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South Africa4316 Posts
On February 22 2012 01:42 rEiGN~ wrote:
speak up if someone does it, they might not be aware of a queue. if I'd see a bunch of idly people around a squat rack it would make sense to ask if there's a queue here and if it would be possible to squeeze in and squat taking turns.
it annoys me that when I'm occupying the squat rack for a long time and people don't have the balls to come and ask if I'm done soon implying that they'd like to do use it. odds are there's room for two people squatting and pressing together.
Half the time I ask, the other half I don't. Generally I'm not in a rush and most people don't squat for very long, so I don't mind just waiting. Also, the three squat racks at our gym are placed together, so I often just hang around there to see who finishes first. I also usually have one or two friends with me, so sharing a squat rack isn't practical. I dunno, I don't think there's anything wrong with just unobtrusively waiting for people to finish :p
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that's what i thought..i've always felt guilty, but i wasn't sure if i should be because i felt like at least i had the balls to speak up, and hoping by next time, people will have learned to take the initiative and ask. but yeah, asking someone to squeeze in to squat together is so rare at our gym that i almost forgot about it.
i guess next time i'll ask people if i could do squats with them if they're by themselves (this seems a bit intrusive no? i'm putting them into a place where they can't say no if they do not want to - ppl here are just too nice). if that doesn't work or no one is squatting, i guess i'll see if there's a queue and if that person's doing squats, i'll ask him if we can work out together.
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Holidays...gym is closed..
And I'm sad as fuck because of it. 
On the other side, I found a local rugby team :D
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On February 22 2012 00:36 eshlow wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 11:10 Mementoss wrote:
Hey guys, I just have a question regarding Strong lifts. I've been doing it for a while and am at the point where I'm at 1X5 work sets. Does this still mean I should be doing 4 warm up sets, I have been. But was not sure how many reps to do on warm up, I've just been doing 4 sets of 5 rep warm up. Any clarification would be nice thanks. Post what you do in an actual routine
For Squat, Deadlift, OHP day I would:
Squat, 135X5, 185X5, 205X5, 225X5, 245X5 (Work set). On a deload I'd take all the warmups down accordingly.
Deadlift, 135X5 135X5 185X5 225X5 305X5 (Work set).
OHP, (95X5) X 4, 115X5 (Work set)
For Squat, Bench, Row day I would:
Same squat.
Bench (135X5)X2 (145X2)X2 170X5 (Work Set)
Row (135X5)X4 165X5 (Work Set)
For most of the above I tend to keep my warmup sets with 45,35,25 plates so it's easy to remember and doesn't take long to add load on. This is why my OHP warmup looks/is stupid. Occasionally I'll take the preloaded barbells for OHP but it just doesn't feel the same.
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On February 22 2012 02:02 Daigomi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 01:42 rEiGN~ wrote:
speak up if someone does it, they might not be aware of a queue. if I'd see a bunch of idly people around a squat rack it would make sense to ask if there's a queue here and if it would be possible to squeeze in and squat taking turns.
it annoys me that when I'm occupying the squat rack for a long time and people don't have the balls to come and ask if I'm done soon implying that they'd like to do use it. odds are there's room for two people squatting and pressing together. Half the time I ask, the other half I don't. Generally I'm not in a rush and most people don't squat for very long, so I don't mind just waiting. Also, the three squat racks at our gym are placed together, so I often just hang around there to see who finishes first. I also usually have one or two friends with me, so sharing a squat rack isn't practical. I dunno, I don't think there's anything wrong with just unobtrusively waiting for people to finish :p
I solved all the the problems involving other people by working out very early in the morning. Gym is all mine, no awkward interactions with strangers. Bliss.
