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Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
March 04 2014 09:05 GMT
#4201
On March 04 2014 13:45 zev318 wrote:
twolves with the ref bribe gad damn those FT attempts lol

Definitely an odd box score, 25 fouls called on the Denver starting 5 in a regulation game. Did anyone watch it? Many phantom calls?
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-04 20:15:14
March 04 2014 20:13 GMT
#4202
http://cjzero.com/gifs/TyLawsonWrecksCoreyBrewerAnkles.gif
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 03:30:37
March 05 2014 02:02 GMT
#4203
thank god we only play miami once...these calls

the flopping in this game is too damn high, including harden.

wow. 13 points to beasley in q4, 3 points up with possession and 10 seconds left...bad pass...LOL

oh my god...lebron didn't do a replicate of warriors on us. PHEW
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 05 2014 09:22 GMT
#4204
Lol that pass was so terrible. Luckily it didn't cost them in the end.
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
March 05 2014 15:21 GMT
#4205
Big win for Rockets, but they are so up and down. 39 points in the first quarter, then they are held to 2 points for like 6 minutes in the 2nd... Lin has really been struggling lately, which is even more of a problem with Brooks traded away.

This was the start of a tough stretch. Orlando should be easy tonight, but then they have the Pacers, Blazers, and Thunder before a rematch with the Heat in Miami on the 16th.
MassHysteria
Profile Joined October 2010
United States3678 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-05 22:24:09
March 05 2014 22:22 GMT
#4206
Simmons is a little late but in his mailbag this week he goes in on Stern in a very similar fashion to how Jason Whitlock did weeks ago. Whitlock posed it as more of a question, while Simmons has been more straight-out. But it is important to note that it is more appropriate/obvious to criticize Stern now than it was back then, which is why it was so good (in my mind) back then.

Simmons (and the bigger reach he has than Whitlock) also does a good/entertaining job with similar arguments:
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The league’s creative paralysis from 2008 through 2013 had a built-in excuse: David Stern stayed five years too long. He only allowed innovation that involved the words “digital” or “international.” He stopped taking chances, stopped thinking outside the box, stopped trying to grow the game domestically. He bristled anytime someone questioned him, held on to petty grudges, bullied people behind the scenes and protected the wrong people.

Stern executed his own kind of blueprint: the Here’s What Happens When You Stay Too Long blueprint. Even his “retirement” lasted an absurdly long time: nearly 18 months in all, as Stern chased and conquered Pete Rozelle’s meaningless “longest tenure by a commissioner” record. He should have exited last June — after an incredible Finals and a bizarrely entertaining draft in Brooklyn — in what could have been something of a victory lap. Instead, he hung around for eight more awkward months. Everyone assumed that Stern would stay as the league’s unofficial international ambassador, feasting on a cushy gig that allowed him to traipse around the world (India, China, Australia — you name it), while pushing the sport abroad. That job never materialized. The dirty secret of Stern’s last 18 months was that, as much as the 30 owners respected him, they also believed it was time for him to leave. And somehow, the smartest guy in the room was the last guy who realized it.

Adam Silver’s first month in charge was distinguished mostly by how hastily Silver distanced himself from his old mentor. Many of Stern’s administrative cronies had already been forced out, and Stern’s surprising absence from All-Star Weekend in New Orleans wasn’t exactly random. A new generation has emerged behind the scenes, with Silver flanked by new assistant commish Mark Tatum (a beloved hire), NBA Entertainment honcho Danny Meiseles, merchandising guru Sal LaRocca, global media head Bill Koenig, and Adam’s right-hand man, Jarad Franzreb, among others. The current group of owners with the most influence — ranging from the old guard (Peter Holt and the Reinsdorfs) to the newer old guard (Stan Kroenke, James Dolan, Wyc Grousbeck, Mark Cuban, Ted Leonsis) to the new guys (Vivek Ranadive, Joe Lacob) — all believe in Silver and have his back, both publicly and privately. They like the guy. That’s not a sentence you heard about David Stern very often.

