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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
May 28 2014 05:06 GMT
#1581
The jist of it is work up to quick max, then 3-5 triples at 80-90% of that, and then 2x5 speed reps @ 50% (unless you're doing olympic lifts). Do 4-7 times a week. Alternate front/back. You get used to squatting heavy with the singles to max often, get volume work in with the triples (but not so much you won't be able to squat the next day), and then light reps where you focus on power. Really get a feel for your technique and auto-regulating/pushing your body.

Basically squatting makes you better at squatting. Eating and sleeping are good too.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
May 28 2014 05:11 GMT
#1582
On May 28 2014 14:06 decafchicken wrote:
The jist of it is work up to quick max, then 3-5 triples at 80-90% of that, and then 2x5 speed reps @ 50% (unless you're doing olympic lifts). Do 4-7 times a week. Alternate front/back. You get used to squatting heavy with the singles to max often, get volume work in with the triples (but not so much you won't be able to squat the next day), and then light reps where you focus on power. Really get a feel for your technique and auto-regulating/pushing your body.

Basically squatting makes you better at squatting. Eating and sleeping are good too.


4-7 based on how you feel the next day or just as you can get to the gym? And would you still do other things after squatting (other body parts or w/e)?
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
May 28 2014 05:12 GMT
#1583
I was incredibly sore today from yesterday's squats. Did something that I've been wanting to do for a while but never got around to it. Snatches on the minute for 20 minutes starting at 70% and increasing. Ended up doing only 18 attempts lol. I liked it, no time to think you just go. Attempts:

160 160 165 165 170 175 175 180 185 185 190 190 195 200 205x 205 210 220x

Fatigue started to kick in around the 185, I was sweating so much haha.

http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
May 28 2014 05:18 GMT
#1584
I remember reading in this thread a year or two back that heavy singles is where the gains are. I gotta try it when I start bulking again :p
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15364 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 05:45:10
May 28 2014 05:42 GMT
#1585
On May 28 2014 12:38 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 12:05 funkie wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:04 autoexec wrote:
Your squat went up >100 pounds in 1-2 months funkie? what the hell....


Ask decaf, he's the one that showed that program to me.

Lifting is serious business my friend.


What program are you doing? Is it primarily just focused on the squat? I feel like I'm really struggling to add weight to my squat and my work set is only 195 right now (even though I was doing 225 before)

You have to understand that funkie is just a strong as fuck monster. Wait until he starts pressing again ....

Ha good news, found a gym last night by accident that has a bench and a squat rack. Yay! I was so excited that I instantly signed up for three months. Could have probably gotten the price down by a lot, the guy seemed super surprised when I agreed immediately haha.
Anyway this makes my situation considerably better :D
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-28 13:58:39
May 28 2014 13:57 GMT
#1586
On May 28 2014 14:12 Donkeys wrote:
I was incredibly sore today from yesterday's squats. Did something that I've been wanting to do for a while but never got around to it. Snatches on the minute for 20 minutes starting at 70% and increasing. Ended up doing only 18 attempts lol. I liked it, no time to think you just go. Attempts:

160 160 165 165 170 175 175 180 185 185 190 190 195 200 205x 205 210 220x

Fatigue started to kick in around the 185, I was sweating so much haha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaEQ5Gc2fr4


The lighter reps are better but you still leave the bar out in front of you and let it pull you forward, especially as the weight gets heavier. Watched this overhead view of lu's snatch to get a better idea of where you want the bar to be (this one pulls him a tiny bit forward (his snatches at mortal weights are usually slightly backward) but w/e it's a world record) (open in youtube and play at .25x speed).

how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20154 Posts
May 28 2014 14:01 GMT
#1587
On May 28 2014 14:11 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 14:06 decafchicken wrote:
The jist of it is work up to quick max, then 3-5 triples at 80-90% of that, and then 2x5 speed reps @ 50% (unless you're doing olympic lifts). Do 4-7 times a week. Alternate front/back. You get used to squatting heavy with the singles to max often, get volume work in with the triples (but not so much you won't be able to squat the next day), and then light reps where you focus on power. Really get a feel for your technique and auto-regulating/pushing your body.

Basically squatting makes you better at squatting. Eating and sleeping are good too.


4-7 based on how you feel the next day or just as you can get to the gym? And would you still do other things after squatting (other body parts or w/e)?


