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HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
February 09 2013 16:44 GMT
#5541
Titus Scramble!
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
February 09 2013 16:44 GMT
#5542
I just woke up but holy shit Sczeszny! What the heck happened btw? I started watching in the 83rd minute and the very first thing I heard the casters say was that Wilshere came off injured and Jenkinson got sent off...
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
February 09 2013 16:44 GMT
#5543
Holy fuck, Szczesny. Dem saves.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
TS-Rupbar
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Sweden1089 Posts
February 09 2013 16:48 GMT
#5544
Sagna MotM? Arsenal fighting!
Ysellian
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands9029 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 16:51:30
February 09 2013 16:51 GMT
#5545
Giroud WotM today. FFS


well at least of the guys still on the pitch.
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 16:52:43
February 09 2013 16:51 GMT
#5546
On February 10 2013 01:43 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 00:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Alright, something I just don't get. I play hockey and soccer; in both, I play goalie (keeper). I've been watching keepers a lot more closely recently, and I've seen way too many 5-hole goals on keepers, in all leagues. These goals usually happen because the keeper's legs are completely sprawled as he has no idea where the ball is going. What I don't get is this; if a professional hockey goalie can properly react to a puck going to the 5-hole (even if he doesn't actually stop it), why is it that professional keeper's can't do it as well? A puck travels much faster and is much harder to follow than a soccer ball is. Is it a difference in technique that makes it impractical to properly protect 5-hole shots? Just a lack of focus in training?

Hockey nets are smaller. You need to cover a bigger area in football, and that usually necessitates being more spread out. This used to happen to Schmeichel all the time, but he'd also save a lot of one on one shots because he was spread out. If your legs are shut all the time then, yeah, you won't let as many through your legs, but you won't save shots that go low and just to your side often either. It's a trade off.

Also, Hockey goalkeepers can use their stick to cover between their legs.


1) You shouldn't be using your stick to save between-the-leg shots.

2) It's not a matter of always having your legs closed all the time or not; it's a matter of reaction time. Being a professional goalie demands much better reflexes and yet they are able to save the vast majority of shots on goal; why don't we see more keepers improving their play like this?
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
February 09 2013 16:53 GMT
#5547
Phew. Good fighting in the second half. Well earned three points.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
February 09 2013 16:55 GMT
#5548
On February 10 2013 01:51 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 01:43 Sated wrote:
On February 10 2013 00:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Alright, something I just don't get. I play hockey and soccer; in both, I play goalie (keeper). I've been watching keepers a lot more closely recently, and I've seen way too many 5-hole goals on keepers, in all leagues. These goals usually happen because the keeper's legs are completely sprawled as he has no idea where the ball is going. What I don't get is this; if a professional hockey goalie can properly react to a puck going to the 5-hole (even if he doesn't actually stop it), why is it that professional keeper's can't do it as well? A puck travels much faster and is much harder to follow than a soccer ball is. Is it a difference in technique that makes it impractical to properly protect 5-hole shots? Just a lack of focus in training?

Hockey nets are smaller. You need to cover a bigger area in football, and that usually necessitates being more spread out. This used to happen to Schmeichel all the time, but he'd also save a lot of one on one shots because he was spread out. If your legs are shut all the time then, yeah, you won't let as many through your legs, but you won't save shots that go low and just to your side often either. It's a trade off.

Also, Hockey goalkeepers can use their stick to cover between their legs.


1) You shouldn't be using your stick to save between-the-leg shots.

2) It's not a matter of always having your legs closed all the time or not; it's a matter of reaction time. Being a professional goalie demands much better reflexes and yet they are able to save the vast majority of shots on goal; why don't we see more keepers improving their play like this?


Movement is faster on ice. Hockey goalies are on their knees as well. I think it's a matter of physics to some extent.
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Sated
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
England4983 Posts
February 09 2013 17:00 GMT
#5549
--- Nuked ---
EchoZ
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan5041 Posts
February 09 2013 17:08 GMT
#5550
I have officially given up on QPR.
Dear Sixsmith...
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 17:08:44
February 09 2013 17:08 GMT
#5551
On February 10 2013 02:00 Sated wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 01:51 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On February 10 2013 01:43 Sated wrote:
On February 10 2013 00:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Alright, something I just don't get. I play hockey and soccer; in both, I play goalie (keeper). I've been watching keepers a lot more closely recently, and I've seen way too many 5-hole goals on keepers, in all leagues. These goals usually happen because the keeper's legs are completely sprawled as he has no idea where the ball is going. What I don't get is this; if a professional hockey goalie can properly react to a puck going to the 5-hole (even if he doesn't actually stop it), why is it that professional keeper's can't do it as well? A puck travels much faster and is much harder to follow than a soccer ball is. Is it a difference in technique that makes it impractical to properly protect 5-hole shots? Just a lack of focus in training?