Truth be told, Stern would have stayed in office even longer if some of those owners hadn’t gently nudged him out. With a monster television deal coming, digital content booming and live events becoming the most valuable media rights property — especially with multiple 24-hour sports networks and local cable superstations that need hundreds of hours of airtime to fill — the league itself has never been stronger. It didn’t just win the last collective bargaining agreement; it destroyed the players and checkmated a fractured union. Do you realize that Brian McCann signed for more guaranteed money this winter than LeBron’s last contract? It’s no accident that, other than maybe Milwaukee, ZERO professional basketball teams are for sale. Seattle has two billionaires willing to double the sticker price for a handful of the 30 teams; nobody is biting. Throw in LeBron and Durant — the best rivalry, potentially, since Bird and Magic — and all the other star-studded contenders, and it’s an amazing time to run a basketball league.

Silver and his owners believe that there’s a real window here — thanks to the concussion crisis in football and the execrable length of baseball games — for the NBA to seize the reins and become America’s new pastime. There’s a reason the new commish mentioned this publicly more than once. His owners want to hear a little less about “growing the sport abroad” and a little more about “building the sport domestically.” Other than the way he treated people and carried himself, that was their single biggest issue with Stern.

And that’s why this tanking bullshit matters. When 36 percent of your league is willfully throwing away the last five weeks of an 82-game season, you’re doing something wrong. Stern stuck his head in the sand. He pretended self-sabotage wasn’t a recurring danger, just like he pretended the broken officiating system was fine … and the always-disappointing All-Star Saturday was fine … and the annoying 2-3-2 Finals format was fine … and the stunning lack of minority league executives at every CBA bargaining table was fine … and the embarrassing Chris Paul trade veto was fine … and The Decision was fine … and the Maloofs destroying basketball in Sacramento to the point that the fans had to revolt was fine … and Clay Bennett extorting Seattle for a new arena and ultimately hijacking the team was fine … and the league owning the New Orleans franchise as it landed the no. 1 overall pick was fine … and starting off Silver’s commissioner transition by hovering over him for an extra eight months was fine.

.....
"Just ban all the J's...even jinklejoes" --unnamed source
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 06 2014 04:56 GMT
#4207
"Ariza has made a ridiculous 4.1 triples per game over his last 10 on an unfathomable 63.1 percent from that range."

i'm going to guess contract year?
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Zorkmid
Profile Joined November 2008
4410 Posts
March 06 2014 06:11 GMT
#4208
On March 04 2014 12:32 Dogfoodboy16 wrote:
...and people still say MJ is better than Lebron. Those old fogies better wake up and smell the coffee!


Yea dropping 61 on the bobcats, best single game performance ever. Easily.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 06 2014 06:42 GMT
#4209
Damn, Korver's epic 3 Point Streak comes to an end
Doraemon
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Australia14949 Posts
March 06 2014 08:33 GMT
#4210
On March 06 2014 15:42 AxionSteel wrote:
Damn, Korver's epic 3 Point Streak comes to an end


i know...what does atlanta have left ot play for now? lol
Do yourself a favour and just STFU
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-06 10:33:50
March 06 2014 10:32 GMT
#4211
It's tank time in Atlanta imo, they're a shadow of their former selves without Horford and Teague can't handle the extra usage.

On March 06 2014 13:56 Doraemon wrote:
"Ariza has made a ridiculous 4.1 triples per game over his last 10 on an unfathomable 63.1 percent from that range."

i'm going to guess contract year?

He's been first round value the last month in my fantasy league. Started the season on waivers....
Yhamm is the god of predictions
RowdierBob
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
Australia13536 Posts
March 06 2014 11:09 GMT
#4212
Shots fired!

"Terrans are pretty much space-Australians" - H
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 06 2014 11:59 GMT
#4213
Lol, so casual.
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16129 Posts
March 06 2014 14:17 GMT
#4214
On March 06 2014 19:32 Scarecrow wrote:
It's tank time in Atlanta imo, they're a shadow of their former selves without Horford and Teague can't handle the extra usage.

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On March 06 2014 13:56 Doraemon wrote:
"Ariza has made a ridiculous 4.1 triples per game over his last 10 on an unfathomable 63.1 percent from that range."

i'm going to guess contract year?

He's been first round value the last month in my fantasy league. Started the season on waivers....


Tanking for them is almost impossible at this point.