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On February 22 2012 02:21 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 00:36 eshlow wrote:On February 21 2012 11:10 Mementoss wrote:
Hey guys, I just have a question regarding Strong lifts. I've been doing it for a while and am at the point where I'm at 1X5 work sets. Does this still mean I should be doing 4 warm up sets, I have been. But was not sure how many reps to do on warm up, I've just been doing 4 sets of 5 rep warm up. Any clarification would be nice thanks. Post what you do in an actual routine For Squat, Deadlift, OHP day I would: Squat, 135X5, 185X5, 205X5, 225X5, 245X5 (Work set). On a deload I'd take all the warmups down accordingly. Deadlift, 135X5 135X5 185X5 225X5 305X5 (Work set). OHP, (95X5) X 4, 115X5 (Work set) For Squat, Bench, Row day I would: Same squat. Bench (135X5)X2 (145X2)X2 170X5 (Work Set) Row (135X5)X4 165X5 (Work Set) For most of the above I tend to keep my warmup sets with 45,35,25 plates so it's easy to remember and doesn't take long to add load on. This is why my OHP warmup looks/is stupid. Occasionally I'll take the preloaded barbells for OHP but it just doesn't feel the same.
i'm doing SL5x5 also.... But my warm up for squats do not really count in my 5x5 routine.. I do not know if that is right or wrong :p
For example yesterday I did Squats
135x8
225x3
275x3
315 5x5
Shit load of volume IMO but I like it like that  !
Then I fucked around and hit singles up to 375... Closing in on a 4 plate squat >_< Please God come sooner than later..
The more I think about it, I add so much volume onto my 5x5. Like after I do my big 3, i'll always front squat to max, Jerk, snatch and HangPC... Should I disregard all of the extra stuff? I really enjoy it but I don't know a thing about overtraining etc, if that even applies to me ~_~
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On February 22 2012 03:10 GumThief wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 02:21 Mementoss wrote:On February 22 2012 00:36 eshlow wrote:On February 21 2012 11:10 Mementoss wrote:
Hey guys, I just have a question regarding Strong lifts. I've been doing it for a while and am at the point where I'm at 1X5 work sets. Does this still mean I should be doing 4 warm up sets, I have been. But was not sure how many reps to do on warm up, I've just been doing 4 sets of 5 rep warm up. Any clarification would be nice thanks. Post what you do in an actual routine For Squat, Deadlift, OHP day I would: Squat, 135X5, 185X5, 205X5, 225X5, 245X5 (Work set). On a deload I'd take all the warmups down accordingly. Deadlift, 135X5 135X5 185X5 225X5 305X5 (Work set). OHP, (95X5) X 4, 115X5 (Work set) For Squat, Bench, Row day I would: Same squat. Bench (135X5)X2 (145X2)X2 170X5 (Work Set) Row (135X5)X4 165X5 (Work Set) For most of the above I tend to keep my warmup sets with 45,35,25 plates so it's easy to remember and doesn't take long to add load on. This is why my OHP warmup looks/is stupid. Occasionally I'll take the preloaded barbells for OHP but it just doesn't feel the same. i'm doing SL5x5 also.... But my warm up for squats do not really count in my 5x5 routine.. I do not know if that is right or wrong :p For example yesterday I did Squats 135x8 225x3 275x3 315 5x5 Shit load of volume IMO but I like it like that ! Then I fucked around and hit singles up to 375... Closing in on a 4 plate squat >_< Please God come sooner than later.. The more I think about it, I add so much volume onto my 5x5. Like after I do my big 3, i'll always front squat to max, Jerk, snatch and HangPC... Should I disregard all of the extra stuff? I really enjoy it but I don't know a thing about overtraining etc, if that even applies to me ~_~
Yeah I didn't count my warmups for SL5X5 either but I've been to the point where I deloaded 3 times, went to SL3X5 deloaded 3 more times, and am currently doing SL1X5. Your lifts seem really high to still be at SL5X5 haha. Either your really strong, or missed the concept of switching to SL3X5 and SL1X5. But whatever works.
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Why is it awkward to talk to people?
