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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
August 20 2013 14:16 GMT
#2101
On August 20 2013 23:00 Navi wrote:
They are, but there are a lot of students in the bootcamp. Individual attention comes every few rounds, so I've mostly been looking at the more senior students / fit looking people and trying to imitate their form.

There seem to be a lot of sets in the bootcamp - would this promote muscle growth, weight loss, or just leaner muscles in general? I want to both lose some fat and develop some muscles, and the websites I've checked out suggest that you should pick one and then attend to the other afterwards. I want to match my diet accordingly, which one should I start with first (if at all?)


Ask some of the senior members for help, crossfitters generally tend to be very helpful with new comers. Are you in kor or usa?

Yes you can burn fat and gain muscle. No fat doesnt 'turn into' muscle. It is easier to focus on doing one or the other though, if you want to burn fat you're going to have to count your calories and make sure youre at a deficit. If you want to 'bulk' then you just have to eat everything in sight and get on a heavy lifting program.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
August 20 2013 14:25 GMT
#2102
Joe DeFranco's new flexibility routine video, followup to his famous "Agile 8", now called " Limber 11"

Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 14:26:35
August 20 2013 14:25 GMT
#2103
In Korea, I speak English better than I do Korean but am conversationally fluent. Luckily the gym I'm at has attendees from both Korea and other countries, so I hope to get the seniors better soon!

I'm glad to hear that you can burn fat and gain muscle. I'm only here for about one more month, and I was looking to continue Crossfit when I got back to the states. Unless the science behind burning fat / gaining muscle isn't too complex (to the point of which I can try to focus on it), I think I'll just try to eat healthy and burn some fat while attending Crossfit and work on bulking / cutting more in depth back in America.
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tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19161 Posts
August 20 2013 14:37 GMT
#2104
The long and short of it is that you'll build muscle from the workouts, as long as you do it right, regardless of whether or not you're specifically trying to. Bulking is, essentially, building big muscles that look good. Losing fat is a better goal for a beginner, in my opinion.
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 20 2013 14:56 GMT
#2105
Kind of depends where you're starting from too. If you're like 150lb and 6'+ and wanting to "lose belly fat" you're probably much better served focusing on muscle
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 20 2013 15:04 GMT
#2106
I don't understand the science behind losing weight/gaining muscle beyond if energy in>energy out you will gain weight, which will be in the form of muscle if you're putting strain on your muscle. But it's definetly possible for beginners to gain weight while losing muscle so I'm not sure exactly how that works.

I think what to focus on depends on what you think about you body Navi, focus on what you want. Assuming you're doing the workouts with proper form the rest of the work is in diet, so just make sure you get enough protein for the day and a good balance of fat and carbs and try to keep a rough idea of how many calories you're consuming. Then you can adjust how much you eat based on how your body changes, if you're not losing fat after a few weeks you can try to lower your calories.

And focus on form, I've seen some videos of some really horrible form at crossfit gyms so don't be one of those people, of course the worst videos are form are going to be the ones on the internet so I don't buy into the stereotype that all crossfitters are like that, but I do think it's a byproduct of having a lot of students per coach and there being a mentality of getting it done quickly. So ask for help from coaches and do some reading and watch videos on the internet too, lifting heavy things correctly is great for your body, lifting heavy things badly can be really dangerous.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19161 Posts
August 20 2013 15:07 GMT
#2107
On August 20 2013 23:56 mordek wrote:
Kind of depends where you're starting from too. If you're like 150lb and 6'+ and wanting to "lose belly fat" you're probably much better served focusing on muscle

150lb @ 6'0" is like -12% bf
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Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
August 20 2013 15:10 GMT
#2108
On August 21 2013 00:07 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:56 mordek wrote:
Kind of depends where you're starting from too. If you're like 150lb and 6'+ and wanting to "lose belly fat" you're probably much better served focusing on muscle

150lb @ 6'0" is like -12% bf


Hey I'm 5'10" at like 135 lbs
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 20 2013 15:18 GMT
#2109
On August 21 2013 00:07 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:56 mordek wrote:
Kind of depends where you're starting from too. If you're like 150lb and 6'+ and wanting to "lose belly fat" you're probably much better served focusing on muscle

150lb @ 6'0" is like -12% bf

I can't figure out what you're getting at by saying that :\
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 20 2013 15:26 GMT
#2110
On August 21 2013 00:07 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 20 2013 23:56 mordek wrote:
Kind of depends where you're starting from too. If you're like 150lb and 6'+ and wanting to "lose belly fat" you're probably much better served focusing on muscle

150lb @ 6'0" is like -12% bf

Well that depends totally on how much muscle a person has, I'm guessing this is an estimate for someone who hasn't lifted weights before.

