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Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
August 20 2013 22:27 GMT
#2121
Thanks all. I'm pretty damn short though, so your worries are unjustified haha
Probably like a 5'7? and 140 pounds
Hey! Listen!
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
August 20 2013 22:39 GMT
#2122
Feel pretty good after my surgery, but still not allowed to do anything =/

Stitches in my eyes and all, pretty bad deal. At least I'm not in pain or anything. The doctor thought there was something wrong with me because I wasn't complaining about pain. I remember this surgery being much more painful, and at least needing Tylenol on the first day. Don't even need anything for my eyes.
BenKen
Profile Joined August 2009
United States860 Posts
August 21 2013 02:34 GMT
#2123
Shit dude, sounds rough. Keep us updated.
I deadlift for Aiur
ieatkids5
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States4628 Posts
August 21 2013 02:47 GMT
#2124
what surgery did you have? i had cataract removal surgeries done for both eyes about 2 months ago
mine had no pain at all though, and no stitches either, so i'm guessing you had something else done.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12705 Posts
August 21 2013 12:08 GMT
#2125
Hope your recovery is quick mtl. You got school starting soon?
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-08-21 15:14:24
August 21 2013 15:12 GMT
#2126
I'll write about it right now, even though I'm really not supposed to be on the computer (save the nagging for my mom ).

Basically I have a condition called exotropia. There's a mediocre wikipedia article on it if you want to read the more in depth stuff about strabismus and exotropia, but basically it causes my left eye to pull in. It's not a really painful condition, but it causes eye strain as well as double vision. Basically this is the reason I've never played sports.

In regards to the surgery, this isn't really a big deal. This is the third operation I've had on my eyes and I really just am uncomfortable. They make a small incision in my tear duct and then had to tighten one or two of the muscles in my right eye. They put stitches to hold the muscle in place. The stitches aren't what hurt, it's that it makes my right eye super tight and makes me look a bit retarded. Basically you normally want your eye to be centered in your orbital cavity and my eye is kind of in the bottom left corner as if I was cross eye.

The recovery itself doesn't take long, but these are dissolving stitches. That basically guarantees that I can't try anything dumb before they dissolve and also means that I'm kind of bed ridden for the first 3-5 days of my surgery. I can walk around and stuff since I have no pain, but I basically can't read anything and/or use the computer. Weight lifting is certainly a big no since raising my blood pressure could mean popping my stitches.

And yeah, school starts pretty soon for me but luckily it will be completely healed by the time I have school. The biggest issue I have right now is my double vision. If you don't really remember/know, your eyes don't really do the seeing for you, that's what your brain does. Since my eyes aren't in the alignment they were in before, my double vision is very, very dramatic and I can't really see with both eyes open.

Thanks for all the well wishes, I'll try to keep you guys as updated as possible Also sorry if there are any typos, I can't really read what I'm writing xD

I guess I also forgot to mention that I have taken no pain killers either. It's pretty good that I have managed to get through the surgery and anesthesia with zero painkillers.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
August 21 2013 15:32 GMT
#2127
The double vision should go away if the muscles in your eyes are fixed/healed right?
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
August 21 2013 17:28 GMT
#2128
On August 22 2013 00:32 Recognizable wrote:
The double vision should go away if the muscles in your eyes are fixed/healed right?

It will go away with time, but that's not the responsibility of my eyes, that's the job of my brain. It takes time for my brain to readjust to the new alignment of my eyes and it will just take some time to see what happens.

I have had slight double vision for my entire life, but it varies at different times of the day. IT gets especially bad at night, after my eyes have been used the entire day.

The only way I can explain it is that it's like going to a job where you have to move thousands of pounds every day, then coming home and immediately trying to workout. Your body just doesn't have the energy to and it's going to be kind of half-assed. That's basically how my eyes feel at the end of the day. Depending on when this happens determines if it's necessary for surgery. If my left eye starts to go out at 5:30-6:00 PM, that's a big issue. If it doesn't go out til 10:30, 11:00, I can deal with it. It makes it incredibly hard to stay up late for school. If I'm going out and I stay up late, my body compensates by putting me to sleep very early the next day.
Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
August 21 2013 18:55 GMT
#2129
Your brain is doing information processing correction reps all day bro. Soreness will go away after the first few weeks. Anyway, hopefully your brain will adapt and fully recover!
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
August 21 2013 19:05 GMT
#2130
On August 22 2013 03:55 Recognizable wrote:
Your brain is doing information processing correction reps all day bro. Soreness will go away after the first few weeks. Anyway, hopefully your brain will adapt and fully recover!

