn't really follow football back then and certainly not Spanish football (I'm still not very knowledgeable about Spanish football). It doesn't sound like a great argument though. Rafael Benítez is a good manager because despite a decade of been awful everywhere he goes he once had a successful season ten years ago. That's like saying Felix Magath is a good manager because he once had a good season with Stuttgart.
ZapRoffo
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5544 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 04:14:09
May 27 2015 04:13 GMT
#14540
On May 26 2015 17:57 sneirac wrote:
Let the discussions continue!

Show nested quote +
On the so-called “triple punishment”, the executive, following a proposal from the FIFA President, agreed that there would be no amendment to the Disciplinary Code for the time being.

Fifa executive PR release


Whoa, hold up on this event!

More than 10 FIFA officials arrested, to be extradited to the US on federal corruption charges.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/sports/soccer/fifa-officials-face-corruption-charges-in-us.html?smid==tw-nytsports

"As leaders of FIFA, soccer’s global governing body, gathered for their annual meeting, Swiss law enforcement officials arrived unannounced at the Baur au Lac hotel, an elegant five-star property with views of the Alps and Lake Zurich. The arrests were made at the request of the United States Justice Department, which brought charges in the Eastern District of New York, based in Brooklyn, according to law enforcement officials.

Prosecutors planned to unseal an indictment soon against more than 10 officials, not all of whom are in Zurich, three law enforcement officials said. The charges include wire fraud, racketeering and money laundering."
Yeah, well, you know, that's just like, your opinion man
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