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Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
September 23 2014 03:37 GMT
#2361
On September 19 2014 06:53 Aveng3r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2014 06:10 Shotcoder wrote:
On September 19 2014 02:46 AgentW wrote:
I like Bernard off the bat. Forte is a consideration to sit because the Jets run defense is awesome, but c'mon, it's Matt Forte. I'm not going near Ridley and would probably try to trade him if I were you because that backfield is an enigma. Like Bradshaw because the Jags suck, but Richardson still exists.

I'd start Bernard, Forte, and Sproles.

EDIT: Reports that Martin's not going to play tonight against the porous Falcons run defense. Start your Rainey's!



Bradshaw over Forte. There is no way Richardson keeps his starting role as long as Bradshaw is playing the way he is.

wrongwrongwrong

do not bench your first round pick for ahmad bradshaw. bench somebody else.



Ehem
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
September 23 2014 04:16 GMT
#2362
What I said is still correct..
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
September 23 2014 08:14 GMT
#2363
On September 23 2014 13:16 Aveng3r wrote:
What I said is still correct..


13.60 points compared to 16.30 points in my league. And Forte only got 33 on the ground, he picked up points off of catches.

I wasn't stating to do it all the time. But this week was a particularly good week to gamble. The NYJ Defense is always good vs the run and Bradshaw is going to get the scores and passing down plays and will eventually take over the starting job.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51593 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 08:52:22
September 23 2014 08:47 GMT
#2364


keep forgetting to watch these every week
btw tulloch tore his ACL doing that celebration LOL
Commentator
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
September 23 2014 10:28 GMT
#2365
On September 23 2014 17:47 GTR wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VThaVN3lD0

keep forgetting to watch these every week
btw tulloch tore his ACL doing that celebration LOL

not funny for a lions fan
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
September 23 2014 12:03 GMT
#2366
On September 23 2014 17:14 Shotcoder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 13:16 Aveng3r wrote:
What I said is still correct..


13.60 points compared to 16.30 points in my league. And Forte only got 33 on the ground, he picked up points off of catches.

I wasn't stating to do it all the time. But this week was a particularly good week to gamble. The NYJ Defense is always good vs the run and Bradshaw is going to get the scores and passing down plays and will eventually take over the starting job.

Aveng3r is still correct. Just because it doesn't work doesn't mean it's not the right process.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51593 Posts
September 23 2014 13:55 GMT
#2367
On September 23 2014 21:03 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 17:14 Shotcoder wrote:
On September 23 2014 13:16 Aveng3r wrote:
What I said is still correct..


13.60 points compared to 16.30 points in my league. And Forte only got 33 on the ground, he picked up points off of catches.

I wasn't stating to do it all the time. But this week was a particularly good week to gamble. The NYJ Defense is always good vs the run and Bradshaw is going to get the scores and passing down plays and will eventually take over the starting job.

Aveng3r is still correct. Just because it doesn't work doesn't mean it's not the right process.


yes. there is absolutely no reason to bench your studs to play match-ups. the only instance is when they cannot play at all.
why draft them so high up if you just want to play matchups?
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23930 Posts
September 23 2014 14:58 GMT
#2368
On September 23 2014 22:55 GTR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2014 21:03 AgentW wrote:
On September 23 2014 17:14 Shotcoder wrote:
On September 23 2014 13:16 Aveng3r wrote:
What I said is still correct..


13.60 points compared to 16.30 points in my league. And Forte only got 33 on the ground, he picked up points off of catches.

I wasn't stating to do it all the time. But this week was a particularly good week to gamble. The NYJ Defense is always good vs the run and Bradshaw is going to get the scores and passing down plays and will eventually take over the starting job.

Aveng3r is still correct. Just because it doesn't work doesn't mean it's not the right process.


yes. there is absolutely no reason to bench your studs to play match-ups. the only instance is when they cannot play at all.
why draft them so high up if you just want to play matchups?