Well, I've gotten this surgery for a total of 3 times now.

The second time I got it, it took up to 5 months for it to fully go away, and it still bothers me from time to time.
ragnasaur
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States804 Posts
August 21 2013 19:35 GMT
#2131
[B]Also on a related note, does anybody know which exercises best transfer to boxing? If I had to guess it'd be the powerclean but I could be wrong. I think after I lose the 15lb I should pack on some more muscle by either upping my lifts (They really suck) or trying out olympic lifting.

ETA: I just read this article, what do you guys think? http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-training/boxing-workouts/why-lifting-weights-wont-increase-punching-power

Hitting the heavy bag builds power. Shadowboxing builds speed. Then there's strength training. I think that exercises that mimic the moves in fighting would transfer the best. So things like 1-handed push ups like Rocky does mimic a punch pretty well & power cleans use the same basic leg movements as some kicks (front, back, side, & mule kicks etc.) And mine sweepers resemble wrestling. Stuff like that
| (• ◡•)| (❍ᴥ❍ʋ) George Forman doesnt have any fingerprints
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 21 2013 21:28 GMT
#2132
On August 22 2013 04:35 ragnasaur wrote:
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[B]Also on a related note, does anybody know which exercises best transfer to boxing? If I had to guess it'd be the powerclean but I could be wrong. I think after I lose the 15lb I should pack on some more muscle by either upping my lifts (They really suck) or trying out olympic lifting.

ETA: I just read this article, what do you guys think? http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-training/boxing-workouts/why-lifting-weights-wont-increase-punching-power

Hitting the heavy bag builds power. Shadowboxing builds speed. Then there's strength training. I think that exercises that mimic the moves in fighting would transfer the best. So things like 1-handed push ups like Rocky does mimic a punch pretty well & power cleans use the same basic leg movements as some kicks (front, back, side, & mule kicks etc.) And mine sweepers resemble wrestling. Stuff like that


IDK about that - while things like 1 handed pushups look fancy, I'm sure you're going to get better "effective strength" by building big strong hips/legs/back using traditional means (squats and deads bro) and then using them in a boxing situation to make that strength more "boxing specific" rather than starting out with something you saw in a movie.
ragnasaur
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
United States804 Posts
August 21 2013 22:41 GMT
#2133
On August 22 2013 06:28 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2013 04:35 ragnasaur wrote:
[B]Also on a related note, does anybody know which exercises best transfer to boxing? If I had to guess it'd be the powerclean but I could be wrong. I think after I lose the 15lb I should pack on some more muscle by either upping my lifts (They really suck) or trying out olympic lifting.

ETA: I just read this article, what do you guys think? http://www.expertboxing.com/boxing-training/boxing-workouts/why-lifting-weights-wont-increase-punching-power

Hitting the heavy bag builds power. Shadowboxing builds speed. Then there's strength training. I think that exercises that mimic the moves in fighting would transfer the best. So things like 1-handed push ups like Rocky does mimic a punch pretty well & power cleans use the same basic leg movements as some kicks (front, back, side, & mule kicks etc.) And mine sweepers resemble wrestling. Stuff like that


IDK about that - while things like 1 handed pushups look fancy, I'm sure you're going to get better "effective strength" by building big strong hips/legs/back using traditional means (squats and deads bro) and then using them in a boxing situation to make that strength more "boxing specific" rather than starting out with something you saw in a movie.

The squat & deadlift build tons of strength & probably should be included in a boxing training program. I just listed other examples. 1 handed pushups are awesome and can be done explosively and on your fists. Above lifting though, you gotta hit the bag
| (• ◡•)| (❍ᴥ❍ʋ) George Forman doesnt have any fingerprints
Eufouria
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom4425 Posts
August 22 2013 00:32 GMT
#2134
Based on what I've heard about fighting athletes working out I would imagine that it's best to be doing a lot of heavy compound excerises, but focusing on high rep, high volume, low rest time. Since you want to train to be strong for an entire fight, not just to be able to throw a couple of hard punches before you get tired.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20053 Posts
August 22 2013 04:06 GMT
#2135
Just brutal HIIT workouts focusing on explosive movements and compound excercises. Powercleans, heavy ropes, box jumps, speed drills, etc.Then obviously a ton of actual sport specific work. You don't workout to get better at punching, you workout to build a better base to punch with.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
August 22 2013 05:57 GMT
#2136
On August 22 2013 13:06 decafchicken wrote:
Just brutal HIIT workouts focusing on explosive movements and compound excercises. Powercleans, heavy ropes, box jumps, speed drills, etc.Then obviously a ton of actual sport specific work. You don't workout to get better at punching, you workout to build a better base to punch with.


