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My brother has a very noticeable problem with bending his wrist on a handful of exercises (namely bench/dumbell presses). It's quite a bit worse for his left wrist, and I harp on him all the time to straighten his wrists so that he doesn't injure himself, but he almost always ends up subconsciously sliding his left wrist back into a bend.
How bad is this for him? I'm considering buying him some wrist braces or something of the like for an early birthday present because it makes me cringe every time I see his wrists bent like that. Should I go ahead and do so or is it not as big a deal as I make it out to be? His birthday is at the end of December btw; I feel like that's quite a while to wait if it's going to start damaging his wrist.
If it is something that should be fixed, can someone recommend a glove or wrist brace or something? I would probably be looking at a pair, because even though his left wrist is much worse, his right one still isn't good either.
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Can you find a photo on the internet that would be representative of how much it bends? When I bench, I make a conscious effort to have the bar balanced so that it is in line with my forearm (knuckles straight at ceiling). In that case, the wrist doesn't even bend - so I can't imagine doing a bench with my wrists bent backwards.
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On October 09 2014 06:08 Grobyc wrote:
My brother has a very noticeable problem with bending his wrist on a handful of exercises (namely bench/dumbell presses). It's quite a bit worse for his left wrist, and I harp on him all the time to straighten his wrists so that he doesn't injure himself, but he almost always ends up subconsciously sliding his left wrist back into a bend.
How bad is this for him? I'm considering buying him some wrist braces or something of the like for an early birthday present because it makes me cringe every time I see his wrists bent like that. Should I go ahead and do so or is it not as big a deal as I make it out to be? His birthday is at the end of December btw; I feel like that's quite a while to wait if it's going to start damaging his wrist.
If it is something that should be fixed, can someone recommend a glove or wrist brace or something? I would probably be looking at a pair, because even though his left wrist is much worse, his right one still isn't good either.
If the bar is not over the forearms he could injure himself. If the bar is over his forearms and he doesn't have any pain or serious discomfort after benching, then he is probably fine. Everyone bends their wrists a little during bench, and some people have more wrist mobility than others, so they naturally do it more.
The product you would want are wrist wraps, not a sleeve/brace. They shouldnt be expensive.
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Yeah when he benches his knuckles are definitely not in line with his forearms. That's exactly how I describe to him what it should be when I harp on him.
This basically exactly replicates how how wrist is vs how it should be:
![[image loading]](http://getthisstrength.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/Overhead-press-form-grip-2.jpg)
Would you guys recommend any specific wrist wrap that I could buy online (shipped to Canada)?
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I don't have a specific recommendation, but you dont want wraps that are advertised as comfortable to wear. If you look at the customer reviews and at least some of the customers complain about comfort while praising the amount of support, then those are good.
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metal powerlifting wraps is like having a cast on your wrist, love them.
OHP: 72.5kgx3x8 (massive PR)
FS: 105kgx3x6, 110kgx3x6
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i bench from my wrist - its not the wrist tho, its still the palm of the hand just at a dif angle . it looks bad to others but is fine for centre of gravity and strength.
probably mobility thing to begin with . but now just what i do
(i do it less this time around now maybe i stopped it altogether)
i wud encourage him to try to straighten it coz using that bent style probably gives an easier, lazier range of motion for the bench. he will find benching a bit/lot harder but its probably a case where its better to conform to common standard or at least try it out for a while. just tell him if he finds it easier that way then probably he is cheating !! lol
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On October 09 2014 05:45 JinDesu wrote:
"First of all, yes he's fine. Secondly, what happened here is that he had the bar too close to his neck and it pressed on his carotid artery which caused him to pass out. This is what is known as a "blood choke" and it can make you pass out in as little as 8 seconds. "
"the whole point of a squat cage is to be INSIDE OF IT with the safety rods in place. if you ask me, this is their fault completely. this is what happens when you dont use equipment properly...."
Gotta admit.. good to learn the first one, but everyone should really know that second one...
It's common practice to do front squats and back squats outside the rack with bumper plates for olympic lifters. It's very easy to dump the weight and there's enough clearance for your body under the bar. People pass out in between the clean and jerk during competition every now and again, haven't heard of anyone getting hurt from it though. He should have a) racked the bar better or b) dumped it or readjusted his grip when he got lightheaded.
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May I ask why? Is there a certain benefit of doing it outside the rack?
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Ability to safely dump the weight is important.
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I always felt that I could dump the weight safer inside the rack than if I were outside it (especially for people around me). Is there a concern that I should be aware about?
