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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
January 15 2015 14:47 GMT
#5941
Even with that Denver disaster, he was rumored as a serious candidate for the Niners and Falcons, and I think the Bears too?? I would have lost my shit if the Niners hired him. Drafting Tim Tebow in the first says all you need to know about him. Shit, even if you thought he had ability to be a useful player, EVERYONE was projecting him to go much lower.
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51586 Posts
January 15 2015 14:48 GMT
#5942
predicting;

john fox -> chicago
dan quinn -> falcons (actually have no idea how this one will go)
adam gase -> broncos
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
January 15 2015 14:54 GMT
#5943
I agree with all of that. I am not sure how each guy performs though. I think people might be surprised with Fox. He's never struck me as a particularly great coach, but at the same time, he got to the fucking SB with DelHomme, and won a playoff game with Tebow. Trestmen was an absolute shit HC, but there is definite talent on the offensive side of the ball, and he's generally been pretty good with defense. If he can get that defense to even just middle of the pack instead of a bottom 3 unit, they'd be alright.
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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 15 2015 15:04 GMT
#5944
On January 15 2015 23:48 GTR wrote:
predicting;

john fox -> chicago
dan quinn -> falcons (actually have no idea how this one will go)
adam gase -> broncos

No Kubiak to Denver?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 15 2015 15:05 GMT
#5945
On January 16 2015 00:04 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 23:48 GTR wrote:
predicting;

john fox -> chicago
dan quinn -> falcons (actually have no idea how this one will go)
adam gase -> broncos

No Kubiak to Denver?

I thought Kubiak said that he's staying put.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 15 2015 15:06 GMT
#5946
On January 16 2015 00:05 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 16 2015 00:04 AgentW wrote:
On January 15 2015 23:48 GTR wrote:
predicting;

john fox -> chicago
dan quinn -> falcons (actually have no idea how this one will go)
adam gase -> broncos

No Kubiak to Denver?

I thought Kubiak said that he's staying put.

He did, but that was before the Denver job opened. IIRC, Kubiak played and coached for Denver.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 15 2015 16:12 GMT
#5947
On January 15 2015 23:34 QuanticHawk wrote:
I think it's both. He definitely was interested in the Michigan job, but he definitely could have been enticed to stay under different management. York and Baalke had been fueding with him for the past 1-2 years, and leaking all sorts of shit to the media.

The Tomsula hiring is stupid. If you were going to promote internally, go with Fangio, since he's at least called plays at an NFL level. Tomsula has never been a fucking coordinator here. He was for two years in NFL Europe, and had one year as a HC there. That's it, and he's almost 50. This was after jed York was bsing about wanting a teacher too lol

Not only that, but his hiring is almost assuredly going to cost the Niners Fangio since he got passed over. He stated multiple times: if you don't hire me, hire an offensive coach. At this point, if the Niners don't win the division and win at least a game in the playoffs, it's a failure. TBH, anything less than the NFCCG is a failure.

There will be no shortage of comparisons of Jed York to Al Davis if (when) the Tomsula project blows up in their faces.

Also, apparently the Niners are cleaning out almost all of their coaching staff.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
January 15 2015 16:26 GMT
#5948
Yup everyone but Rathman and Fangio, but Fangio is 100% gonna go elsewhere. He's probably going to go to Seattle and make this whole mess extra fun. At least that means Mangini is out as TE coach. I know he probably had very little to do with VD's woes, but fuck that guy.

I think Denver just keeps Gase because they want Peyton back and that's the quickest route for that. I think if Peyton goes, it makes it a lot harder to keep those FAs there since they have no heir apparent
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
January 15 2015 18:26 GMT
#5949
So apparently the scuttlebutt around the Niners is that one of Tomsula or Baalke (or both) want to go to a 4-3. You know, the defense with two of the best MLBs in the game, which has never had a problem stopping the run in the past 5 years.

Glad to see we're starting off by addressing the real issues though!
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51586 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 18:43:48
January 15 2015 18:42 GMT
#5950
Ugh. It would mean Smith will have to bulk up to help set the edge, which means he's going to lose what the team drafted him in for the first place.

Theoretically though, I guess it would look something like this? (I reckon Justin Smith will retire, also don't think Brooks will come back)

Smith-Dorsey-Carradine-Lynch
---Borland---Willis---Bowman---
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
January 15 2015 18:56 GMT
#5951
I would be amazed if Brooks came back. Even though Harbaugh is gone, he's still damn expensive, and Lynch played well at his position. For a team that has a lot of cap issues coming up, they need to save where they can.

And yeah I don't like it because they slimmed Smith down specifically to play 3-4. Granted, they, like most 3-4s, are really hybrid fronts, and Smith does kind of suck ass in coverage. He's a stand up rusher sometimes and has his hand in the dirt too. It seems silly to confine him. I don't worry about Willis and Bowman. They're studs no matter what they play (I think each actually had some 4-3 experience in college actually, Willis at ILB and Bowman at OLB).

