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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
May 11 2013 13:05 GMT
#661
On May 11 2013 22:04 shiroiusagi wrote:
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On May 11 2013 22:03 Aristodemus wrote:
Great job Nico, well done. Based on what happened Friday though I think this is Kimi's race to lose.


What happened Friday?

Both Lotus' had insane race pace.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 11 2013 13:15 GMT
#662
On May 11 2013 22:05 Aristodemus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 22:04 shiroiusagi wrote:
On May 11 2013 22:03 Aristodemus wrote:
Great job Nico, well done. Based on what happened Friday though I think this is Kimi's race to lose.


What happened Friday?

Both Lotus' had insane race pace.


I think mercedes have been hiding theirs, hoping for Hamilton to win tommorow.
Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
May 11 2013 13:17 GMT
#663
On May 11 2013 22:15 Zaros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2013 22:05 Aristodemus wrote:
On May 11 2013 22:04 shiroiusagi wrote:
On May 11 2013 22:03 Aristodemus wrote:
Great job Nico, well done. Based on what happened Friday though I think this is Kimi's race to lose.


What happened Friday?

Both Lotus' had insane race pace.


I think mercedes have been hiding theirs, hoping for Hamilton to win tommorow.

I am hoping they can hang on too but I have serious doubts. The Lotus' ran in 28/9s while Merc were in the 31/32s. Alonso looked quick too.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Yorke
Profile Joined November 2010
England881 Posts
May 11 2013 15:31 GMT
#664
Holy Gods Mercedes, where did that come from!?
@YorkeSC - RIP MIT Police Officer Sean Collier, BW fan
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
May 12 2013 13:43 GMT
#665
Meh, Raikonnen should have won this. He lost too much time behind Hamilton and then Vettel, unlike Alonso. Kimi should work on opening laps if he doesnt want to end up 2nd all the time.
Pity for Grosjean but nice race overall and good results WDCtitlefightwise. Merc should focus on 2014 already...
oh in the sun sun having fun
shiroiusagi
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
May 12 2013 13:46 GMT
#666
Well I am happy with the outcome as long as Vettel isn't on podium. ^^ Nice to see Massa on podium.
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Zaros
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom3692 Posts
May 12 2013 13:50 GMT
#667
Awful from the merc, how can they be so fast in quali and this slow in the race?
flexgd
Profile Joined September 2011
183 Posts
May 12 2013 13:52 GMT
#668
On May 12 2013 22:46 shiroiusagi wrote:
Well I am happy with the outcome as long as Vettel isn't on podium. ^^ Nice to see Massa on podium.


i dont really follow f1 that much but why do so many people dislike him?
VManOfMana
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States764 Posts
May 12 2013 13:56 GMT
#669
He didna pretty douche move on Webber at the beginning of the season.

You should find it by going a few pages back.

Glad to see Gutierrez being competitive. Hope he gets his first points soon.
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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
May 12 2013 13:58 GMT
#670
Well done Fernando, great drive. Yeah Kimi lost this race being held up and Alonso getting past him in turn three (which was awesome). Mercedes need to get James Allison and pick his brains about tyre wear because today was even worse than Bahrain. Unlucky for Gutierrez as he did well today but only managed 11th.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
Juissi
Profile Joined April 2012
Finland209 Posts
May 12 2013 14:04 GMT
#671
On May 12 2013 22:52 flexgd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2013 22:46 shiroiusagi wrote:
Well I am happy with the outcome as long as Vettel isn't on podium. ^^ Nice to see Massa on podium.


i dont really follow f1 that much but why do so many people dislike him?


It's because he has won 3 championships in a row.
vdale
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1173 Posts
May 12 2013 14:09 GMT
#672
That was a boring race. I don't like it that qualifying lost almost all of its importance.

Great drives by Alonso, Raikkonen (after the first lap) and Massa.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
May 12 2013 14:33 GMT
#673
This track is really bad for overtaking, this race was boring last year, and also this year.

Really disliking how tires and strategy are the only thing that seems to matter now, the cars seem super easy to drive consistently, compared to like 8-10 years back.... So now I feel like I'm watching a passive game of starcraft, seeing how everyones' strategies will unfold.

I wanna see racing, not this shit. But Kimi for champion!
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shiroiusagi
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
SoCal, USA3955 Posts
May 12 2013 14:40 GMT
#674
On May 12 2013 23:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
This track is really bad for overtaking, this race was boring last year, and also this year.

Really disliking how tires and strategy are the only thing that seems to matter now, the cars seem super easy to drive consistently, compared to like 8-10 years back.... So now I feel like I'm watching a passive game of starcraft, seeing how everyones' strategies will unfold.

