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sneirac
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany3464 Posts
May 27 2015 15:53 GMT
#14601
On May 28 2015 00:46 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 27 2015 22:30 Ferrose wrote:
On May 27 2015 16:56 Greg_J wrote:
I'm sure Sepp Blatter will make sure anyone likely to vote for him who is currently in jail will still be aloud to vote for him somehow.


Plot twist: the only people getting thrown in jail are the ones that didn't support Blatter in the first place.


Since Blatter himself wasn't arrested this is pretty much a given no?
Blatter would never allow his supporters get arrested.

One of the arrested is Jeffrey Webb, according to multiple stories a close confidant of Blatter and his designated successor.
possession wins games, kante is washed up and shit - pande
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
May 27 2015 16:00 GMT
#14602
On May 28 2015 00:53 sneirac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 00:46 sharkie wrote:
On May 27 2015 22:30 Ferrose wrote:
On May 27 2015 16:56 Greg_J wrote:
I'm sure Sepp Blatter will make sure anyone likely to vote for him who is currently in jail will still be aloud to vote for him somehow.


Plot twist: the only people getting thrown in jail are the ones that didn't support Blatter in the first place.


Since Blatter himself wasn't arrested this is pretty much a given no?
Blatter would never allow his supporters get arrested.

One of the arrested is Jeffrey Webb, according to multiple stories a close confidant of Blatter and his designated successor.


The Americas outside of the US had pledged support to Blatter in the election so this is mostly impacting his friends and backers. Webb surely has something on Blatter and in fact Jack Warner claimed in 2011 that he was innocent but that he had documentation of corruption at the top. Too bad Warner won't get extradited.

RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6322 Posts
May 27 2015 16:01 GMT
#14603
On May 28 2015 00:17 Pandemona wrote:
They cant touch a world organization can they? Surely not if it has nothing to do with America? I guess im completely out of touch with the world if America can go, wait what some corrupt dealings going on in the English FA, ok we're shutting you down? (this is taking it to the extreme of course)

They have an office in the US.

The US has been going after international organizations for a long time just look at all the banks that are settling for billions. Those are a lot bigger than Fifa will ever be.
UdderChaos
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United Kingdom707 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 16:22:23
May 27 2015 16:21 GMT
#14604
On May 28 2015 01:01 RvB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2015 00:17 Pandemona wrote:
They cant touch a world organization can they? Surely not if it has nothing to do with America? I guess im completely out of touch with the world if America can go, wait what some corrupt dealings going on in the English FA, ok we're shutting you down? (this is taking it to the extreme of course)

They have an office in the US.

The US has been going after international organizations for a long time just look at all the banks that are settling for billions. Those are a lot bigger than Fifa will ever be.


They also laundered a lot of the money through the US, plus a lot of the sports/marketing companies that were direct facilitators of the money laundering are US companies as I understand it, apparently Nike may be involved too.
Nunquam iens addo vos sursum
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34173 Posts
May 27 2015 16:38 GMT
#14605
Wow, 20 million dollars were paid for the Copa America Chile 2015.

shit is going wild !
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4177 Posts
May 27 2015 16:43 GMT
#14606
am i the only one upset/mad about the US and a US court doing shit with FIFA? WTF Fifa is not even based out of the US, the US is a poor country in regards to futbol culture, why the fuck is the US getting involved? unless money was laundered on US soil with US banks or some shit like that. or am I ignorant and Fifa is regulated by US law and needs to abby by US courts? WTF

also WTF by Swish politician by agreeing with the arrest, and if they extradite them?

this gets me very upset! thats why I left USA and moved to colombia, wth.. (might be personal bias since the us comes to colombia and arrest whoever they please and I hate my goverment for allowing so)
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18749 Posts
May 27 2015 16:46 GMT
#14607
On May 28 2015 01:43 mAKiTO wrote:
am i the only one upset/mad about the US and a US court doing shit with FIFA? WTF Fifa is not even based out of the US, the US is a poor country in regards to futbol culture, why the fuck is the US getting involved? unless money was laundered on US soil with US banks or some shit like that. or am I ignorant and Fifa is regulated by US law and needs to abby by US courts? WTF

also WTF by Swish politician by agreeing with the arrest, and if they extradite them?

