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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
August 09 2014 00:25 GMT
#1581
On August 09 2014 08:41 Ace wrote:
Poor Young. He really needs to go to a playoff team :/


Seriously. That guy has built up a lot of good karma for behaving so well through this tear down. I hope he goes somewhere he can play meaningful basketball :/
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XaI)CyRiC
Profile Joined October 2002
United States4471 Posts
August 09 2014 00:26 GMT
#1582
On August 09 2014 08:16 cLutZ wrote:
So when does Philly trade for Kendrick Perkins?


What would be the current equivalent of such a move? Signing JO and then giving him an overpriced contract for 4 years?
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 09 2014 00:32 GMT
#1583
On August 09 2014 08:16 cLutZ wrote:
So when does Philly trade for Kendrick Perkins?

When they can get 1-2 second round picks along with him
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 09 2014 00:38 GMT
#1584
On August 09 2014 09:26 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 08:16 cLutZ wrote:
So when does Philly trade for Kendrick Perkins?


What would be the current equivalent of such a move? Signing JO and then giving him an overpriced contract for 4 years?


I think it would be like trading for Mario Chalmers (Huge part of those Miami teams AMIRITE!??!!!111) then extending him 4 years 35 million.
Freeeeeeedom
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
August 09 2014 02:01 GMT
#1585
Ron Artest changes his name once again to "The Pandas Friend" LOL

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2155245-metta-world-peace-reportedly-changing-chinese-name-to-panda-friend
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
LuMiX
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
China5758 Posts
August 09 2014 02:11 GMT
#1586
good name, who doesn't love pandas? :D
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
August 09 2014 04:19 GMT
#1587
On August 09 2014 09:26 XaI)CyRiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 09 2014 08:16 cLutZ wrote:
So when does Philly trade for Kendrick Perkins?


What would be the current equivalent of such a move? Signing JO and then giving him an overpriced contract for 4 years?

Going after Hibbert?
Yhamm is the god of predictions
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
August 09 2014 15:43 GMT
#1588
Cavs are gonna so deadly. Should be fun. I didn't realize Waiters was that good at catch-and-shoot jumpers either.
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
August 09 2014 20:08 GMT
#1589
--- Nuked ---
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 09 2014 21:05 GMT
#1590
I think Silver predicted 65 wins for the Cavs. If they get 65 wins, then the Heat were major sandbaggers because they only got there once with the help of an embarrassingly easy schedule. The Cavs were #23 in DRtgA last year. They're going to need to get that up into the top 10 I think if they want to get 55 wins or so.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 21:34:00
August 09 2014 21:30 GMT
#1591
Which they can. They should dominate in at least defensive rebounding(varajeo, Love) and turnover % (varajeo, Waiters, Lebron). They'll probably be in the middle of the pack-above average because teams should be getting high% buckets against them short of Waiters becoming a defensive juggernaut. Funny enough they'll almost be the inverse of Miami's offense on defense: Great at many things but historically bad at 1 but still devastating enough to leverage it vs everyone else.

ETA: Then again not all factors are weighted equally. It will be interesting to see how a team that gives up high % buckets but limits those attempts and doesn't foul a lot fares vs elite ball handlers. Rose, Rondo, Lowry, even Wall might actually torch this team. Can't wait to see this match up.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
August 09 2014 22:19 GMT
#1592
On August 10 2014 06:30 Ace wrote:
Rose, Rondo, Lowry, even Wall might actually torch this team. Can't wait to see this match up.

First thing I thought of when I heard the Love trade was going down. I think this team will be super exciting, and I see 120-119 games being quite normal for them, and that's a good thing as a fan.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
zev318
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada4306 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-08-09 22:31:39
August 09 2014 22:31 GMT
#1593
On August 10 2014 06:05 Jerubaal wrote:
I think Silver predicted 65 wins for the Cavs. If they get 65 wins, then the Heat were major sandbaggers because they only got there once with the help of an embarrassingly easy schedule. The Cavs were #23 in DRtgA last year. They're going to need to get that up into the top 10 I think if they want to get 55 wins or so.


lol 65. if you believe that the cavs will get 65 wins, you can also probably write them in to win the NBA championship too. of the 16 team in NBA history to win 65+ games, 13 went on to win it all. 2 of the 3 losses came recently tho, the mavs 06-07, and the lebron cavs 08-09.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 09 2014 23:22 GMT
#1594
Found the transcript on another forum. Apparently the link doesn't work anymore to here: http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/news/2014/jul/09/williams-betrayal/

Maybe this is fake then? If not this is kinda lol sad

Maurice "Mo" Williams is quick to remind me the wounds that take the longest to heal are rarely physical. "I've been under the knife, had contusions, could barely walk on my ankle..." His voice trails off, and he takes another bite of his lunch, then stares across the cafeteria at Murrah High School, into another time entirely. "It's the emotional betrayal that sticks with you. It eats at you. You just keep wondering, like, you know: why?"

Williams is back at the high school where he first made his name in Jackson, Mississippi to promote his annual "Mo' Fundies, No Problems" basketball camp. The premise of the camp is straightforward enough: if you master the basics, you're less prone to beating yourself. "That's half the battle, really." The charismatic shooting guard beams and for a second his boyish exuberance makes you forget he's actually a veteran NBA player now, and on the market for a new team. When the topic turns to free agency, it's difficult to avoid the topic of LeBron James.