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When you're in the open you only have to worry about one object and yourself. Unless you go walking off the platform or something.
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Man, counting calories is hard work. I must be doing something wrong. If I make dinner with 80g of rice and 120g of pork tenderloin, plus some veggies and spices I only end up with some 400-500 calories? If thats true, and my usual lunches arent really that much bigger it appears I'm only eating 1000-1200 calories per day, which at 80kgs cant possibly be true. Clearly I'm making some major mistake in counting the calories of my meals...
Any ideas?
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On October 10 2014 03:52 Catch]22 wrote:
Man, counting calories is hard work. I must be doing something wrong. If I make dinner with 80g of rice and 120g of pork tenderloin, plus some veggies and spices I only end up with some 400-500 calories? If thats true, and my usual lunches arent really that much bigger it appears I'm only eating 1000-1200 calories per day, which at 80kgs cant possibly be true. Clearly I'm making some major mistake in counting the calories of my meals...
Any ideas?
The specific meal is indeed about that. But seeing as you are still alive I would think you also eat other things on an average day. Make sure to also count cooking oils/butter, that gets missed a lot.
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On October 10 2014 03:52 Catch]22 wrote:
Man, counting calories is hard work. I must be doing something wrong. If I make dinner with 80g of rice and 120g of pork tenderloin, plus some veggies and spices I only end up with some 400-500 calories? If thats true, and my usual lunches arent really that much bigger it appears I'm only eating 1000-1200 calories per day, which at 80kgs cant possibly be true. Clearly I'm making some major mistake in counting the calories of my meals...
Any ideas?
Is that exactly literally everything you eat a day? No snacks, no protein shakes, etc? And you don't feel hungry for extended periods of time?
And is that 80g of cooked or uncooked rice?
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Right, forgot about cooking oils, I guess that adds about another 100 to each meal. And eating lunch, there is usually a sauce that I guess would probably be worth about 'nother 100.
Other than that, only a few coffees with tiny splashes of milk...
And yeah, I measure the rice before cooking it (I measure what I cook before I throw it in pots, after being trimmed etc)
I get the feeling that I'm still missing something, because I cant possibly be living on only 1400 kcals per day? Lunches are extra difficult to gauge since I cant weigh the parts at all because I always eat out. I guess I'll have to get better at gauging amounts of rice/potatoes/meat using sight.
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No breakfast? 1400cal a day should be making you drop a pound a week or so... you can live on it up to a point (when you run out of weight to lose, ish).
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On October 10 2014 06:17 Catch]22 wrote:
I get the feeling that I'm still missing something, because I cant possibly be living on only 1400 kcals per day? Lunches are extra difficult to gauge since I cant weigh the parts at all because I always eat out. I guess I'll have to get better at gauging amounts of rice/potatoes/meat using sight.
I don't know about your lunch options of course, but from my experience a typical cafeteria plate is easily 600 calories+, even when it's just lean meat and veggies with sauce. The cheaper the food, the more fats and sugars are added to everything without you noticing. Unless they state calories per meal (and you trust them) estimating calories from eating out is really just guessing.
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On October 10 2014 03:52 Catch]22 wrote:
Man, counting calories is hard work. I must be doing something wrong. If I make dinner with 80g of rice and 120g of pork tenderloin, plus some veggies and spices I only end up with some 400-500 calories? If thats true, and my usual lunches arent really that much bigger it appears I'm only eating 1000-1200 calories per day, which at 80kgs cant possibly be true. Clearly I'm making some major mistake in counting the calories of my meals...
Any ideas?
I count calories religiously and if I eat 100g of meat I have to add around 240g of pasta/rice if I want to get enough calories in a meal (I just eat a breakfast plus two meals a day, not doing the 6 meals a day thing). If I add veggies I only need around 200g of pasta but still that is very far from 80g. And I'm not even "bulking" that hard these days, my weight has been quite stable for two months now.
So yes it seems to me like you are not eating enough at all, but I would suspect that you eat way more calories than you imagine when you eat outside because otherwise your weight should be dropping very rapidly and you shouldn't feel good when you lift.
This is just from my experience though, in no way am I a food/human body expert.
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I would consider taking what you eat right now, maintaining that and keep track of your weight. If your weight stays the same then you have found your maintenance calories, call it X. Then for bulking you just eat X+300/day, and for cutting you will eat X-300. If that doesn't more the scale up after two weeks then add/cut another 300 kcals.
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