I don't really know what you're trying to say with that though, I think someone at 150lb and 12% bf should be focusing on building muscle, if you put on muscle and stayed around 12% you wouldn't look fat.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 15:30:15
August 20 2013 15:28 GMT
#2111
On August 21 2013 00:10 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 00:07 tofucake wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:56 mordek wrote:
Kind of depends where you're starting from too. If you're like 150lb and 6'+ and wanting to "lose belly fat" you're probably much better served focusing on muscle

150lb @ 6'0" is like -12% bf


Hey I'm 5'10" at like 135 lbs


I'm like 5"9" at 138 lbs I look quite amazing when I take my shirt off tho. I'm probably at around 8% bf or something rediculous because I've been basically lifting at maintenance for the past 5 months. I gained about 10lbs in 5 months. Pretty slow for noobgains imo.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19161 Posts
August 20 2013 15:31 GMT
#2112
On August 21 2013 00:26 Eufouria wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 00:07 tofucake wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:56 mordek wrote:
Kind of depends where you're starting from too. If you're like 150lb and 6'+ and wanting to "lose belly fat" you're probably much better served focusing on muscle

150lb @ 6'0" is like -12% bf

Well that depends totally on how much muscle a person has, I'm guessing this is an estimate for someone who hasn't lifted weights before.

I don't really know what you're trying to say with that though, I think someone at 150lb and 12% bf should be focusing on building muscle, if you put on muscle and stayed around 12% you wouldn't look fat.

I said -12%, as an exaggeration. 150lb @ 6'0" is far too skinny
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Vitruvian
Profile Joined September 2011
United States168 Posts
August 20 2013 15:33 GMT
#2113
I think he was trying to say negative body fat because it's such a low weight/height ratio - a frame like that wouldn't have much muscle OR fat at 150 lbs.
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 15:33:54
August 20 2013 15:33 GMT
#2114
what he probably meant that 150lb for 6"0 is way too skinny

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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 15:46:37
August 20 2013 15:45 GMT
#2115
I'm still at a loss if that disagrees with my original statement. We don't know where Navi is coming from. He's already said he's lean, so before we say "fat loss" is the best goal to focus on for a beginner I thought it prudent to mention that knowing his stats and where he is coming from would be good.

I think we're all in agreement?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-20 16:09:26
August 20 2013 16:07 GMT
#2116
Aye.

I saw some horrible deadlift form today. Damnn. It is that they were deadlifting more than me but I really wanted to correct that shit. Their lower back was rounded before they even pulled the thing up. I wasn't the only one who noticed. Afterwards when they were doing dumbell stuff, an old lady doing dumbell stuff as well corrected them on their dumbell stuff form haha. Their spines were in terrible form then as well. Honestly. It almost seemed that they already did permanent damage. It just looked very uncanny. Also, these people doing chest and bi's erryday really have terrible posture. Don't they notice that? What the hell man.
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 20 2013 16:13 GMT
#2117
On August 21 2013 00:31 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2013 00:26 Eufouria wrote:
On August 21 2013 00:07 tofucake wrote:
On August 20 2013 23:56 mordek wrote:
Kind of depends where you're starting from too. If you're like 150lb and 6'+ and wanting to "lose belly fat" you're probably much better served focusing on muscle

150lb @ 6'0" is like -12% bf

Well that depends totally on how much muscle a person has, I'm guessing this is an estimate for someone who hasn't lifted weights before.

I don't really know what you're trying to say with that though, I think someone at 150lb and 12% bf should be focusing on building muscle, if you put on muscle and stayed around 12% you wouldn't look fat.

I said -12%, as an exaggeration. 150lb @ 6'0" is far too skinny

Lol I didn't see the -. Whoosh.

On August 21 2013 00:45 mordek wrote:
I'm still at a loss if that disagrees with my original statement. We don't know where Navi is coming from. He's already said he's lean, so before we say "fat loss" is the best goal to focus on for a beginner I thought it prudent to mention that knowing his stats and where he is coming from would be good.

I think we're all in agreement?

Yes this, I didn't want to make judgements about his body from a post that didn't really give too much information.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 20 2013 16:17 GMT
#2118
I was 135 pounds at 6'3 before I started lifting.I've never had much in the way of fat to lose, so it really all depends on where you're coming from.

I'm still too skinny though.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
August 20 2013 16:30 GMT
#2119
Isn't that getting pretty dangerous haha.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18839 Posts
August 20 2013 17:04 GMT
#2120
I weighed 315 lbs at 6'1 before I started lifting
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