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Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
September 16 2014 03:28 GMT
#2581
Haven't posted here in a while. I pretty much post daily on instagram (@marcord18). I've spent the last couple of months trying to fix some technique stuff (uneven catch on snatch and clean, leaning forward too much on squats, footwork on snatch, etc). Some of them have become better, my catch on the snatch looks a lot more even now, at least most of the time. But I can't fix it for cleans and front squats. I don't feel it during the lift but it looks awful on front shot videos. I guess it's a muscular imbalance? I can't quite pin point what it is though. Help? This is just a front squat but the same thing happens when I clean, to a lesser degree maybe but still it hurts my chances of making the jerk.

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http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 16 2014 03:45 GMT
#2582
Are you right handed? Do you mouse with your right hand a lot?
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Donkeys
Profile Joined August 2010
Mexico308 Posts
September 16 2014 03:49 GMT
#2583
On September 16 2014 12:45 IgnE wrote:
Are you right handed? Do you mouse with your right hand a lot?


Yeah right handed. Not a lot of mouse though. Could it be just overall left side weakness? I can do pistol squats with my right leg, but not with the left. When I press/push press/bench it's even though.
http://www.belowtherimyo.blogspot.com/
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 06:37:40
September 16 2014 06:37 GMT
#2584
do you lie on 1 side in bed?
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
September 16 2014 07:23 GMT
#2585
yo does anyone sumo deadlift here? i tried it the other day after forgetting about it forever, and it seemed like it required 5% the ankle flexibility of regular deadlift.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 16 2014 08:02 GMT
#2586
You shouldn't be flexing your ankles on deadlift. Shins should be vertical.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
September 16 2014 11:35 GMT
#2587
Finally got around to buying a pair of decent shoes: Adidas Power Perfect II. Immediately broke a power clean PR. I am totally going to put that solely on the purchase.

I think it'll still take some time getting used to squatting in them though. Especially front squats felt really awkward.
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 12:03:21
September 16 2014 11:58 GMT
#2588
I've been rowing for about two weeks now and I'm in the selection for the 1st year heavyweight boat. Training 7x on top of my EC's and full-time studying + grad school apps but having a blast rowing (and I look amazing in leggings, hue). Hoping to get even bigger abs and legs; unfortunately my 45" chest won't be getting any bigger this year.
Get huge or die mirin | Diamond on LoL
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20161 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-16 13:50:56
September 16 2014 13:50 GMT
#2589
On September 16 2014 12:28 Donkeys wrote:
Haven't posted here in a while. I pretty much post daily on instagram (@marcord18). I've spent the last couple of months trying to fix some technique stuff (uneven catch on snatch and clean, leaning forward too much on squats, footwork on snatch, etc). Some of them have become better, my catch on the snatch looks a lot more even now, at least most of the time. But I can't fix it for cleans and front squats. I don't feel it during the lift but it looks awful on front shot videos. I guess it's a muscular imbalance? I can't quite pin point what it is though. Help? This is just a front squat but the same thing happens when I clean, to a lesser degree maybe but still it hurts my chances of making the jerk.

Unrack:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Bottom:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Recovery:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Do some isolation work till you find out what it is. It's probably going to be something in your hips, core, or rotator cuff. You're probably just not naturally activating something you should be or it's really tight and compensating accordingly. Yoga is great for identifying this shit.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 17 2014 01:21 GMT
#2590
Moved to a new city and found a place nearby that has a weightlifting team. Signed up to the gym today and have to go through 10 coaching sessions before I'm a full member but I'm really looking forward to it.
steelANDmalice
Profile Joined October 2011
87 Posts
September 17 2014 02:10 GMT
#2591
paused squats up to 575 PR. 565 went up like nothing. but 575 my feet shifted and likely caused the lift to be harder still gonna make a 10lb jumps until 605 and do high box squats at 18-20 inches for acc work.