The issue becomes the other players and hoping they make the switch. It seems like an unnecessary gamble to make for a team that is a year removed from the playoffs. That's something you do to a crappy team. I get that losing J Smith and McDonald creates major holes for their current scheme but damn
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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
January 15 2015 19:02 GMT
#5952
also, to add the impressive downward spiral, the Niners canned Vic Fangio... after blocking a couple of requests for interviews this offseason

lol
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GoShox
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States1843 Posts
January 15 2015 20:54 GMT
#5953
On January 15 2015 23:41 Zdrastochye wrote:
What are the chances McDaniels gets a HC job (maybe Chicago?) after this season? He failed pretty spectacularly in Denver, and only looks good when his offense is ran by Tom Brady, but he's garnished interest before and has shown that he wants a HC position. If Bill were closer to retirement he'd stick around but that doesn't appear to be happening in the near future.


Perhaps in Atlanta, where Dimitroff is GM and Pioli is an assistant GM. Wouldn't surprise me to see them hire McDaniels.

Pioli single-handedly ruined Kansas City, and I don't even understand why Atlanta would want him anywhere in their organization. But once you see that the current GM is a former Patriot, it makes a little bit more sense. People from the Patriots organization tend to stick together, and there's one thing that's true about almost all of them: they better thank Tom Brady for their job every night, cause without him they'd be way out of the NFL by now.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 15 2015 21:10 GMT
#5954
On January 16 2015 03:56 QuanticHawk wrote:
I would be amazed if Brooks came back. Even though Harbaugh is gone, he's still damn expensive, and Lynch played well at his position. For a team that has a lot of cap issues coming up, they need to save where they can.

And yeah I don't like it because they slimmed Smith down specifically to play 3-4. Granted, they, like most 3-4s, are really hybrid fronts, and Smith does kind of suck ass in coverage. He's a stand up rusher sometimes and has his hand in the dirt too. It seems silly to confine him. I don't worry about Willis and Bowman. They're studs no matter what they play (I think each actually had some 4-3 experience in college actually, Willis at ILB and Bowman at OLB).

The issue becomes the other players and hoping they make the switch. It seems like an unnecessary gamble to make for a team that is a year removed from the playoffs. That's something you do to a crappy team. I get that losing J Smith and McDonald creates major holes for their current scheme but damn


Brooks is gone. His contract is too big, and Lynch outplayed him this year. Maybe Brooks won't show up fat to camp next year.

As for going 4-3, it probably fits the Niners personnel a bit better now, at least in theory. The Niners have been drafting and developing some big dudes to shit up the middle. I think Dial, in particular, is going to be very good. And having Bowman, Willis, and Borland as the three linebackers is pretty damned sweet.

On January 16 2015 04:02 QuanticHawk wrote:
also, to add the impressive downward spiral, the Niners canned Vic Fangio... after blocking a couple of requests for interviews this offseason

lol

Jesus fucking Christ. They just fired the best defensive coordinator in the league. The mileage that Fangio got out of that defensive roster this year was nothing short of amazing.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32132 Posts
January 15 2015 21:12 GMT
#5955
If they're better for the 4-3, it's because without Smith and McDonald, A. Smith's probably the best lineman they have left. They don't really have any good ends for 3-4.
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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 21:19:53
January 15 2015 21:18 GMT
#5956
Who sets up a giant press conference off campus just to say you're coming back to school? Why set one up in general? What a tool.

He's a liar too. "Football has always been a stepping stone for my education" when he said literally the opposite 2 years ago.
giftdgecko
Profile Joined February 2011
United States2126 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 21:22:57
January 15 2015 21:20 GMT
#5957
On January 16 2015 05:54 GoShox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 23:41 Zdrastochye wrote:
What are the chances McDaniels gets a HC job (maybe Chicago?) after this season? He failed pretty spectacularly in Denver, and only looks good when his offense is ran by Tom Brady, but he's garnished interest before and has shown that he wants a HC position. If Bill were closer to retirement he'd stick around but that doesn't appear to be happening in the near future.


Perhaps in Atlanta, where Dimitroff is GM and Pioli is an assistant GM. Wouldn't surprise me to see them hire McDaniels.

Pioli single-handedly ruined Kansas City, and I don't even understand why Atlanta would want him anywhere in their organization. But once you see that the current GM is a former Patriot, it makes a little bit more sense. People from the Patriots organization tend to stick together, and there's one thing that's true about almost all of them: they better thank Tom Brady for their job every night, cause without him they'd be way out of the NFL by now.

McDaniels is shit and nobody in NE actually likes him, he loses more games with his play calling than he wins. Good luck to any team that hires him, NE will be better without him.

Pioli also improved that roster every year he was there as far as I can tell. The contract to Cassell was terrible and the HC didn't end up being right, but he made a pretty good rebuild and added a lot of talent to a pretty terrible team. I am not sure what more you could want from him.

I love a lot of those players on SF, sad to hear how terrible things are being run.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
January 15 2015 21:25 GMT
#5958
On January 16 2015 06:18 On_Slaught wrote:
Who sets up a giant press conference off campus just to say you're coming back to school? Why set one up in general? What a tool.

He's a liar too. "Football has always been a stepping stone for my education" when he said literally the opposite 2 years ago.

That's a guy I'm gonna want to draft in a few years, a guy who sets up a presser just to say he's returning. Mature.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
January 15 2015 21:55 GMT
#5959
How many games in college has that kid even played...
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-15 22:01:04
January 15 2015 22:00 GMT
#5960
On January 16 2015 06:55 DannyJ wrote:
How many games in college has that kid even played...

only 3 starts. He had only attempted 2 in game passes before this year. He played in garbage time in 7 other games this season but only completed 10 passes in those games

career stats: 863 yards 7 TD 2 Int 57/94 passing (60.63%)
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