Yeah I've been looking at boxing training programs. It's basically plyometrics + a bunch of core exercises. I don't think some strength training would hurt at all (Well... I did get injured recently trying to up my DL and boxing at the same time). I've cut down my lifting to two days a week and I box one to two days a week. What be some core exercises you'd recommend? Preferably with medicine balls. I don't have that much time to train so I would like a short 15 exercise I can do on my lift days (Atm I do some plank stuff, situps and some other basic stuff).

I think once I'm more in shape I will up my calories and try to up my lifts as well. After 2-3 months more of boxing I should be used to the sessions by then.

I might as well post my fitness goals:

1) Find a diet/rule out physical causes etc. to lift my brain fog.
2) Get down to 8% BF comfortably-- Diet wise as well, I want to still be able to eat really tasty food.
3) Become a hard puncher
4) Improve my lifts all around

So far while number 1 is still a long ways off, 2 and 3 are getting there. I started about 6 weeks ago and I've lost a lot of fat. Went from 182lb at 20% body fat to 171lb and 16% bodyfat. Despite my frustration at my remaining belly flab I have made a lot of progress in a relatively short amount of time. I can start to see my abs at certain angles. So I just have to be patient and keep at it. I did started out at 190lb at the end of June. One of the things I'm doing if anyone is curious is the leangains style intermittent fasting.
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
August 22 2013 07:15 GMT
#2137
Today I started back up my exercise regimen after injuring my back, over a month not exercising beyond daily life (I do have a job where I do a lot of walking/standing, I don't have a sitdown job)

So, I decided to do 80% of my previous work load as my work sets today.

I got through squats OK, I did feel a bit tired after.

Bench was no problem

Deadlifts. This was what I was worried about. This is where I injured myself (lower back injury). I decided to go back to the gym because I can't stand not to work out anymore, I was starting to feel like garbage. I could still feel my back in strain when I sat a certain way, and it isn't really PAIN, just slight discomfort; other than that, I have been pain free.

I got through my warmup sets alright, getting up to my work sets (around 300 when I got injured, somewhere around 240 or so tonight). When I got to my work sets, I was really trying to listen to my body, and I was aware of my back and I could feel some strain on it. I'm not really sure if my body was telling me to stop, or If I was just paying attention to it now and got scared.

I stopped after my first set of 3 at work load and went onto my next exercise.

How do I know when coming back from an injury where I stand? I'm fairly certain I'm going to feel my back with some strain on it no matter what, so what does that mean for me? I need to stop deadlifting? Do I need to throttle back even more, or go for it? How do you know when you're body is telling you to stop beyond major pain?
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Netherlands1242 Posts
August 22 2013 07:43 GMT
#2138
Arisen, I would recommend replacing deadlifts with proper form dumbell rows and chin-ups/lat pulldowns for a few months if you are not sure. 80% is a LOT for taking a month off though, maybe the weight is just too heavy.
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Recognizable
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Netherlands1552 Posts
August 22 2013 08:58 GMT
#2139
On August 22 2013 04:05 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
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On August 22 2013 03:55 Recognizable wrote:
Your brain is doing information processing correction reps all day bro. Soreness will go away after the first few weeks. Anyway, hopefully your brain will adapt and fully recover!

Well, I've gotten this surgery for a total of 3 times now.

The second time I got it, it took up to 5 months for it to fully go away, and it still bothers me from time to time.


Ah that's quite long
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19099 Posts
August 22 2013 11:49 GMT
#2140
On August 22 2013 13:06 decafchicken wrote:
Just brutal HIIT workouts focusing on explosive movements and compound excercises. Powercleans, heavy ropes, box jumps, speed drills, etc.Then obviously a ton of actual sport specific work. You don't workout to get better at punching, you workout to build a better base to punch with.

sounds like you're suggesting crossfit
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