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SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 01:03:32
January 28 2014 00:49 GMT
#361
So at the moment im really putting an effort to get my nutrition right to build more muscle but im kinda stuck at the vegetables. I want to gain (muscle-)weight basically.

The recommendation for strict bodybuilding nutrition would be fucking 2 cups (380g) of vegetables(brokkoli for example) per meal.
i cant fucking eat that much, and just logistically how am i supposed to store ~7kg of vegetables in my freezer every week?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 28 2014 00:55 GMT
#362
I go to the store and buy fresh veggies very day or two but I don't eat nearly 2 cups per meal. What meal plan are you following, how many calories/day is your maintenance and how much surplus are you trying to get?
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19266 Posts
January 28 2014 00:56 GMT
#363
If you think your numbers are off use myfitnesspal.com to track all your food and whatnot. Supplements are really handy for taking in more protein or fiber or whatever else you need.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
January 28 2014 01:06 GMT
#364
On January 28 2014 08:42 GoTuNk! wrote:
Girls also say the like nice guys that respect them.

So had to take a week off (T_T) to study for my grade exam (and get drunk 3 days in a row afterwards)

Will get back to oly lifting for a month or so untill I have to prepare for my next meet if my shoulder allows.

Clean up to 85kg, FS 100x3x3 lol. Clean felt super easy but the jerk was off (jerked up to 70 only)


Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC you haven't ever really done any serious front squatting. Compared to your BS 100kg is still pretty light, but I still wonder if you're seeing any carry over between the two of them?
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 01:32:41
January 28 2014 01:17 GMT
#365
On January 28 2014 09:55 Najda wrote:
I go to the store and buy fresh veggies very day or two but I don't eat nearly 2 cups per meal. What meal plan are you following, how many calories/day is your maintenance and how much surplus are you trying to get?


I use Scoobys workshop

weight: 73 kg
height: 180cm
age 23
Activity level: 5-6 hrs/wk
goal: gain muscle, lose fat

and then it gives you your BMR (1809), TDEE(3121) and a custom meal. I dunno how much surplus. As much muscle mass as my body can produce? so whats that? 10 pounds per year or something?

Going to the store every day is impractical for me. I hate shopping and i love to do it only once a week. Thats like the most important thing for me. I need to make it convenient otherwise i end up at subway or mac donalds or ordering a pizza.

On January 28 2014 09:56 tofucake wrote:
If you think your numbers are off use myfitnesspal.com to track all your food and whatnot. Supplements are really handy for taking in more protein or fiber or whatever else you need.


I used a few websites but none was quite convincing for me because some features are missing and i didnt really find the perfect page. Most of them are designed for the american market and have a lot of presets for american products, but not my local ones. id rather just copy&paste the nutritional facts.
so if i have to add so much myself then id rather build my own thing in excel to my liking. I just added a checksum, i think that problem is now identified and corrected. That human error when you copy and paste with your eyes :D

So sometimes the calories still dont match the calories that are displayed on the nutritional facts if you add up like this:
1 g Protein/ Carb = 4 calories
1 g Fat = 9 calories
I guess its for products that are high in fiber because its not separated in digestable and indigestable fiber... so that would explain small deviations.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 01:32:45
January 28 2014 01:32 GMT
#366
On January 28 2014 10:17 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 09:55 Najda wrote:
I go to the store and buy fresh veggies very day or two but I don't eat nearly 2 cups per meal. What meal plan are you following, how many calories/day is your maintenance and how much surplus are you trying to get?


I use Scoobys workshop

weight: 73 kg
height: 180cm
age 23
Activity level: 5-6 hrs/wk
goal: gain muscle, lose fat

and then it gives you your BMR (1809), TDEE(3121) and a custom meal. I dunno how much surplus. As much muscle mass as my body can produce? so whats that? 10 pounds per year or something?

Going to the store every day is impractical for me. I hate shopping and i love to do it only once a week. Thats like the most important thing for me. I need to make it convenient otherwise i end up at subway or mac donalds or ordering a pizza.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 09:56 tofucake wrote:
If you think your numbers are off use myfitnesspal.com to track all your food and whatnot. Supplements are really handy for taking in more protein or fiber or whatever else you need.


I used a few websites but none was quite convincing for me because some features are missing and i didnt really find the perfect page. Most of them are designed for the american market and have a lot of presets for american products, but not my local ones. id rather just copy&paste the nutritional facts.
so if i have to add so much myself then id rather build my own thing in excel to my liking. I just added a checksum, i think that problem is now identified and corrected. That human error when you copy and paste with your eyes :D


As long as you're counting, it doesn't matter how you do it. Myfitnesspal is just practical for most people.

Anyway, I would just say that the recommended numbers for vegetables are overkill. Eat as much as you can do practically- they hardly have any calories, and they're mostly for fullness/micronutrients. You'll survive with a cup instead of two cups. Just obviously don't skip them entirely, and make sure you're taking a multi/vitD/fish oil/ whatever else as well.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19266 Posts
January 28 2014 01:33 GMT
#367
The cool thing about myfitnesspal is that you can enter meals and then they're saved for everyone who uses the site.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
January 28 2014 01:43 GMT
#368
On January 28 2014 10:06 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 08:42 GoTuNk! wrote:
Girls also say the like nice guys that respect them.

So had to take a week off (T_T) to study for my grade exam (and get drunk 3 days in a row afterwards)

Will get back to oly lifting for a month or so untill I have to prepare for my next meet if my shoulder allows.