ACC work:
- reverse hyper 20lbs 3x12
- russian leg curls 3x5
- hanging leg raises 3x12






decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20161 Posts
September 17 2014 04:06 GMT
#2592
On September 17 2014 10:21 Najda wrote:
Moved to a new city and found a place nearby that has a weightlifting team. Signed up to the gym today and have to go through 10 coaching sessions before I'm a full member but I'm really looking forward to it.


Where at?
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 17 2014 08:41 GMT
#2593
On September 17 2014 11:10 steelANDmalice wrote:
paused squats up to 575 PR. 565 went up like nothing. but 575 my feet shifted and likely caused the lift to be harder still gonna make a 10lb jumps until 605 and do high box squats at 18-20 inches for acc work.

ACC work:
- reverse hyper 20lbs 3x12
- russian leg curls 3x5
- hanging leg raises 3x12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9iloR_LPbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkdkHQwMeug




That 575 squat looked rough man but you made it up. I think you can tighten up your walk out a lot. You shouldn't be taking 2 or 3 steps back with close to 600 lbs on your back. You want to be able to do 1,2 steps back from the rack with your feet in the same spot all the time. Walking back without sure footing with that much weight can wipe you out before you even do the lift, and can be dangerous.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
Maluk
Profile Joined August 2011
France987 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 11:34:38
September 17 2014 11:26 GMT
#2594
I took a closer look at the Texas method as I am building my new weightlifting program, and I'm not sure what Rippetoe (the author of the method) means when he's talking about the deadlift load. He says the following (in an article on T Nation) :

Monday: Volume Day
A. Squat: 5 x 5 @ 90% of 5RM
B. Bench Press or Overhead Press: 5 x 5 @ 90% 5RM
C. Deadlift: 1 x 5 @ 90% 5RM

[...] There is no volume day for deadlifts, because deadlifts are too hard —you can'trecover from them if you do more than one heavy set. (This is especially true if you're doing 5 x 5 squats, too.)

Experience with this has shown that it's best to do justone heavy set of five deadlifts on Monday, after squats and benches or overhead presses are finished. It won't be a "true" 5RM, since it follows all the squat work, but it should increase every week.


From what I understand, you actually have to deadlift as much as you can on Monday, but it will only represent 90% of what you could achieve if you went to the gym, warmed up and did deadlifts directly, because you will have accumulated fatigue from the very intense squats and OHP/bench presses that you performed before the deadlift.

Which means that, for the first deadlift you will ever do with the Texas Method, you calculate the load based on the 5RM that you had before you switched to the Texas Method. And from there you should try to add 5 pounds every week.

Am I interpreting this correctly ?
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
September 17 2014 12:26 GMT
#2595
On September 17 2014 13:06 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 10:21 Najda wrote:
Moved to a new city and found a place nearby that has a weightlifting team. Signed up to the gym today and have to go through 10 coaching sessions before I'm a full member but I'm really looking forward to it.


Where at?


The place is called tampa bay athletics. Tbh it kind of seems like a crossfit gym minus the title but they do have a specific weightlifting section and coaches. It's kind of costly but it's cheaper since I'm a student and is less than I was paying for muay thai before I moved anyway.

Side note, my school has 40k people and one general access gym with 3 power racks so there's always a line. The athlete's gym has 8 power racks and platforms with bumper plates and everything but I'm not allowed in unfortunately. And there's no weightlifting team or even a club.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20161 Posts
September 17 2014 14:02 GMT
#2596
On September 17 2014 17:41 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2014 11:10 steelANDmalice wrote:
paused squats up to 575 PR. 565 went up like nothing. but 575 my feet shifted and likely caused the lift to be harder still gonna make a 10lb jumps until 605 and do high box squats at 18-20 inches for acc work.