I know it's true but it's a poor consolation for the fat dump Marshall and McCoy left on my chest this week.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
September 23 2014 18:13 GMT
#2369
How is that incorrect, Your "stud" had 24ish points week 1 and then 8ish in week two followed by 13 in week three. Those aren't stud number and Bradshaw has 16, 26 and 14. Which is not only more consistent but was also playing against the Jag while Forte was playing against NYJ. Dont get me wrong, like I said Forte is the pick in most weeks but play the match ups and don't be stubborn.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
September 23 2014 18:22 GMT
#2370
One good and one bad game from a guy who we've had years of information of his successes? Bench him because he has a bad matchup for a guy who doesn't even start for an often nonsensical offense and may be made out of paper mache!

You don't see the problem here?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
September 23 2014 18:56 GMT
#2371
On September 24 2014 03:22 AgentW wrote:
One good and one bad game from a guy who we've had years of information of his successes? Bench him because he has a bad matchup for a guy who doesn't even start for an often nonsensical offense and may be made out of paper mache!

You don't see the problem here?


I don't know how you can say Bradshaw doesn't start when he gets half the touches, and has been capitalizing in three straight games now. I agree, I wouldn't bench Forte for Bradshaw, what were your other options? Someone should probably get benched for Bradshaw considering you probably drafted him low or picked him up off the waiver wire, but it shouldn't be your first round pick.

Meanwhile, I'm riding Murray/Bradshaw/Spiller all the way to the bank.
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-23 19:20:34
September 23 2014 19:18 GMT
#2372
(14 team league) this is what i ended up rolling with. I ended up trading ridley away for hopkins... i may or may not have been thinking correctly when i made that trade lol

I was pretty sold on Bradshaw. The only lineup change i was close to considering prior the lineups locking was subbing in Sproles for Forte.

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AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
September 23 2014 20:19 GMT
#2373
On September 24 2014 03:56 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 03:22 AgentW wrote:
One good and one bad game from a guy who we've had years of information of his successes? Bench him because he has a bad matchup for a guy who doesn't even start for an often nonsensical offense and may be made out of paper mache!

You don't see the problem here?


I don't know how you can say Bradshaw doesn't start when he gets half the touches, and has been capitalizing in three straight games now. I agree, I wouldn't bench Forte for Bradshaw, what were your other options? Someone should probably get benched for Bradshaw considering you probably drafted him low or picked him up off the waiver wire, but it shouldn't be your first round pick.

Meanwhile, I'm riding Murray/Bradshaw/Spiller all the way to the bank.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Bradshaw, mostly because Trent "2.0 YPC lol" Richardson, but benching him for a guy who's a proven stud who has zero competition in his backfield is madness, regardless of his matchup.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
September 23 2014 21:14 GMT
#2374
On September 24 2014 05:19 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 03:56 ZasZ. wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:22 AgentW wrote:
One good and one bad game from a guy who we've had years of information of his successes? Bench him because he has a bad matchup for a guy who doesn't even start for an often nonsensical offense and may be made out of paper mache!

You don't see the problem here?


I don't know how you can say Bradshaw doesn't start when he gets half the touches, and has been capitalizing in three straight games now. I agree, I wouldn't bench Forte for Bradshaw, what were your other options? Someone should probably get benched for Bradshaw considering you probably drafted him low or picked him up off the waiver wire, but it shouldn't be your first round pick.

Meanwhile, I'm riding Murray/Bradshaw/Spiller all the way to the bank.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Bradshaw, mostly because Trent "2.0 YPC lol" Richardson, but benching him for a guy who's a proven stud who has zero competition in his backfield is madness, regardless of his matchup.


Yeah no I agree with not benching Forte, and afterwards I saw his other two options were Bernard and Sproles. I would definitely bench one of those guys for Bradshaw, probably Bernard since Sproles has so much upside.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
September 23 2014 21:26 GMT
#2375
On September 24 2014 06:14 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 05:19 AgentW wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:56 ZasZ. wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:22 AgentW wrote:
One good and one bad game from a guy who we've had years of information of his successes? Bench him because he has a bad matchup for a guy who doesn't even start for an often nonsensical offense and may be made out of paper mache!

