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On May 09 2013 06:36 Quenchiest wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 05:40 StarStruck wrote:
Um the referees actually do convene quite a bit to discuss many situations. There have always been a lot of questionable calls. It's just tough luck. As for the the throwing in a red flag to argue a call and force them to go to replay? I wouldn't mind that so much. They do huddle in a lot of situations, none of which are penalty calls though. Icings, where the faceoff should be, if a goal should have been allowed, etc. With penalties, as it has always been in the NHL, one ref puts is arm up and calls what he sees and that's the end of the story. It's always ridiculous to me when the ref with the best view of the situation doesn't call a penalty but the other ref all the way up the ice decides to call something. situations like this should result in the two refs talking to eachother to decide if what happened should actually be a penalty. Reffing in all sports has some level of error, but I truly believe the NHL is the worst officiated of all the major leagues. Yes, even worse than the NBA.
What? That is patently absurd. NFL games are routinely decided by the refs and not the players, and no one is ever right in the NBA. Talk about grass-is-always-greener syndrome. NHL ref'ing is awesome compared to those two leagues, especially when it doesn't affect the outcome nearly as much as other sports.
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there may be a walrus in montreal tomorrow night...
but Maple Leaf Square is a total f'n zoo.
what a party.
when Wendel and Darryl were introduced the place shook.
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Jim Raynor, do you have a skyscraper soul?
On May 09 2013 08:45 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
there may be a walrus in montreal tomorrow night...
but Maple Leaf Square is a total f'n zoo.
what a party.
when Wendel and Darryl were introduced the place shook.
don't forget the 20,000 frogs at the Bell Centre
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On May 09 2013 08:14 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:36 Quenchiest wrote:On May 09 2013 05:40 StarStruck wrote:
Um the referees actually do convene quite a bit to discuss many situations. There have always been a lot of questionable calls. It's just tough luck. As for the the throwing in a red flag to argue a call and force them to go to replay? I wouldn't mind that so much. They do huddle in a lot of situations, none of which are penalty calls though. Icings, where the faceoff should be, if a goal should have been allowed, etc. With penalties, as it has always been in the NHL, one ref puts is arm up and calls what he sees and that's the end of the story. It's always ridiculous to me when the ref with the best view of the situation doesn't call a penalty but the other ref all the way up the ice decides to call something. situations like this should result in the two refs talking to eachother to decide if what happened should actually be a penalty. Reffing in all sports has some level of error, but I truly believe the NHL is the worst officiated of all the major leagues. Yes, even worse than the NBA. What? That is patently absurd. NFL games are routinely decided by the refs and not the players, and no one is ever right in the NBA. Talk about grass-is-always-greener syndrome. NHL ref'ing is awesome compared to those two leagues, especially when it doesn't affect the outcome nearly as much as other sports.
Im going with people fandom skew their views. Hell go on reddit and youll see people bitching about that call against in OT against the Canucks (kinda iffy call at best in my opinion but i digress) or for some reason people bitching about the refs in the Hawks/Wild game saying the refs were calling it in the favor of the Hawks when the Hawks killed of 6 powerplays and the Wild looked completely dead and unmotivated.
Now are the refs perfect? No, but theyre human and dont get the benefit of replay and the dozens of angles we as fans watching on TV get to see. If the refs had helmet cams no matter what professional sport and I think the fans would back off a bit if we could have a view from how they are seeing it.
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a hard fought win by my rangers tonight. we came out strong, skated hard, and tied up the series.
good show
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For the junior sabermatricians that think they can use "numbers" to describe an NHL goalie's performance the way you can describe a pitcher's performance.....I can name 100's of examples but i'll keep it simple by the "numbers" Billy Smith and Glenn Resch are the same goalie.
If I get a reply saying I picked a special case.. I'll list off 100 more goalies whose "career average" means pretty much nuttin'
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On May 09 2013 11:46 KelianQatar wrote:
For the junior sabermatricians that think they can use "numbers" to describe an NHL goalie's performance the way you can describe a pitcher's performance.....I can name 100's of examples but i'll keep it simple by the "numbers" Billy Smith and Glenn Resch are the same goalie.
If I get a reply saying I picked a special case.. I'll list off 100 more goalies whose "career average" means pretty much nuttin'
i can list a 100 as well.
Billy Smith was only awake when the score was tied or the islanders had a 1 goal lead.
give him a 3 goal lead and he starts wandering all over the ice.
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A tough loss for the Leafs. Rask bailing out the Bruins this time, but the Leafs have shown that they can play with the best of them. I look forward to the next 3 games.  Only lucky bounces evaded us this time. And when Grabovski finally blows up, I look forward to an insane run from him.
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On May 09 2013 11:59 Blisse wrote: A tough loss for the Leafs. Rask bailing out the Bruins this time, but the Leafs have shown that they can play with the best of them. I look forward to the next 3 games. Only lucky bounces evaded us this time. And when Grabovski finally blows up, I look forward to an insane run from him.
I'm still in disbelief that we didn't score in the third, let alone the OT. Tough loss indeed.
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On May 09 2013 11:59 Blisse wrote: but the Leafs have shown that they can play with the best of them.
this is the exact attitude the Leafs do not need.
They are no where close to being a Stanley Cup contender.
I do not want some miracle cinderella run where they get to the semi-finals... and then management starts running the team like they are 'only 1 player away'.
