EPTIt should be natural to keep your spine in a neutral position, brace your abs, and squeeze your glutes. The problem is that most modern humans have extremely broken motor patterns, poor body control, little mind-muscle connection, and shabby mobility. So when they can't even set up for the deadlift with a tight back, they are going to be in trouble.
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
It should be natural to keep your spine in a neutral position, brace your abs, and squeeze your glutes. The problem is that most modern humans have extremely broken motor patterns, poor body control, little mind-muscle connection, and shabby mobility. So when they can't even set up for the deadlift with a tight back, they are going to be in trouble. | ||
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IgnE
United States7681 Posts
On October 07 2014 21:59 farvacola wrote: Chiros are not better than an MD, there just happen to be relatively few doctors with up to date sports medicine training. Chiropractic therapy is like eye drops or chap stick; they are ok if used once in a while, but if you make it a frequent habit, your body will come to depend on the therapy and you might find your pains become worse in the interim. I make cracking my back on a PVC roller a habit. If I can't get to the gym or don't do any mobility work for a few days I feel terrible. Are you saying I'm dependent and that my pains are becoming worse in the interim???????? | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
On October 08 2014 10:43 IgnE wrote: I don't think about my back when deadlifting either. I wouldn't even mention the back rounding in those videos you posted when thinking about "rounded back deadlifts". Those videos show rounding that is very different from the egregious, cringe-inducing rounding I see at the gym from noobs all the time. It should be natural to keep your spine in a neutral position, brace your abs, and squeeze your glutes. The problem is that most modern humans have extremely broken motor patterns, poor body control, little mind-muscle connection, and shabby mobility. So when they can't even set up for the deadlift with a tight back, they are going to be in trouble. :D:D We are on the same page then, it just tilts me to no end when people think deadlift = clean pulls. | ||
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IgnE
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decafchicken
United States20020 Posts
On October 08 2014 10:18 GoTuNk! wrote: Yeah, what I disagree with everyone is people pretending to deadlift with the entire back straight; that's just not possible with heavy weights. The upper back rounding lets you recruit your lats and abs more (protects the lower back), while also improving leverages (taking more strain off the lower back) I always deadlift with my back "rounded" and I've never had any discomfort. My back has only hurt from heavy back squats. FWIW I don't think about my back curbature, I get my abs as tight as possible, push the floor and then squeeze the glutes. This seems to keep my lower back straight? Would def like to know your opinion on the vids. Bracing the abs and glutes sets your lower spine neutral and protects it (provided the proper amount of strength). Most people are fucking terrible at this. Also great semi relevant article: http://www.t-nation.com/training/dispelling-the-glute-myth | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
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IgnE
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zatic
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Osmoses
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On October 08 2014 17:39 Osmoses wrote: Yeah no I'm not as bad as the guy in that video lol, my thoraic spine just has a slight bend to it at the bottom which I'm not really sure about. It isn't a problem to lift like that, a lot of big lifters intentionally round at the bottom of the lift, becuase it is just more efficient to do so. But if you can't straighten at the bottom, you should stretch more, is what it comes down to. | ||
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eLyx
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
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Crushinator
Netherlands2138 Posts
On October 08 2014 19:46 JinDesu wrote: I hate doing barbell hip thrusts. It sucks having the weight sit on my hip, and my gym doesn't have any padding that I can put to help. Bring your own padding, if you must. Foam pipe insulation sleeves from any DIY shop will do. | ||
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mordek
United States12704 Posts
On October 08 2014 19:35 eLyx wrote: What mobility exercises would you guys recommend to fix hamstring range of motion? Mine is fucking awful and i really need to do something about it. There's lots of hamstring stretches but one of the best mobilizations for your hamstrings is flossing them with a lacrosse ball: I did some one-arm deadlifts today. Pretty novel so that's nice  It's definitely challenging to not have it tip one way or the other. | ||
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
On October 08 2014 21:18 Crushinator wrote: Bring your own padding, if you must. Foam pipe insulation sleeves from any DIY shop will do. Yeah I'm starting to look into that. Originally I disliked bringing extra things with me to the gym because I have a very forgetful nature and I tend to leave things behind that I don't normally use. | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
Just like leg presses won't necessary bring up your squat. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20020 Posts
On October 09 2014 00:48 GoTuNk! wrote: Hip thrusts may or may not help with your deadlift, just because you are targeting a muscle that works in the deadlift it doesn't mean it will bring it up; doing assistance work instead of the main lift is prolly bad idea. Just like leg presses won't necessary bring up your squat. Obviously you wouldn't replace deadlifts with hip thrusts. It would be a good supplementary exercise though. | ||
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Kronen
United States732 Posts
Be warned though... it's scary to watch. I don't know how the guy fared after the fall... | ||
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Osmoses
Sweden5302 Posts
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JinDesu
United States3990 Posts
"the whole point of a squat cage is to be INSIDE OF IT with the safety rods in place. if you ask me, this is their fault completely. this is what happens when you dont use equipment properly...." Gotta admit.. good to learn the first one, but everyone should really know that second one... | ||
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