this gets me very upset! thats why I left USA and moved to colombia, wth.. (might be personal bias since the us comes to colombia and arrest whoever they please and I hate my goverment for allowing so)


Oh this is very infuriating of course. But it has come to a point that I am going to allow anything for a chance to have FIFA get cleaned up :/

The lesser evil you know
mAKiTO
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Colombia4177 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 16:56:13
May 27 2015 16:53 GMT
#14608
Fifa will never be cleaned up, its a private "association" where federation decide to join or not, its not a public government run entities which has to follow certain rules or give accountability to the public. Like I understand its gotten so big is a monopoly and we might not agree with many decisions they make, but why should they cater to us? we decide to watch the world cups, etc no one forces us.

You have to understand that where big bucks are to be made corruption always will exist. commissions always got to be paid, because when you are in top rank position where you can make a multi million dollar decision of course you want some compensation, who wouldn't? that's just how life works

I mean unless they are doing some type of shit like injecting drug cartel money and legalizing it or terrorist money then ok arrest people. but make it happen in the country where the crime was committed not in fucking US court. I hate that they act like they have world jurisdiction to dictate law

edit: for clarification I do agree fifa is waaay over corrupted and something has to happen in order to get it a little less corrupted, but its always going to work like that. If I owned fifa or shares in fifa yes, I would care about the sport, but really I would care more about my own pocket as well
No quiero soñar mil veces las mismas cosas
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
May 27 2015 16:55 GMT
#14609
On May 28 2015 01:43 mAKiTO wrote:
am i the only one upset/mad about the US and a US court doing shit with FIFA? WTF Fifa is not even based out of the US, the US is a poor country in regards to futbol culture, why the fuck is the US getting involved? unless money was laundered on US soil with US banks or some shit like that. or am I ignorant and Fifa is regulated by US law and needs to abby by US courts? WTF

also WTF by Swish politician by agreeing with the arrest, and if they extradite them?

this gets me very upset! thats why I left USA and moved to colombia, wth.. (might be personal bias since the us comes to colombia and arrest whoever they please and I hate my goverment for allowing so)


Payback for getting Group of Death draws and then sent cris-crossing all over Brazil with 1-2 days less rest.
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
May 27 2015 16:59 GMT
#14610
On May 28 2015 01:43 mAKiTO wrote:
am i the only one upset/mad about the US and a US court doing shit with FIFA? WTF Fifa is not even based out of the US, the US is a poor country in regards to futbol culture, why the fuck is the US getting involved? unless money was laundered on US soil with US banks or some shit like that. or am I ignorant and Fifa is regulated by US law and needs to abby by US courts? WTF

also WTF by Swish politician by agreeing with the arrest, and if they extradite them?

this gets me very upset! thats why I left USA and moved to colombia, wth.. (might be personal bias since the us comes to colombia and arrest whoever they please and I hate my goverment for allowing so)


money was laundered on US soil
money was laundered through US banks
Gold Cup was in the US and 2/3s of its operating expense was documented as bribes (wth stupid?!)
US companies lost money through FIFA fraud
FIFA does have to abide by US laws as they have the concacaf offices in the US so their regional branch is in the US.


HOWEVER

Switzerland raided FIFA headquarters and is pursuing criminal charges against FIFA (located in Switzerland) for crimes revolving around the 2018 and 2022 World Cup votes.

ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 17:18:27
May 27 2015 17:12 GMT
#14611
The Swiss are involved as well, what does it really matter if the US files charges as well? Sure most people here don't tend to give two shits about the game save for when the World Cup rolls around, but adding pressure can't hurt.