It's usually as often as my schedule allows me, I usually hit ~4 but can get in 6 times if I'm lucky/not being an alcoholic. After squats I usually do accessory work and do my olympic lifting separately. If I have to squat and do the olympic lifts I try to do my squats after.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
May 28 2014 14:45 GMT
#1588
On May 28 2014 14:42 zatic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2014 12:38 Najda wrote:
On May 28 2014 12:05 funkie wrote:
On May 28 2014 08:04 autoexec wrote:
Your squat went up >100 pounds in 1-2 months funkie? what the hell....


Ask decaf, he's the one that showed that program to me.

Lifting is serious business my friend.


What program are you doing? Is it primarily just focused on the squat? I feel like I'm really struggling to add weight to my squat and my work set is only 195 right now (even though I was doing 225 before)

You have to understand that funkie is just a strong as fuck monster. Wait until he starts pressing again ....

Ha good news, found a gym last night by accident that has a bench and a squat rack. Yay! I was so excited that I instantly signed up for three months. Could have probably gotten the price down by a lot, the guy seemed super surprised when I agreed immediately haha.
Anyway this makes my situation considerably better :D


Without any proper gym I've been pressing 60kg ez ez pz.

I need to start training harder and get my press to 70 or 80, and then be able to jerk 100kg or more.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
May 28 2014 16:28 GMT
#1589
I lost another kilo, abs slightly more visible, but hory sheit I'm fucking little girl weak.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
May 28 2014 18:18 GMT
#1590
Under 180 lbs again. Didn't mean to lose this much. Abs visible when not flexing, cheek bones much more prominent. Haven't lost strength but sure as hell not gaining any. Really wanted to maintain at 185-190. Going to be bulk time again after pictures in June.
hjhy
Profile Joined March 2014
7 Posts
May 28 2014 18:18 GMT
#1591
On May 28 2014 14:12 Donkeys wrote:
I was incredibly sore today from yesterday's squats. Did something that I've been wanting to do for a while but never got around to it. Snatches on the minute for 20 minutes starting at 70% and increasing. Ended up doing only 18 attempts lol. I liked it, no time to think you just go. Attempts:

160 160 165 165 170 175 175 180 185 185 190 190 195 200 205x 205 210 220x

Fatigue started to kick in around the 185, I was sweating so much haha.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaEQ5Gc2fr4


nice sleeves :D mine ar eon the way, how are you liking them?
autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
May 28 2014 22:53 GMT
#1592
Decaf, I want to gain strength and I don't really care about my 1RM on squat. I play football and would rather do good in that while in high school than focus on having a beastly 1RM for squat. That being said, is that squat cycle you referenced better than Smolov for building strength?

On a side note, I started an internship today, and it is so hard to workout after a full work day of laboring out in the heat
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-05-29 02:11:32
May 29 2014 02:10 GMT
#1593
On May 22 2014 03:43 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2014 22:28 mordek wrote:
On May 21 2014 08:47 IgnE wrote:
On May 20 2014 21:34 mordek wrote:
Pretty frustrated with my back. Finally up to weights I was at 2 years ago (!!!) and despite a bunch of assistance work, regular chiro visits my SI joint is flaring up again. Deadlifted 310x5, 5lb off my lifetime max for reps, and it felt easy. Within the next half hour the pain came on and got worse throughout the day. Feels better this morning but I just can't deal with this, its the kinda of nagging deep ache that drives you insane


Do you wear a belt? How do you brace your core when squatting?

I started wearing a belt while deadlifting, which doesn't quite answer your question.

When squatting I try to set up a neutral spine best I can when I unrack with knees bent. Walk out two steps, deep breath and squeezing butt and abs. Maintain internal pressure throughout the lift. No belt but I should definitely try that.

I know my left knee has less range of motion and my left hamstring is not as strong as my right still despite trying to even that out. I may need to not go as deep since I think I'm compensating for the left knee tightness which I'm not sure there's much I can do to correct that with the new acl.

Right now my plan is being more diligent with planks every day and hip stretches.


http://www.mikereinold.com/2012/03/core-stability-from-the-inside-out.html

If you are used to using a built you may be creating pressure without actively stabilizing your lower spine within the balloon of your torso, so that it is free to move around.

Other possibility is that your squat has butt wink in it that is forcing your SI joint and lower spine through an unstable position and aggravating it whenever you squat.