"Could care less where he goes, man." When I express incredulity he puts one hand on his heart, and the other hand shoots skyward like a flare. "Honest to God! I just know wherever he ends up, I'll cross that team off my list." And with that he finishes the last bit of his lunch and hurries back to the gym. There are children to teach, and Williams is a loyal helper.

Later that evening, when we - at Williams' insistence - settle into dinner at Red Lobster [author's note: I was born and raised in Maine, so dining at Red Lobster is akin to an act against God] Williams, perhaps lulled into a state of comfort by the improbable number of biscuits he consumes, opens up about "The Decision." It wasn't that LeBron left, but rather how he left which will forever rub Williams wrong.

"Bron had me blinded man. He wins you over completely. He makes you feel like you're his best friend. He'll party with you, train with you, dance on the sideline with you... Look, growing up I was obsessed with the Thundercats. Bron found out and he had this artist make me a painting where it was me playing basketball, but I looked like Panthro. He would call me Panthro all the time, and I called him Lion-O. We used to joke about how Dwight (Howard, then their nemesis with the Orlando Magic) was Mumm-Ra." I ask Williams where that painting is now, and he crumbles his napkin and tosses it over his shoulder, then shrugs. "I couldn't get Bron to pick up my calls for a week after 'The Decision,' so finally I just sent him a text, I just said, Lion-O would never leave Panthro out in the cold. Two days later I get a text back that says I'm a basketball player and a businessman, not a Thundercat. But that's how he is... That's who he is. He makes you feel like a million bucks and then steps over you like a bad penny on his way out the door."

We speak very little about LeBron, Williams' own free agency, or basketball at all for the remainder of the meal. Instead Williams talks at length about the peace of mind he finds whenever he returns to Jackson, about fishing on the Yazoo River, about his grandfather Muddy who was half Choctaw and taught Williams the value of personal spirituality and harmony with one's environment. He smiles broadly as he discusses his girlfriend LavQuintana's pregnancy, and the perspective on love he has achieved in the past few years. But when we part in the parking lot, he can't help but provide a final reflection on LeBron - one that I imagine his grandfather Muddy would have appreciated.

"A man lets you know who he is by how he treats others. D. Wade, Chris, Heat fans, they saw how Bron did me and the Cavs, so they shouldn't expect no sympathy from no one. You invite a vampire into your house, you gonna get bit. Simple as that."


Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
August 10 2014 01:13 GMT
#1595
That's been floating around forever and is incredibly fake.
Remember Violet.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 10 2014 01:33 GMT
#1596
On August 10 2014 06:05 Jerubaal wrote:
I think Silver predicted 65 wins for the Cavs. If they get 65 wins, then the Heat were major sandbaggers because they only got there once with the help of an embarrassingly easy schedule. The Cavs were #23 in DRtgA last year. They're going to need to get that up into the top 10 I think if they want to get 55 wins or so.

I think 65 is basically based on summing up winshares based on previous seasons, which everyone knows doesn't work at the upper bounds of wins.
Freeeeeeedom
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
August 10 2014 01:56 GMT
#1597
On August 10 2014 10:33 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 06:05 Jerubaal wrote:
I think Silver predicted 65 wins for the Cavs. If they get 65 wins, then the Heat were major sandbaggers because they only got there once with the help of an embarrassingly easy schedule. The Cavs were #23 in DRtgA last year. They're going to need to get that up into the top 10 I think if they want to get 55 wins or so.

I think 65 is basically based on summing up winshares based on previous seasons, which everyone knows doesn't work at the upper bounds of wins.


I grant that, but it's a proxy for opinions on how good they will be. Maybe the better question is how many wins would they get if they were in the West? Would they be a 50 win team?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 10 2014 02:02 GMT
#1598
???????????????????????
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
August 10 2014 02:25 GMT
#1599
I think they could get 50 in the west pretty easily.
Freeeeeeedom
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
August 10 2014 03:50 GMT
#1600
On August 10 2014 07:31 zev318 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2014 06:05 Jerubaal wrote:
I think Silver predicted 65 wins for the Cavs. If they get 65 wins, then the Heat were major sandbaggers because they only got there once with the help of an embarrassingly easy schedule. The Cavs were #23 in DRtgA last year. They're going to need to get that up into the top 10 I think if they want to get 55 wins or so.


lol 65. if you believe that the cavs will get 65 wins, you can also probably write them in to win the NBA championship too. of the 16 team in NBA history to win 65+ games, 13 went on to win it all. 2 of the 3 losses came recently tho, the mavs 06-07, and the lebron cavs 08-09.

The thing about win/loss vs championship is that most of your regular season games are gonna be played vs the same conference, so if you believe that the East is historically weak (not just weaker than the west as usual) you could predict ~65ish wins but think that whichever team makes it out of the West will probably beat them, a scenario I think is pretty likely to happen. Like I think the Cavs have the best chance to make it out of the finals but the Spurs/Clips/Thunder have a good chance to beat them.
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