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Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 05 2014 13:50 GMT
#5161
On October 05 2014 22:47 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 22:46 bObaZ wrote:
The problem is that if he showed a yellow to chambers he should of showed a red to Cahill. The difference between the two fouls is immense.


They're two entirely different offenses that you cannot compare. Cahill committed a regular foul, Chambers committed a tactical one.


The solution is to send off Gibbs
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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
October 05 2014 13:50 GMT
#5162
https://vine.co/v/OKhFVvJ1UYW

Tension between Mou and Wenger earlier.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 05 2014 13:51 GMT
#5163
Yeah... that's nowhere near intentional.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
October 05 2014 13:52 GMT
#5164
On October 05 2014 22:48 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 22:48 lprk wrote:
On October 05 2014 22:45 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 05 2014 22:43 lprk wrote:
On October 05 2014 22:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 05 2014 22:42 lprk wrote:
On October 05 2014 22:41 NuclearJudas wrote:
Very ugly tackle.

Surprised he didn't send any manager off to the stands for that.

I'm more surprised that he didn't sent off Cahill


Are you serious... it was a yellow, nothing more.

It was 2 leg tackle with both leg in the air


No it was not, he missed the ball with his challenge (which was a reckless one), slipped and crashed into Alexis, that's why he had both feet in the air.

On October 05 2014 22:44 ZeroChrome wrote:
If chambers gets a yellow for tripping hazard then Cahill's dirty two footed lunge ought to be a straight red


Different offenses. Chambers committed a tactical foul, which is an automatic yellow.

If that was only yellow, Koscielny didn't fouled Hazard at all.


Alright, let's leave it at that.

Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 22:48 bObaZ wrote:
On October 05 2014 22:47 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 05 2014 22:46 bObaZ wrote:
The problem is that if he showed a yellow to chambers he should of showed a red to Cahill. The difference between the two fouls is immense.


They're two entirely different offenses that you cannot compare. Cahill committed a regular foul, Chambers committed a tactical one.


The foul that Cahill Commited had nothing of regular! He went straight for the player!


Different meaning of "regular".


Regular meaning regular and then regular meaning career threatening ok i get it
Forward
bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
October 05 2014 13:53 GMT
#5165
On October 05 2014 22:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Yeah... that's nowhere near intentional.


Nowhere near intentional?? Are you just trolling? You can't even say that he went for the ball but the ball wasn't there anymore. The ball was there but he opted to tackle alexis instead! It's a clear red as it gets...
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 13:54:38
October 05 2014 13:54 GMT
#5166
On October 05 2014 22:53 bObaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 22:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Yeah... that's nowhere near intentional.


Nowhere near intentional?? Are you just trolling? You can't even say that he went for the ball but the ball wasn't there anymore. The ball was there but he opted to tackle alexis instead! It's a clear red as it gets...


LOL, he missed the ball. That's all there is to it. The game isn't played in replay speed and anyone who's played football will tell you the same.

It ended up being a dreadful challenge, but that is not a red card.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 05 2014 13:54 GMT
#5167
On October 05 2014 22:49 NuclearJudas wrote:
Fucking damn it, Kosc... Why do you make so many stupid tackles like that? Can't fault Hazard for going down there, as it's just invited.

And I'm of the opinion now that Cahill should have been sent off. Look at the tackle.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/AB507097C21130542002627575808_212ad566fd9.5.1.7195489688785602737.mp4?versionId=N5oV3t52tHtl2xNFWDL3DPVgHe.FnXcK

The ball's right there, but he studs Alexis instead. I love Cahill, but that's a disgraceful tackle.


Hmm I think it doesn't look like there's intent to do harm - it looks like an accident. And since it's only one footed, I think a red is harsh there.
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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 13:55:08
October 05 2014 13:54 GMT
#5168
On October 05 2014 22:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 22:53 bObaZ wrote:
On October 05 2014 22:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Yeah... that's nowhere near intentional.


Nowhere near intentional?? Are you just trolling? You can't even say that he went for the ball but the ball wasn't there anymore. The ball was there but he opted to tackle alexis instead! It's a clear red as it gets...


LOL, he missed the ball. That's all there is to it. The game isn't played in replay speed and anyone who's played football will tell you the same.


Anyone that played football knows that he went straight for the player and didn't even try to get the ball...

But i guess we'll agree to disagree
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 05 2014 13:55 GMT
#5169
On October 05 2014 22:54 bObaZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 22:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On October 05 2014 22:53 bObaZ wrote:
On October 05 2014 22:51 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Yeah... that's nowhere near intentional.