ACC work:
- reverse hyper 20lbs 3x12
- russian leg curls 3x5
- hanging leg raises 3x12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9iloR_LPbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkdkHQwMeug




That 575 squat looked rough man but you made it up. I think you can tighten up your walk out a lot. You shouldn't be taking 2 or 3 steps back with close to 600 lbs on your back. You want to be able to do 1,2 steps back from the rack with your feet in the same spot all the time. Walking back without sure footing with that much weight can wipe you out before you even do the lift, and can be dangerous.


pffft nonsense. Just do the russian method: walk out three steps with 750 on your back and dump that shit after crushing out a few reps:


But sick grind on that 575, nice job.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20161 Posts
September 17 2014 14:02 GMT
#2597
On September 17 2014 20:26 Maluk wrote:
I took a closer look at the Texas method as I am building my new weightlifting program, and I'm not sure what Rippetoe (the author of the method) means when he's talking about the deadlift load. He says the following (in an article on T Nation) :

Show nested quote +
Monday: Volume Day
A. Squat: 5 x 5 @ 90% of 5RM
B. Bench Press or Overhead Press: 5 x 5 @ 90% 5RM
C. Deadlift: 1 x 5 @ 90% 5RM

[...] There is no volume day for deadlifts, because deadlifts are too hard —you can'trecover from them if you do more than one heavy set. (This is especially true if you're doing 5 x 5 squats, too.)

Experience with this has shown that it's best to do justone heavy set of five deadlifts on Monday, after squats and benches or overhead presses are finished. It won't be a "true" 5RM, since it follows all the squat work, but it should increase every week.


From what I understand, you actually have to deadlift as much as you can on Monday, but it will only represent 90% of what you could achieve if you went to the gym, warmed up and did deadlifts directly, because you will have accumulated fatigue from the very intense squats and OHP/bench presses that you performed before the deadlift.

Which means that, for the first deadlift you will ever do with the Texas Method, you calculate the load based on the 5RM that you had before you switched to the Texas Method. And from there you should try to add 5 pounds every week.

Am I interpreting this correctly ?


Yes.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
September 17 2014 14:57 GMT
#2598
On September 17 2014 11:10 steelANDmalice wrote:
paused squats up to 575 PR. 565 went up like nothing. but 575 my feet shifted and likely caused the lift to be harder still gonna make a 10lb jumps until 605 and do high box squats at 18-20 inches for acc work.

ACC work:
- reverse hyper 20lbs 3x12
- russian leg curls 3x5
- hanging leg raises 3x12

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9iloR_LPbo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GkdkHQwMeug




Why on earth are you squatting barefoot, get some romaloes! :D
steelANDmalice
Profile Joined October 2011
87 Posts
September 17 2014 23:17 GMT
#2599
I would rather take the 3rd step and set my feet right then going just 2 and being like 'meh close enough' also with weight light enough to do paused sets isn't much of a problem walking out,

@ Gotunk - can't afford romaloes although that would be sweet though, or mark bells rebok power shoes.
@ Decaf/Gotunk - Looks as though my upper back caves in a little where I stalled, maybe some front squats as acc work?
IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-17 23:29:34
September 17 2014 23:26 GMT
#2600
On September 18 2014 08:17 steelANDmalice wrote:
I would rather take the 3rd step and set my feet right then going just 2 and being like 'meh close enough' also with weight light enough to do paused sets isn't much of a problem walking out,

@ Gotunk - can't afford romaloes although that would be sweet though, or mark bells rebok power shoes.
@ Decaf/Gotunk - Looks as though my upper back caves in a little where I stalled, maybe some front squats as acc work?


I'm saying you can practice your walk out with those weights so when you go to 600 or more you don't have to worry about it. Yeah, take a third step if you didn't get it right the first time but it's better to get it right than not. If you are planning on competing or something and lifting at max it's just something I noticed that is an easy fix and adds pounds. This is one reason why actual powerlifters use that crane to hold the weight so they don't actually have to walk the weight out at all.

Not squatting in socks would probably help your back from caving in because you won't be doing as much of a good morning.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
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