Beyond the, "we don't care about football," bit if US law was violated, the FBI gets to do what it wants. Kind of a tough shit situation.

Not saying the Swiss can't get shit done, but both countries working together really can't hurt.
fbs
Profile Joined February 2003
United Kingdom2476 Posts
May 27 2015 17:23 GMT
#14612
I'm very happy to have the help of US law enforcement in outing the Fifa scum. The FA seem to be the only organisation attacking Fifa and that imbecile Blatter prior to the US involvement.
Kleinmuuhg
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Vanuatu4091 Posts
May 27 2015 17:25 GMT
#14613
one of the few cases i am glad about US "global police" intervention
thanks pals!
This is our town, scrub
RCMDVA
Profile Joined July 2011
United States708 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-27 17:34:35
May 27 2015 17:30 GMT
#14614
164 page full text of the indictments

http://images.businessweek.com/bloomberg/pdfs/FIFAindictment.pdf
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 27 2015 17:36 GMT
#14615
On May 28 2015 02:25 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
one of the few cases i am glad about US "global police" intervention
thanks pals!

Well it is the FBI so technically it is just the US division of Global Police, but regardless.

Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
May 27 2015 17:49 GMT
#14616
On May 28 2015 01:43 mAKiTO wrote:
am i the only one upset/mad about the US and a US court doing shit with FIFA? WTF Fifa is not even based out of the US, the US is a poor country in regards to futbol culture, why the fuck is the US getting involved? unless money was laundered on US soil with US banks or some shit like that. or am I ignorant and Fifa is regulated by US law and needs to abby by US courts? WTF

also WTF by Swish politician by agreeing with the arrest, and if they extradite them?

this gets me very upset! thats why I left USA and moved to colombia, wth.. (might be personal bias since the us comes to colombia and arrest whoever they please and I hate my goverment for allowing so)


The whole thing involved crimes that were committed in the U.S., therefore the U.S. has legal authority to go after the case.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
May 27 2015 18:05 GMT
#14617
From the Telegraph's live feed
MORE BREAKING NEWS - Sky are claiming that police have told ALL Swiss nationals working for Fifa - and that'll include Sepp Blatter - that they cannot leave the country!
ThomasjServo
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
15244 Posts
May 27 2015 18:19 GMT
#14618
On May 28 2015 03:05 Eliezar wrote:
From the Telegraph's live feed
MORE BREAKING NEWS - Sky are claiming that police have told ALL Swiss nationals working for Fifa - and that'll include Sepp Blatter - that they cannot leave the country!

Rut roh.
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
May 27 2015 18:24 GMT
#14619
This one is good. Very good.

Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
Eliezar
Profile Joined May 2004
United States481 Posts
May 27 2015 18:28 GMT
#14620
On May 28 2015 02:12 ThomasjServo wrote:
The Swiss are involved as well, what does it really matter if the US files charges as well? Sure most people here don't tend to give two shits about the game save for when the World Cup rolls around, but adding pressure can't hurt.

Beyond the, "we don't care about football," bit if US law was violated, the FBI gets to do what it wants. Kind of a tough shit situation.

Not saying the Swiss can't get shit done, but both countries working together really can't hurt.


Its an American cultural lie that Americans don't care about Futbol.

The most popular sports team in the United States as far as merchandise sales was the Mexican National Team by a lot when the numbers for (I think) 2012 were published...I just tried finding it online but I can't seem to locate it.

There is an old boy network that likes to act like America is all about baseball and hates soccer, but if I remember at least 3 of the top 20 merch "teams" teams were futbol teams (I think it was Man U, Mexico and then either Barca or Real)...also there were several college football teams in the list as well.

Its also just more in the open now. Its possible to follow the game while living in the US now...I can watch the EPL or MLS or MFL and the Champions League now...in the 80s I could read about them in Soccer America, in the 90s I could read about them in the news paper and see some stuff on Univision, but now its available to be consumed.
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