You don't see the problem here?


I don't know how you can say Bradshaw doesn't start when he gets half the touches, and has been capitalizing in three straight games now. I agree, I wouldn't bench Forte for Bradshaw, what were your other options? Someone should probably get benched for Bradshaw considering you probably drafted him low or picked him up off the waiver wire, but it shouldn't be your first round pick.

Meanwhile, I'm riding Murray/Bradshaw/Spiller all the way to the bank.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Bradshaw, mostly because Trent "2.0 YPC lol" Richardson, but benching him for a guy who's a proven stud who has zero competition in his backfield is madness, regardless of his matchup.


Yeah no I agree with not benching Forte, and afterwards I saw his other two options were Bernard and Sproles. I would definitely bench one of those guys for Bradshaw, probably Bernard since Sproles has so much upside.

Uh isn't Bernard like a top 5 guy this year despite something like 3.4 YPC?
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
URfavHO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States514 Posts
September 23 2014 22:05 GMT
#2376
On September 24 2014 06:26 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 06:14 ZasZ. wrote:
On September 24 2014 05:19 AgentW wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:56 ZasZ. wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:22 AgentW wrote:
One good and one bad game from a guy who we've had years of information of his successes? Bench him because he has a bad matchup for a guy who doesn't even start for an often nonsensical offense and may be made out of paper mache!

You don't see the problem here?


I don't know how you can say Bradshaw doesn't start when he gets half the touches, and has been capitalizing in three straight games now. I agree, I wouldn't bench Forte for Bradshaw, what were your other options? Someone should probably get benched for Bradshaw considering you probably drafted him low or picked him up off the waiver wire, but it shouldn't be your first round pick.

Meanwhile, I'm riding Murray/Bradshaw/Spiller all the way to the bank.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Bradshaw, mostly because Trent "2.0 YPC lol" Richardson, but benching him for a guy who's a proven stud who has zero competition in his backfield is madness, regardless of his matchup.


Yeah no I agree with not benching Forte, and afterwards I saw his other two options were Bernard and Sproles. I would definitely bench one of those guys for Bradshaw, probably Bernard since Sproles has so much upside.

Uh isn't Bernard like a top 5 guy this year despite something like 3.4 YPC?

A decent chunk of Bernard's points come through the air.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
September 23 2014 22:43 GMT
#2377
On September 24 2014 06:26 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 06:14 ZasZ. wrote:
On September 24 2014 05:19 AgentW wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:56 ZasZ. wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:22 AgentW wrote:
One good and one bad game from a guy who we've had years of information of his successes? Bench him because he has a bad matchup for a guy who doesn't even start for an often nonsensical offense and may be made out of paper mache!

You don't see the problem here?


I don't know how you can say Bradshaw doesn't start when he gets half the touches, and has been capitalizing in three straight games now. I agree, I wouldn't bench Forte for Bradshaw, what were your other options? Someone should probably get benched for Bradshaw considering you probably drafted him low or picked him up off the waiver wire, but it shouldn't be your first round pick.

Meanwhile, I'm riding Murray/Bradshaw/Spiller all the way to the bank.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Bradshaw, mostly because Trent "2.0 YPC lol" Richardson, but benching him for a guy who's a proven stud who has zero competition in his backfield is madness, regardless of his matchup.


Yeah no I agree with not benching Forte, and afterwards I saw his other two options were Bernard and Sproles. I would definitely bench one of those guys for Bradshaw, probably Bernard since Sproles has so much upside.

Uh isn't Bernard like a top 5 guy this year despite something like 3.4 YPC?