Hockey nets are smaller. You need to cover a bigger area in football, and that usually necessitates being more spread out. This used to happen to Schmeichel all the time, but he'd also save a lot of one on one shots because he was spread out. If your legs are shut all the time then, yeah, you won't let as many through your legs, but you won't save shots that go low and just to your side often either. It's a trade off.

Also, Hockey goalkeepers can use their stick to cover between their legs.


1) You shouldn't be using your stick to save between-the-leg shots.

2) It's not a matter of always having your legs closed all the time or not; it's a matter of reaction time. Being a professional goalie demands much better reflexes and yet they are able to save the vast majority of shots on goal; why don't we see more keepers improving their play like this?

1) I wouldn't know, it just came to mind.

2) You're saying that the ball moving slower means that people should be able to react in time, but you're forgetting that - despite moving slower - the ball will usually reach the keeper faster than human reaction time allows for a proper reaction. So the speed of a puck compared to the speed of a football is completely irrelevant, especially in one-on-one situations.

It's not all about reaction time, anyway. Positioning is super important. Standing up for as long as possible in a one-on-one situation is generally favourable, as it prevents you from conceding to cheeky chips, or from allowing the striker to go around you easily, and in order to stand up for as long as possible whilst still covering shots that go down by your sides, you need your legs spread. Since shots will be coming at you from a distance where reaction time is going to be minimal, it is very hard to save a shot that goes just out of your immediate reach.


I don't know, it's just an idea that came to mind over recent weeks. I feel like there's always more room for improvement in keeper play. I feel like we'll see some kind of shift in keeper technique over the next decade or two to make more of those saves that are within reach, going through the legs or low and to the side, because right now, we see a lot of those going in.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 17:17:40
February 09 2013 17:12 GMT
#5552
On February 10 2013 02:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 02:00 Sated wrote:
On February 10 2013 01:51 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On February 10 2013 01:43 Sated wrote:
On February 10 2013 00:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Alright, something I just don't get. I play hockey and soccer; in both, I play goalie (keeper). I've been watching keepers a lot more closely recently, and I've seen way too many 5-hole goals on keepers, in all leagues. These goals usually happen because the keeper's legs are completely sprawled as he has no idea where the ball is going. What I don't get is this; if a professional hockey goalie can properly react to a puck going to the 5-hole (even if he doesn't actually stop it), why is it that professional keeper's can't do it as well? A puck travels much faster and is much harder to follow than a soccer ball is. Is it a difference in technique that makes it impractical to properly protect 5-hole shots? Just a lack of focus in training?

Hockey nets are smaller. You need to cover a bigger area in football, and that usually necessitates being more spread out. This used to happen to Schmeichel all the time, but he'd also save a lot of one on one shots because he was spread out. If your legs are shut all the time then, yeah, you won't let as many through your legs, but you won't save shots that go low and just to your side often either. It's a trade off.

Also, Hockey goalkeepers can use their stick to cover between their legs.


1) You shouldn't be using your stick to save between-the-leg shots.

2) It's not a matter of always having your legs closed all the time or not; it's a matter of reaction time. Being a professional goalie demands much better reflexes and yet they are able to save the vast majority of shots on goal; why don't we see more keepers improving their play like this?

1) I wouldn't know, it just came to mind.

2) You're saying that the ball moving slower means that people should be able to react in time, but you're forgetting that - despite moving slower - the ball will usually reach the keeper faster than human reaction time allows for a proper reaction. So the speed of a puck compared to the speed of a football is completely irrelevant, especially in one-on-one situations.

It's not all about reaction time, anyway. Positioning is super important. Standing up for as long as possible in a one-on-one situation is generally favourable, as it prevents you from conceding to cheeky chips, or from allowing the striker to go around you easily, and in order to stand up for as long as possible whilst still covering shots that go down by your sides, you need your legs spread. Since shots will be coming at you from a distance where reaction time is going to be minimal, it is very hard to save a shot that goes just out of your immediate reach.