I want the Leafs out in the 1st round giving Nonis a long term mandate to improve the Leafs hockey development system and pro and amateur scouting.
Contrast this with "the board" telling Nonis to sign and/or trade for random aging UFAs ( Phil Housley, Owen Nolan, Wendel Clark(2000), Gilmour (2003) ) on the downside of their careers because the Leafs are "close" to winning the cup.
the last few times they got knocked out of the semi-finals when the Leafs were supposedly so close..
the team that knocked them out got smoked in the finals.
the only time this wasn't true was the 1978 Leafs... and they got destroyed by the Canadiens in the Semis en route to either their 3rd or 4th cup in a row.
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Vokoun to start game 5. Nobody is surprised.
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Too hilarious to not share.
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While he could have made a better effort, that all happens very very fast. Not to mention it's 3 Rangers vs. 4 Caps on one side of the ice (presumably), Ovechkin could be said to have covered the pass to the point. The more worrying thing is where is the second dman.
He's not out there with his normal linemates in that instance, but that top line of the Caps really has done a great job this series. I've seen at least a game or two from each series, and they'd probably be the most dominant offensively so far.
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On May 09 2013 08:14 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 06:36 Quenchiest wrote:On May 09 2013 05:40 StarStruck wrote:
Um the referees actually do convene quite a bit to discuss many situations. There have always been a lot of questionable calls. It's just tough luck. As for the the throwing in a red flag to argue a call and force them to go to replay? I wouldn't mind that so much. They do huddle in a lot of situations, none of which are penalty calls though. Icings, where the faceoff should be, if a goal should have been allowed, etc. With penalties, as it has always been in the NHL, one ref puts is arm up and calls what he sees and that's the end of the story. It's always ridiculous to me when the ref with the best view of the situation doesn't call a penalty but the other ref all the way up the ice decides to call something. situations like this should result in the two refs talking to eachother to decide if what happened should actually be a penalty. Reffing in all sports has some level of error, but I truly believe the NHL is the worst officiated of all the major leagues. Yes, even worse than the NBA. What? That is patently absurd. NFL games are routinely decided by the refs and not the players, and no one is ever right in the NBA. Talk about grass-is-always-greener syndrome. NHL ref'ing is awesome compared to those two leagues, especially when it doesn't affect the outcome nearly as much as other sports.
I wouldn't say the NHL refs are better than any other sport. Human error man happens a lot even at the pro level when it comes to officiating. This was certainly one of the worst years when it came to calls and non-calls for the refs but it's always been questionable regardless of the league.
On May 09 2013 21:35 Ferrose wrote:Too hilarious to not share.
That's the sniper mentality on full display ugh. ~_~
I think everyone saw it coming. The Bruins just keep coming back to bite the Leafs in the ass. No matter what we throw at them. I really hope O'Bryne doesn't stay with us for long because his hesitation with the puck makes me fume. Doesn't help when Phaneuf decides to pinch and go for a big hit instead of playing the puck (2nd time in a row might I add), which leads to another goal. We already had a lot of momentum in the OT and they're playing in front of the home crowd derp. The Leafs are learning too slow from their previous mistakes and it's a shame we couldn't get a Home win. Really sucks that we lost Fraser but that is life. Oh, I'm glad Gardiner is finally back in full form. The kid is a dynamite skater.
On May 09 2013 12:11 Mazer wrote:Show nested quote +On May 09 2013 11:59 Blisse wrote: A tough loss for the Leafs. Rask bailing out the Bruins this time, but the Leafs have shown that they can play with the best of them. I look forward to the next 3 games. Only lucky bounces evaded us this time. And when Grabovski finally blows up, I look forward to an insane run from him. I'm still in disbelief that we didn't score in the third, let alone the OT. Tough loss indeed.
The funny thing about this is when we start to out shoot the opposition the Leafs usually lose or they let in a goal because we're pushing/pinching too far forward to make something happen.
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On May 09 2013 21:35 Ferrose wrote:Too hilarious to not share.
I lolled
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For posterity:
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lolnucks
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On May 09 2013 11:46 KelianQatar wrote:
For the junior sabermatricians that think they can use "numbers" to describe an NHL goalie's performance the way you can describe a pitcher's performance.....I can name 100's of examples but i'll keep it simple by the "numbers" Billy Smith and Glenn Resch are the same goalie.
If I get a reply saying I picked a special case.. I'll list off 100 more goalies whose "career average" means pretty much nuttin'
i dont really get what your point is or why youd bring up two goalies that few here ever actually saw play live to illustrate it but maybe you can explain what you mean using examples and evidence a little more tangible than 'i saw them play' or 'FOR CUP WINZ (on an insanely stacked dynasty)'
or you could use current examples instead of going the Don Cherry 'I HAVE WATCHED FOR YEARS, I AM RIGHT' route of name dropping players that few here have seen live.
On May 09 2013 21:35 Ferrose wrote:Too hilarious to not share.
hahah was just coming to post this
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The law of Bomber has applied to the Blues for almost 50 years
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On May 09 2013 11:59 Blisse wrote: A tough loss for the Leafs. Rask bailing out the Bruins this time, but the Leafs have shown that they can play with the best of them. I look forward to the next 3 games. Only lucky bounces evaded us this time. And when Grabovski finally blows up, I look forward to an insane run from him.
LOL not with Reimer in net.
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