Even without Horford they are still way better than the bottom half of the Eastern Conference. I mean hell there's still 5 teams in the Eastern Conference that have records as bad or worse than the Lakers. If Atlanta decided to start tanking now, the best they could do is 10th place.
aka: KTVindicare the Geeky Bartender
karazax
Profile Joined May 2010
United States3737 Posts
March 06 2014 21:30 GMT
#4215
Some times I wonder if the NBA wouldn't be better off doing NCAA style seeding for the playoffs.

The lottery is part of the problem causing intentional tanking, but so are the conferences. Bad teams in the east make the playoffs because their conference is bad, and with no high lottery picks, and no incentives for top free agents to come, they stay bad. Good teams in the west barely miss the playoffs and get better picks, staying just good enough to compete, but not good enough to really contend.

So, are conferences outdated? What if you just did NCAA style seeding?

By that I mean forget conference, seed by overall record into 2 brackets. Something like having the top team overall vs bottom team overall, 2nd best vs 2nd worse, ect. You could have matchups like these to look forward to:

1st bracket:
1 vs 16 = Indiana vs Brooklyn
7 vs 10 = Clippers vs Phoenix
3 vs 14 = OKC vs Washington
5 vs 12 = Portland vs Toronto

2nd bracket:
2 vs 15 = Miami vs Minnesota
8 vs 9 = Dallas vs Golden State
4 vs 13 = San Antonio vs Chicago
6 vs 11 = Houston vs Memphis

Only the worst 2 teams would have losing records at the moment in that set up, and the chances of locking up a spot where a game at the end of the season didn't matter at all would be significantly less. The playoffs would be more competitive from top to bottom, and no one gets an "easy" path to the finals due to a weak conference.
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
March 06 2014 21:45 GMT
#4216
Out of all teams Knicks have to beat the T-wolves FML.
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
March 06 2014 23:51 GMT
#4217
On March 07 2014 06:30 karazax wrote:
Some times I wonder if the NBA wouldn't be better off doing NCAA style seeding for the playoffs.

The lottery is part of the problem causing intentional tanking, but so are the conferences. Bad teams in the east make the playoffs because their conference is bad, and with no high lottery picks, and no incentives for top free agents to come, they stay bad. Good teams in the west barely miss the playoffs and get better picks, staying just good enough to compete, but not good enough to really contend.

So, are conferences outdated? What if you just did NCAA style seeding?

By that I mean forget conference, seed by overall record into 2 brackets. Something like having the top team overall vs bottom team overall, 2nd best vs 2nd worse, ect. You could have matchups like these to look forward to:

1st bracket:
1 vs 16 = Indiana vs Brooklyn
7 vs 10 = Clippers vs Phoenix
3 vs 14 = OKC vs Washington
5 vs 12 = Portland vs Toronto

2nd bracket:
2 vs 15 = Miami vs Minnesota
8 vs 9 = Dallas vs Golden State
4 vs 13 = San Antonio vs Chicago
6 vs 11 = Houston vs Memphis

Only the worst 2 teams would have losing records at the moment in that set up, and the chances of locking up a spot where a game at the end of the season didn't matter at all would be significantly less. The playoffs would be more competitive from top to bottom, and no one gets an "easy" path to the finals due to a weak conference.

Yeah, no one gives a shit about east vs west at all, there's really no point to it. It's also unfair to a lot of teams.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
March 07 2014 00:05 GMT
#4218
Yep. And since shitty GMs will always be around to screw teams over you might as well find a way to work around them. If the league wont eliminate the draft, changing playoff seeding (and payouts for the draft) is worth a look. I'm also starting to believe that soccer style relegation is needed to put pressure on these owners that don't care about winning.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
March 07 2014 00:41 GMT
#4219
I find it amazing that you constantly bash GMs for being stupid and teams for being cheap and then find no fault whatsoever in all the extra-CBA factors that came into building the Heat. How can you POSSIBLY judge teams for being bad when they didn't even have a fair shot to begin with?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-07 00:50:58
March 07 2014 00:49 GMT
#4220
I'd contest that the Nets never had a shot because Billie King is the GM, not because of the market they play in, and it's a big one.

GM's like the Presti obviously are at a disadvantage because of the market and must develop their talent, but that's just a way of the world. The thing is, playing in a big market isn't a guarantee to victory if your GM is a moron.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
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