I don't know, it's just an idea that came to mind over recent weeks. I feel like there's always more room for improvement in keeper play. I feel like we'll see some kind of shift in keeper technique over the next decade or two to make more of those saves that are within reach, going through the legs or low and to the side, because right now, we see a lot of those going in.


I feel like keepers should be trained as baseball center fielders so they stop letting in those goals on long balls.

Edit: I say this because I'm sick of seeing a keeper dive at a ball, miss it narrowly, and then hearing the casters go "the keeper never had a chance!"
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
February 09 2013 17:20 GMT
#5553
On February 10 2013 02:12 Ferrose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2013 02:08 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On February 10 2013 02:00 Sated wrote:
On February 10 2013 01:51 Stratos_speAr wrote:
On February 10 2013 01:43 Sated wrote:
On February 10 2013 00:57 Stratos_speAr wrote:
Alright, something I just don't get. I play hockey and soccer; in both, I play goalie (keeper). I've been watching keepers a lot more closely recently, and I've seen way too many 5-hole goals on keepers, in all leagues. These goals usually happen because the keeper's legs are completely sprawled as he has no idea where the ball is going. What I don't get is this; if a professional hockey goalie can properly react to a puck going to the 5-hole (even if he doesn't actually stop it), why is it that professional keeper's can't do it as well? A puck travels much faster and is much harder to follow than a soccer ball is. Is it a difference in technique that makes it impractical to properly protect 5-hole shots? Just a lack of focus in training?

Hockey nets are smaller. You need to cover a bigger area in football, and that usually necessitates being more spread out. This used to happen to Schmeichel all the time, but he'd also save a lot of one on one shots because he was spread out. If your legs are shut all the time then, yeah, you won't let as many through your legs, but you won't save shots that go low and just to your side often either. It's a trade off.

Also, Hockey goalkeepers can use their stick to cover between their legs.


1) You shouldn't be using your stick to save between-the-leg shots.

2) It's not a matter of always having your legs closed all the time or not; it's a matter of reaction time. Being a professional goalie demands much better reflexes and yet they are able to save the vast majority of shots on goal; why don't we see more keepers improving their play like this?

1) I wouldn't know, it just came to mind.

2) You're saying that the ball moving slower means that people should be able to react in time, but you're forgetting that - despite moving slower - the ball will usually reach the keeper faster than human reaction time allows for a proper reaction. So the speed of a puck compared to the speed of a football is completely irrelevant, especially in one-on-one situations.

It's not all about reaction time, anyway. Positioning is super important. Standing up for as long as possible in a one-on-one situation is generally favourable, as it prevents you from conceding to cheeky chips, or from allowing the striker to go around you easily, and in order to stand up for as long as possible whilst still covering shots that go down by your sides, you need your legs spread. Since shots will be coming at you from a distance where reaction time is going to be minimal, it is very hard to save a shot that goes just out of your immediate reach.


I don't know, it's just an idea that came to mind over recent weeks. I feel like there's always more room for improvement in keeper play. I feel like we'll see some kind of shift in keeper technique over the next decade or two to make more of those saves that are within reach, going through the legs or low and to the side, because right now, we see a lot of those going in.


I feel like keepers should be trained as baseball center fielders so they stop letting in those goals on long balls.

Edit: I say this because I'm sick of seeing a keeper dive at a ball, miss it narrowly, and then hearing the casters go "the keeper never had a chance!"


I feel the exact same way. There's a lot of improvement that could be made in keeper play overall.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
February 09 2013 17:29 GMT
#5554
Dortmund /facepalm
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 17:53:54
February 09 2013 17:37 GMT
#5555
Lolol City

LOLOL JOE HART
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Hamp
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway100 Posts
February 09 2013 17:53 GMT
#5556
Juve doing pretty well against Viola at the moment. Still think Matri has to go by the end of the season.
NuclearJudas
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
6546 Posts
February 09 2013 17:53 GMT
#5557
Hahah, City. Down 2-0 against Saints.
Life is like Tetris. Your errors pile up but your accomplishments disappear. - Robert Ohlén | http://railroaddiary.wordpress.com/ - My words about stuff.
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
February 09 2013 17:55 GMT
#5558
Now that looks more like an England keeper.
https://steamcommunity.com/id/*tlusernamehere*/
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-09 18:05:07
February 09 2013 18:03 GMT
#5559
Oh, Robben. The same diving little bitch that you always were. People like you give this sport a bad image.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
February 09 2013 18:04 GMT
#5560
Fantastic free kick from Schweinsteiger!
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