Form check video for squat. Looks like butt wink


Deadlift too while I'm at (ties my PR from 2 years ago for reps):

I was tired but didn't feel like I didn't have the strength in me at any point, which was not the case the first time I got here.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
May 29 2014 03:34 GMT
#1594
both seem pretty good, just too easy for you (slow decents)
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
May 29 2014 04:01 GMT
#1595
On May 29 2014 07:53 autoexec wrote:
Decaf, I want to gain strength and I don't really care about my 1RM on squat. I play football and would rather do good in that while in high school than focus on having a beastly 1RM for squat. That being said, is that squat cycle you referenced better than Smolov for building strength?

On a side note, I started an internship today, and it is so hard to workout after a full work day of laboring out in the heat


What kind of internship has you laboring in the sun?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
May 29 2014 04:06 GMT
#1596
On May 29 2014 11:10 mordek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 22 2014 03:43 IgnE wrote:
On May 21 2014 22:28 mordek wrote:
On May 21 2014 08:47 IgnE wrote:
On May 20 2014 21:34 mordek wrote:
Pretty frustrated with my back. Finally up to weights I was at 2 years ago (!!!) and despite a bunch of assistance work, regular chiro visits my SI joint is flaring up again. Deadlifted 310x5, 5lb off my lifetime max for reps, and it felt easy. Within the next half hour the pain came on and got worse throughout the day. Feels better this morning but I just can't deal with this, its the kinda of nagging deep ache that drives you insane


Do you wear a belt? How do you brace your core when squatting?

I started wearing a belt while deadlifting, which doesn't quite answer your question.

When squatting I try to set up a neutral spine best I can when I unrack with knees bent. Walk out two steps, deep breath and squeezing butt and abs. Maintain internal pressure throughout the lift. No belt but I should definitely try that.

I know my left knee has less range of motion and my left hamstring is not as strong as my right still despite trying to even that out. I may need to not go as deep since I think I'm compensating for the left knee tightness which I'm not sure there's much I can do to correct that with the new acl.

Right now my plan is being more diligent with planks every day and hip stretches.


http://www.mikereinold.com/2012/03/core-stability-from-the-inside-out.html



If you are used to using a built you may be creating pressure without actively stabilizing your lower spine within the balloon of your torso, so that it is free to move around.

Other possibility is that your squat has butt wink in it that is forcing your SI joint and lower spine through an unstable position and aggravating it whenever you squat.

Form check video for squat. Looks like butt wink
http://youtu.be/XGBO6Woe_V4

Deadlift too while I'm at (ties my PR from 2 years ago for reps):
http://youtu.be/NsM8XfzPB04
I was tired but didn't feel like I didn't have the strength in me at any point, which was not the case the first time I got here.


Try goblet squatting with as heavy weight as you can. Do like 4x25 and see if your back hurts. Goblet squats are easiest to do without butt wink. Also what shoes are you wearing?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15364 Posts
May 29 2014 06:03 GMT
#1597
For you traveling US guys: http://www.gymsurfing.com/

(I am so mad I didn't come up with this. It's soooo obvious.)
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
rod409
Profile Joined September 2011
United States36 Posts
May 29 2014 06:05 GMT
#1598
Two days ago I was deadlifting and on one rep I felt something go really wrong with my lower back. I figured it was a muscle pull as my back got very stiff and I had a similar situation about 5 years ago. I have been icing my back and today I went to the doctor. He checked for nerve issues and found that it is likely a muscle injury. The doc said to stop ice and switch to heat since its been two days since the injury and now I'm taking a muscle relaxant and ibuprofen. He also gave a referral for physical therapy that I can cancel if I think I don't need it.

Obviously in the future I want to prevent injury, but is there advice for after getting hurt? I asked the doc and he said foam rolling would be good for my back, is there anything I should be careful with doing that? I also don't know a good way to ease back into working out.
Akka
Profile Joined August 2010
France291 Posts
May 29 2014 07:13 GMT
#1599
I know you guys here are mostly about lifting, and I don't even lift, but I've been doing Muay Thai training 3 days a week and football (soccer) the remaining 4, and I'm beginning to get quite fit after a month like this. I hope I can keep going and finally get to 80kg (down from 100kg about 18 months ago and 85kg 6 months ago) ^^
My main problem still is flexibility though. I don't know how to get better at this so I just stretch as much as possible when I warm up :/
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
May 29 2014 09:37 GMT
#1600
Yeah I always spend the first half hour at the gym stretching, but that's just to be able to squat at all. To get a lasting increase in mobility you gotta do that shit daily.

I hate stretching.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
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