EPTA short summary based on stuff I've read over the season and conclusions I've come to.
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Littlemuff
United Kingdom301 Posts
A short summary based on stuff I've read over the season and conclusions I've come to. | ||
Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
On February 08 2013 21:41 Littlemuff wrote: It seems to be Ramos and Casillas being the big egos of the club (why they've been dropped recently). Similar to Terry and Lampard while AVB was at Chelsea. Mourinho wants them gone so he can lead the team as the absolute leader. Not happening as Ramos and Casillas are having hissy fits. Media are turning on the Portuguese manager rather than the Spanish World Cup winners. So Mourinho will A short summary based on stuff I've read over the season and conclusions I've come to. Close....i fixed it though. I agree, he has tried to change the guard, so he can be in charge which is what he needs. Casillas and Ramos have stood up to him when he has tried things and Mourinho doesn't like people apposing him and disrespecting his authority. Then he drops them and they lose and causes shit storm. The whole thing at Real is a mess anyway. Would love to see how the new manager will try to "salvage" anything next season. You need a great manager, even with the squad Madrid have to try and go toe to toe with Messi, when if you play "defensively" you get slated as the anti christ of Football xD | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On February 08 2013 21:58 Pandemona wrote: Close....i fixed it though. I agree, he has tried to change the guard, so he can be in charge which is what he needs. Casillas and Ramos have stood up to him when he has tried things and Mourinho doesn't like people apposing him and disrespecting his authority. Then he drops them and they lose and causes shit storm. The whole thing at Real is a mess anyway. Would love to see how the new manager will try to "salvage" anything next season. You need a great manager, even with the squad Madrid have to try and go toe to toe with Messi, when if you play "defensively" you get slated as the anti christ of Football xD Indeed, it won't be easy for mourinho's successor. But If I am correct, it's election time in summer for RM, and if a new president arrives then the new coach would probably get less pressured as it would be a whole new project and people would accept some early failures. If Perez and Mourinho both leave, I can see ronaldo asking for a transfer. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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Littlemuff
United Kingdom301 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
I don't see CR following him either. Mou has made a joke out of Madrid so hard that they even dislike each other at this point. He is so low in human morale, it's easy to see why. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
EVERYTHING Mourinho does, is for a reason, to get a reaction. If the press focus on Mourinho it is so the focus is not on the players, and gives them freedom to play without added nerves/expectations. He did it NUMEROUS times at Chelsea and Inter. He gets this from the master, Alex Ferguson, he does it the most. People dislike Fergie, why? Cuz the guy is probably one of the greatest managers of all times. Just take this season for example. The worst midfield, defence and keeper in the premiership, yet are going to walk away with it, and are on course to beat Chelsea's record points tally (set when Mourinho was here i might add). Thats what they do as managers, say things, to get reactions to draw attention away from players. To say absolute idiot things that people are saying here is going quite over the mark...I suggest people stop with the blatant hate, and if they want to speak bad about someone/team they do it with a bit more respect. I try, in all my posts to do that, i suggest everyone else does, before we start getting people warned and banned for such silly hateful remarks! | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:30 Littlemuff wrote: The only club I see Ronaldo going to is PSG. He seems to have too much respect for Ferguson to join any other Prem Club. ManU is a rather wealthy club and SAF has never been afraid to splash the cash, I can see ManU pushing for ronaldo's return. The guy belongs there anyway, can't see him joining PSG when, at 28, he's probably hitting his peak. On February 08 2013 22:56 Pandemona wrote: EVERYTHING Mourinho does, is for a reason, to get a reaction. If the press focus on Mourinho it is so the focus is not on the players, and gives them freedom to play without added nerves/expectations. He did it NUMEROUS times at Chelsea and Inter. I have to strongly disagree here. While what you say might hold some water in the past, in RM Mourinho keeps criticizing his players during press conferences when the team loses/draws. This is the exact opposite of players protection, if anything he's adding tensions. | ||
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haitike
Spain2745 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:56 Pandemona wrote: Ok, you have got to be kidding me? "He is so low in human morale" what the hell do you mean by that? Mou is a human with remarkably low morale, it's been pretty obvious with his way of doing things at Madrid. No idea about his past, and I could not care less tbh. Waiting a ref at the parking to threaten him. Blaming the losses on everything but himself and talking only about him (not his team) when HE wins a championship. Insulting other trainers (the guys who share his job). Sticking a finger in Tito's eye from behind and then saying "Who is Pito? I don't know any Pito" when asked about it (Pito means dick in spanish lol). Closing a press guy in a room to interrogate him about the info leaks to the media. You could write a fucking book about it, can't be any more obvious lol. If this is not mafia style, you need new glasses. But thanks to him everyone in spain (and around the globe) hates madrid with a passion now. So it's all cool with me. Mou to stay, greatest villain ever. What started as a theater act has consumed him and he believes all the crap he says now lol Just look at thim, he aged like 10 years in just 3. Like Guardiola did, having to hear all his crap. No wonder he left, being the trainer of the best team ever is cool, but not worth losing your health and part of your mental sanity. And your hair  | ||