I wanna see racing, not this shit. But Kimi for champion!


I do agree about the tires, this year feels just horrible compared to last year. I don't know how tires were the years before 2012, but this year is sucking with the tires. Might as well Pirelli make the tires from play dough.
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Aristodemus
Profile Joined January 2011
England2010 Posts
May 12 2013 15:02 GMT
#675
Bernie needs to get Michelin back.
once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more
mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-12 16:29:04
May 12 2013 15:19 GMT
#676
On May 12 2013 23:33 FiWiFaKi wrote:
This track is really bad for overtaking, this race was boring last year, and also this year.

Really disliking how tires and strategy are the only thing that seems to matter now, the cars seem super easy to drive consistently, compared to like 8-10 years back.... So now I feel like I'm watching a passive game of starcraft, seeing how everyones' strategies will unfold.

I wanna see racing, not this shit. But Kimi for champion!


Dont agree. Another boring Shumi era? thanks but no.
I like it more than it was few years ago - 2,3 overtaking moves per race, and hoping to get past someone in pits.
I dont rememer when (apart from 2012 ofc) we had so many teams so close on a lap time.
Also Alonsos drive today shows that skill still matters.
oh in the sun sun having fun
Stenstyren
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden619 Posts
May 13 2013 07:16 GMT
#677
Pirelli got the tires wrong for this year and they have publicly said they're sorry for that. They will make new, more durable tires to be first used at Silverstone, so hoping for that!

2012 was an excellent season from the tire standpoint, hoping they can go back to that.

We do not want another Schumacher era, that shit was boring as fuck. People think that awesome tires will lead to exciting overtaking and such? Not true, back when the tires lasted for two GP's there were hardly any overtaking at all.

BUT!
It's Monaco next weekend and that track is not hard on the tires so I'm massively excited for that race!
Stimp
Profile Joined November 2010
South Africa780 Posts
May 13 2013 08:52 GMT
#678
On May 12 2013 22:50 Zaros wrote:
Awful from the merc, how can they be so fast in quali and this slow in the race?


Based on my co workers opinion, the car is so hard on tires it gets them perfect for Q3 to set really good times but when it comes to the race and you need to go for 50+ laps then its too hard on the tires to be any good.

But yeah, this tire stuff is a bit boring.
Don't count your apples before they've... grown
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
May 13 2013 09:39 GMT
#679
On May 13 2013 00:02 Aristodemus wrote:
Bernie needs to get Michelin back.


Bridgestone! 2010 was last time we had no issues! not a problem with them. Coming from someone who works in a tyre wholesale company the best tyres are normally Bridgestone/Hankook/Michelin. My personal preference is Hankook, but i think there was nothing wrong with Bridgestones they had!

Also think F1 people at the top need to figure out what is better and what people actually like to see in a race. As they think "more pit stops and more strategy is better for the fans" when imo the better races are ones where there is only 1 pit stop and everyone is trying to over take eachother and the strategy side of it is actually making sure you qualify as high as possible and the car itself. I know this way you can also see the same people win time after time but id much rather see Alonso vs Vettell vs Kimi every week and maybe add in Rosberg Hamilton Webber Masa Button as well, much more fun (for me)
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mijagi182
Profile Joined March 2011
Poland797 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 13:41:03
May 13 2013 13:39 GMT
#680
On May 13 2013 16:16 Stenstyren wrote:
Pirelli got the tires wrong for this year and they have publicly said they're sorry for that. They will make new, more durable tires to be first used at Silverstone, so hoping for that!

2012 was an excellent season from the tire standpoint, hoping they can go back to that.

We do not want another Schumacher era, that shit was boring as fuck. People think that awesome tires will lead to exciting overtaking and such? Not true, back when the tires lasted for two GP's there were hardly any overtaking at all.

BUT!
It's Monaco next weekend and that track is not hard on the tires so I'm massively excited for that race!


I think Pirelli did to the tires what they was asked for by FIA - there is no reason to blame them much. FIA wanted one more tyre change per race than it was in 2012, they got it. It differs off course depending on track, and lets not forget Barcelona is kind of unique in tire wear regard.

I think i'ts not fair to change regulations in-season just because some teams, that failed to build a car around them ,moan and dont win anymore. Lotus and Ferrari who done their homework well, would be at disadvantadge.
We can be sure that on other tracks that are kinder to tyres Red Bull (whos winning WDC right now btw) will be back there, and Force India/McLaren will be closer too.

As for Mercedes they had shitty race performance last year too. It seems like they never understood Pirellis as well as the other guys with the budget.
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