Clean up to 85kg, FS 100x3x3 lol. Clean felt super easy but the jerk was off (jerked up to 70 only)


Correct me if I'm wrong, but IIRC you haven't ever really done any serious front squatting. Compared to your BS 100kg is still pretty light, but I still wonder if you're seeing any carry over between the two of them?


took an entire week off but yeah I suck at FS, keeping the rack position is hard.. Dunno, I plan to do 4 weeks of oly lifting training and then my usual 5-6 weeks leading up to the meet. I wanna see if the oly lifting helps build more raw power, specially for the squat.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 01:54:30
January 28 2014 01:50 GMT
#369
Just got back from vegas. Being drunk for 48 hours and awake for 60 gives you one hell of a hangover. Can't wait to get a lift in tomorrow

@gotunk! Everything i've read and experienced is that the front squat has a ton more carryover to the bs (especially lbbs) than the other way around. Obviously.

On January 28 2014 08:42 GoTuNk! wrote:
Girls also say the like nice guys that respect them.

lololol
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
January 28 2014 02:12 GMT
#370
On January 28 2014 10:50 decafchicken wrote:
Just got back from vegas. Being drunk for 48 hours and awake for 60 gives you one hell of a hangover. Can't wait to get a lift in tomorrow

@gotunk! Everything i've read and experienced is that the front squat has a ton more carryover to the bs (especially lbbs) than the other way around. Obviously.

Show nested quote +
On January 28 2014 08:42 GoTuNk! wrote:
Girls also say the like nice guys that respect them.

lololol


Sounds like 12 hours of missed opportunity.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
January 28 2014 02:26 GMT
#371
those were the 12 hours before i got to the airport :p
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
January 28 2014 04:39 GMT
#372
Ah lol.

Just cooked 15 pounds of chicken. Now no excuses to not eat. Voraciously.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
January 28 2014 12:49 GMT
#373
@Osmosis ahaha congrats dude, i am turning 30 this year too (dec) - fuck this shit!! :D
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
January 28 2014 12:52 GMT
#374
On January 28 2014 09:49 SpikeStarcraft wrote:
So at the moment im really putting an effort to get my nutrition right to build more muscle but im kinda stuck at the vegetables. I want to gain (muscle-)weight basically.

The recommendation for strict bodybuilding nutrition would be fucking 2 cups (380g) of vegetables(brokkoli for example) per meal.
i cant fucking eat that much, and just logistically how am i supposed to store ~7kg of vegetables in my freezer every week?


idk how calories in potato, but i reccomend adding a potato to your meals to get more bang for buck. they mircrowave in 6+ minutes, can be then added to any fried vegetable mix, omlette, or side of plate, go with fish or meat and gravey....
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 19:09:41
January 28 2014 18:26 GMT
#375
Brought my girlfriend along for leg day today. First gym session. She literally squats ass to ankles with flat shoes and a perfectly straight lumbar. My feels when she squats deeper than I can with my new Power Perfect II's . Time to start stretching and foam rolling my hams and calves.

EDIT: @SpikeStarcraft You really don't need 2 cups of veggies with every meal. That's obscene. There's a bunch of competitive bodybuilders at my gym and they eat as veggies for health reasons + fibre requirements. If you eat 2 cups a day that should be fine.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 20:02:25
January 28 2014 19:28 GMT
#376
i think doing girls gymnastics exercises really helps. where you get yourself into a doggy-style position, arch your back like crazy and roll forwards and backwards, move your ass side to side, etc.

the kind of stuff that works towards backbends, bridge, elbow stands, chest stands, and whatever doggy-style back flexing/stretches are called.

girls have sick back mobility but if you try to do any of this shit you realise you can barely even get into a doggy-style stance (kneeling on floor with hands or elbows on bed or on floor) and arching your back feels completely wrong, insufficient and even painful.

practice it and shit like deadlift feels so much better, like your back arches in a better position.

do it in your room tho, no one wants to see a fully grown male shaking his ass in a doggystyle pose

yeah i watched a lot of gymnastic girl youtubes

edit: this shit
+ Show Spoiler +




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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
January 28 2014 20:06 GMT
#377
Back mobility gets overlooked a lot. Check out the MWODs on it on youtube and go to some yoga classes.

Just did sets of 10 squats at 255 265 315 335 365 to see if my body still works after vegas. I almost died on the last set haha but i'm still alive!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 20:15:36
January 28 2014 20:14 GMT
#378
SO I've just figured out that my right leg is somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 of an inch shorter than my left leg. This may or may not be the leading cause of my past hip/back problems, and the imbalance that I still feel in the squat. I always feel like I'm pushing hard with my left leg, and the right is just kinda along for the ride, unless I really focus on that, in which case I don't come up in a straight line.

Anyone have any tips?
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
January 28 2014 20:17 GMT
#379
I thought you saw a chiro? That should've been like the second thing they noticed and told you...

If you haven't, I would go see one. I think they have shoe inserts to help even out the leg lengths. If any of it is from a tilt/twist in your pelvis they try to rotate it back.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-01-28 20:19:26
January 28 2014 20:18 GMT
#380
And yeah that's like one of the first things a chiro looks at for back/hip pain. He should have adjusted your hips, realized that your leg was still longer, and then by like yo bro you got a shorter leg.

On January 29 2014 05:14 phyre112 wrote:
SO I've just figured out that my right leg is somewhere between 1/2 and 3/4 of an inch shorter than my left leg. This may or may not be the leading cause of my past hip/back problems, and the imbalance that I still feel in the squat (always feel like I'm pushing hard with my left leg, and the right is just kinda along for the ride).

I broke it right by the growth plate when I was two, so this is no surprise.

Anyone have any tips?


-New legs
-Smack your two year old self
-Get a cork insert for your lifting shoe of the appropriate length (pretty cheap), or have a cobbler add it to the heel of the shoe itself (find some pics of su dajin's shoes for an example)

In the mean time you can play around with lifting with a plate under the shorter leg. Start identifying the consequent imbalances in your body from different leg length and fix em.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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