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popzags
Poland604 Posts
On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Ferguson is even more of a despotic tyrant in MU, only that he keeps it behind the scenes while Mou is quite upfront with his bossy tactics, mindgames and other psychological tricks. That being said, Real Madrid was like the worst place for Mourinho; a gigantic circus of world-class stars for a manager that always put emphasis on teamwork. IMO Real should be controlled by a guy like Vicente Del Bosque - less showy, less control-obsessed etc. Mou would fit much better with some Italy club or... Manchester United, but I don't think it can ever happen. | ||
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
On February 08 2013 23:19 popzags wrote: Mourinho is like Dr House of football (and right now, Casillas is like Foreman, being abused just BECAUSE I WANT LOL). On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Ferguson is even more of a despotic tyrant in MU, only that he keeps it behind the scenes while Mou is quite upfront with his bossy tactics, mindgames and other psychological tricks. That being said, Real Madrid was like the worst place for Mourinho; a gigantic circus of world-class stars for a manager that always put emphasis on teamwork. IMO Real should be controlled by a guy like Vicente Del Bosque - less showy, less control-obsessed etc. Mou would fit much better with some Italy club or... Manchester United, but I don't think it can ever happen. Not renewing del bosque's contract was easily the biggest mistake madrid has done since a long time. They gave him the sack ... and appointed Queiroz for fuck's sake ! I can't think of a bigger mistake in modern football management. | ||
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
I guess it was the worst place for Mourinho to go to impliment his style of work hard, follow my lead, i'll make you winners. When all the stars were pretty much "winners" when they joined and are not probably used to this hard work etcetc. | ||
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Littlemuff
United Kingdom301 Posts
On February 08 2013 22:59 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: ManU is a rather wealthy club and SAF has never been afraid to splash the cash, I can see ManU pushing for ronaldo's return. The guy belongs there anyway, can't see him joining PSG when, at 28, he's probably hitting his peak. I have to strongly disagree here. While what you say might hold some water in the past, in RM Mourinho keeps criticizing his players during press conferences when the team loses/draws. This is the exact opposite of players protection, if anything he's adding tensions. RM bought Ronaldo for £80million and he's only got better as a player. If he does get sold, it would have to be for more than that so they can make a profit. Manchester United may be a wealthy club but they are not that wealthy. Ferguson would also look at the success RVP has given him from a £24million deal. Only PSG, City, Chelsea and some of the Russian clubs can afford him with an out right offer. From those clubs PSG seems to be the only real place Ronaldo will go. Chelsea are not good enough, City are Uniteds rivals and Russia is were quality players go to retire. If he was to go back to Manchester United he would have to wait until his contract runs out or if there was some crazy deal where they offered £50mil and traded a few players with it. | ||
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
On February 08 2013 23:19 popzags wrote: Mourinho is like Dr House of football (and right now, Casillas is like Foreman, being abused just BECAUSE I WANT LOL). On the other hand, I'm pretty sure Ferguson is even more of a despotic tyrant in MU, only that he keeps it behind the scenes while Mou is quite upfront with his bossy tactics, mindgames and other psychological tricks. That being said, Real Madrid was like the worst place for Mourinho; a gigantic circus of world-class stars for a manager that always put emphasis on teamwork. IMO Real should be controlled by a guy like Vicente Del Bosque - less showy, less control-obsessed etc. Mou would fit much better with some Italy club or... Manchester United, but I don't think it can ever happen. Possibly the best description of Mourinho and yeah casillas is totally Foreman XD | ||
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Rebs
Pakistan10726 Posts
On February 08 2013 21:40 Telcontar wrote: I think even Mourinho wants Mourinho out. And thats the key point. Mourinho leaves when he wants to leave. He just makes it easier for everyone else when hes doing it. Van Gaal is quite similar although perhaps not as deliberate in making everyone hate him. On February 08 2013 23:41 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Not renewing del bosque's contract was easily the biggest mistake madrid has done since a long time. They gave him the sack ... and appointed Queiroz for fuck's sake ! I can't think of a bigger mistake in modern football management. Well thats way in the past at this point. Del Bosque wasnt the only manager Madrids kicked out somewhat unfairly under Perez. But yeah considering Del Bosque for lack of a better word is the most "adorbz" manager you could possible have I dont see why anyone would ever kick him out. But thats just me. | ||
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NuclearJudas
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TS-Rupbar
Sweden1089 Posts
Giroud, Whilshere, Podolski and Walcott are all in great form, so I'm hoping for some goals! Come on you Gunners! | ||
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HwangjaeTerran
Finland5967 Posts
On February 08 2013 23:41 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: Not renewing del bosque's contract was easily the biggest mistake madrid has done since a long time. They gave him the sack ... and appointed Queiroz for fuck's sake ! I can't think of a bigger mistake in modern football management. Alan Shearer in Newcastle. | ||
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