Derp I was thinking of Bernard Pierce, not Giovani Bernard. The debate between Sproles and Bradshaw is tougher, but I would still play Bradshaw I think.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
September 23 2014 23:08 GMT
#2378
On September 24 2014 07:43 ZasZ. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 06:26 AgentW wrote:
On September 24 2014 06:14 ZasZ. wrote:
On September 24 2014 05:19 AgentW wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:56 ZasZ. wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:22 AgentW wrote:
One good and one bad game from a guy who we've had years of information of his successes? Bench him because he has a bad matchup for a guy who doesn't even start for an often nonsensical offense and may be made out of paper mache!

You don't see the problem here?


I don't know how you can say Bradshaw doesn't start when he gets half the touches, and has been capitalizing in three straight games now. I agree, I wouldn't bench Forte for Bradshaw, what were your other options? Someone should probably get benched for Bradshaw considering you probably drafted him low or picked him up off the waiver wire, but it shouldn't be your first round pick.

Meanwhile, I'm riding Murray/Bradshaw/Spiller all the way to the bank.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Bradshaw, mostly because Trent "2.0 YPC lol" Richardson, but benching him for a guy who's a proven stud who has zero competition in his backfield is madness, regardless of his matchup.


Yeah no I agree with not benching Forte, and afterwards I saw his other two options were Bernard and Sproles. I would definitely bench one of those guys for Bradshaw, probably Bernard since Sproles has so much upside.

Uh isn't Bernard like a top 5 guy this year despite something like 3.4 YPC?


Derp I was thinking of Bernard Pierce, not Giovani Bernard. The debate between Sproles and Bradshaw is tougher, but I would still play Bradshaw I think.

That's fair. Just not Forte.

On September 24 2014 07:05 URfavHO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 06:26 AgentW wrote:
On September 24 2014 06:14 ZasZ. wrote:
On September 24 2014 05:19 AgentW wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:56 ZasZ. wrote:
On September 24 2014 03:22 AgentW wrote:
One good and one bad game from a guy who we've had years of information of his successes? Bench him because he has a bad matchup for a guy who doesn't even start for an often nonsensical offense and may be made out of paper mache!

You don't see the problem here?


I don't know how you can say Bradshaw doesn't start when he gets half the touches, and has been capitalizing in three straight games now. I agree, I wouldn't bench Forte for Bradshaw, what were your other options? Someone should probably get benched for Bradshaw considering you probably drafted him low or picked him up off the waiver wire, but it shouldn't be your first round pick.

Meanwhile, I'm riding Murray/Bradshaw/Spiller all the way to the bank.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Bradshaw, mostly because Trent "2.0 YPC lol" Richardson, but benching him for a guy who's a proven stud who has zero competition in his backfield is madness, regardless of his matchup.


Yeah no I agree with not benching Forte, and afterwards I saw his other two options were Bernard and Sproles. I would definitely bench one of those guys for Bradshaw, probably Bernard since Sproles has so much upside.

Uh isn't Bernard like a top 5 guy this year despite something like 3.4 YPC?

A decent chunk of Bernard's points come through the air.

That's my point. He hasn't run well and he's still great.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
September 24 2014 01:35 GMT
#2379
On September 24 2014 03:22 AgentW wrote:
One good and one bad game from a guy who we've had years of information of his successes? Bench him because he has a bad matchup for a guy who doesn't even start for an often nonsensical offense and may be made out of paper mache!

You don't see the problem here?


Weird I remember the same injury argument with Forte the past 2 seasons. That's irrelevent neither is currently injured.

The problem I see here is you're willing to start a RB because of his name and draft status instead of what the fact he's playing against a good run stopping defense and has been playing worse than someone who went in the 15th.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-24 01:49:34
September 24 2014 01:47 GMT
#2380
I don't for the life of me know where the Forte injury concerns came from. He missed the last four games three years ago and has missed one other game in his career. Ahmad Bradshaw is brittle at best.

Yes, I'm wiling to do it when it's only Week 3 we're looking at. If this persists and we're in Week 7, then I'm taking a longer look at it. But now, I'm not going to overreact to such a small number of games. If I had taken Forte and had this decision to make, I know I took him for a very sound reason and wouldn't lose sleep that playing him didn't work out.
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