Nowhere near intentional?? Are you just trolling? You can't even say that he went for the ball but the ball wasn't there anymore. The ball was there but he opted to tackle alexis instead! It's a clear red as it gets...


LOL, he missed the ball. That's all there is to it. The game isn't played in replay speed and anyone who's played football will tell you the same.


Anyone that played football knows that he went straight for the player and didn't even try to get the ball...


Alright, let's leave it at that. Stop arguing.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
malcram
Profile Joined November 2010
2752 Posts
October 05 2014 13:55 GMT
#5170
you can always say he might have mistimed it and missed the ball. c'mon, we are all bias here. yellow is the right card.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
October 05 2014 13:57 GMT
#5171
Entertaining first half between Spurs and Soton. Bertrand possibly should have been sent off for a bad challenge on Naughton (Naughton had to come off).
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 05 2014 13:58 GMT
#5172
On October 05 2014 22:54 Larkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 22:49 NuclearJudas wrote:
Fucking damn it, Kosc... Why do you make so many stupid tackles like that? Can't fault Hazard for going down there, as it's just invited.

And I'm of the opinion now that Cahill should have been sent off. Look at the tackle.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/AB507097C21130542002627575808_212ad566fd9.5.1.7195489688785602737.mp4?versionId=N5oV3t52tHtl2xNFWDL3DPVgHe.FnXcK

The ball's right there, but he studs Alexis instead. I love Cahill, but that's a disgraceful tackle.


Hmm I think it doesn't look like there's intent to do harm - it looks like an accident. And since it's only one footed, I think a red is harsh there.

Saying we should judge everything on intent is just straight up wrong. Obviously Cahill doesn't want to hurt Alexis. But it's a straightened leg with all of Cahill's weight (so 80-90 kg?) behind it. Alexis' ankle would have quite possibly snapped under that. It's a clear red. That said, I can see that being hard for the ref to adjudge and why it's been given a yellow.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 05 2014 13:58 GMT
#5173
Ouch
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bObaZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
Portugal864 Posts
October 05 2014 13:59 GMT
#5174
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 14:00:30
October 05 2014 14:00 GMT
#5175
If anything, we could look into Koscielny denying a clear goal scoring opportunity. THAT is a red.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 05 2014 14:01 GMT
#5176
On October 05 2014 22:58 NuclearJudas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2014 22:54 Larkin wrote:
On October 05 2014 22:49 NuclearJudas wrote:
Fucking damn it, Kosc... Why do you make so many stupid tackles like that? Can't fault Hazard for going down there, as it's just invited.

And I'm of the opinion now that Cahill should have been sent off. Look at the tackle.

https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/AB507097C21130542002627575808_212ad566fd9.5.1.7195489688785602737.mp4?versionId=N5oV3t52tHtl2xNFWDL3DPVgHe.FnXcK

The ball's right there, but he studs Alexis instead. I love Cahill, but that's a disgraceful tackle.


Hmm I think it doesn't look like there's intent to do harm - it looks like an accident. And since it's only one footed, I think a red is harsh there.

Saying we should judge everything on intent is just straight up wrong. Obviously Cahill doesn't want to hurt Alexis. But it's a straightened leg with all of Cahill's weight (so 80-90 kg?) behind it. Alexis' ankle would have quite possibly snapped under that. It's a clear red. That said, I can see that being hard for the ref to adjudge and why it's been given a yellow.


I didn't say we SHOULD judge everything on intent.

But maliciousness is a factor - it's in the rules - for determining whether something is a red card or not.

It isn't a clear red because it very obviously looks like a mistimed tackle, missing the ball, rather than a deliberate attempt to do Alexis in. What Cahill meant only he knows - but to the referee, in a split second decision, it doesn't look malicious enough to warrant a red card.
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NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
October 05 2014 14:03 GMT
#5177
Got a slo-mo .gif of Hazard going down? First look at regular speed, it looks like Kosc should be sent off, but it's hard to see if Hazard would have gotten a good shot off.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-05 14:07:50
October 05 2014 14:03 GMT
#5178
I think Jose would rek Wenger in a fight. I mean they are both old but Mou is 13 years younger.

edit: yeah age wouldn't make a difference if wenger had formal training but idk, he is taller but jose could just poke him in the eye.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
October 05 2014 14:05 GMT
#5179
Chambers needs to be careful or he'll be off next time
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Larkin
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United Kingdom7161 Posts
October 05 2014 14:05 GMT
#5180
Chambers is lucky there, one of those 'if he wasn't already booked, it'd be a yellow'
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