If someone asks me how many sets I've got left if I'm by myself I offer to let them to rotate in. If it's someone squatting by themselves I will ask to rotate in, people don't mind. If you skip ahead of people waiting without realising, they will tell you they were waiting, and you do the same if you're in their position.
These are only dilemmas for people who can't talk.
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On February 22 2012 04:18 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 03:10 GumThief wrote:On February 22 2012 02:21 Mementoss wrote:On February 22 2012 00:36 eshlow wrote:On February 21 2012 11:10 Mementoss wrote:
Hey guys, I just have a question regarding Strong lifts. I've been doing it for a while and am at the point where I'm at 1X5 work sets. Does this still mean I should be doing 4 warm up sets, I have been. But was not sure how many reps to do on warm up, I've just been doing 4 sets of 5 rep warm up. Any clarification would be nice thanks. Post what you do in an actual routine For Squat, Deadlift, OHP day I would: Squat, 135X5, 185X5, 205X5, 225X5, 245X5 (Work set). On a deload I'd take all the warmups down accordingly. Deadlift, 135X5 135X5 185X5 225X5 305X5 (Work set). OHP, (95X5) X 4, 115X5 (Work set) For Squat, Bench, Row day I would: Same squat. Bench (135X5)X2 (145X2)X2 170X5 (Work Set) Row (135X5)X4 165X5 (Work Set) For most of the above I tend to keep my warmup sets with 45,35,25 plates so it's easy to remember and doesn't take long to add load on. This is why my OHP warmup looks/is stupid. Occasionally I'll take the preloaded barbells for OHP but it just doesn't feel the same. i'm doing SL5x5 also.... But my warm up for squats do not really count in my 5x5 routine.. I do not know if that is right or wrong :p For example yesterday I did Squats 135x8 225x3 275x3 315 5x5 Shit load of volume IMO but I like it like that ! Then I fucked around and hit singles up to 375... Closing in on a 4 plate squat >_< Please God come sooner than later.. The more I think about it, I add so much volume onto my 5x5. Like after I do my big 3, i'll always front squat to max, Jerk, snatch and HangPC... Should I disregard all of the extra stuff? I really enjoy it but I don't know a thing about overtraining etc, if that even applies to me ~_~ Yeah I didn't count my warmups for SL5X5 either but I've been to the point where I deloaded 3 times, went to SL3X5 deloaded 3 more times, and am currently doing SL1X5. Your lifts seem really high to still be at SL5X5 haha. Either your really strong, or missed the concept of switching to SL3X5 and SL1X5. But whatever works.
I have never even thought about SL 3x5 or 1x5 lol... Didn't know it was an option  !!! I figured it was 5x5 till death.
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On February 22 2012 02:21 Mementoss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 00:36 eshlow wrote:On February 21 2012 11:10 Mementoss wrote:
Hey guys, I just have a question regarding Strong lifts. I've been doing it for a while and am at the point where I'm at 1X5 work sets. Does this still mean I should be doing 4 warm up sets, I have been. But was not sure how many reps to do on warm up, I've just been doing 4 sets of 5 rep warm up. Any clarification would be nice thanks. Post what you do in an actual routine For Squat, Deadlift, OHP day I would: Squat, 135X5, 185X5, 205X5, 225X5, 245X5 (Work set). On a deload I'd take all the warmups down accordingly. Deadlift, 135X5 135X5 185X5 225X5 305X5 (Work set). OHP, (95X5) X 4, 115X5 (Work set) For Squat, Bench, Row day I would: Same squat. Bench (135X5)X2 (145X2)X2 170X5 (Work Set) Row (135X5)X4 165X5 (Work Set) For most of the above I tend to keep my warmup sets with 45,35,25 plates so it's easy to remember and doesn't take long to add load on. This is why my OHP warmup looks/is stupid. Occasionally I'll take the preloaded barbells for OHP but it just doesn't feel the same.
Don't count warm ups..... Do heavier work sets.
The reason why you're not making progress is because your warming up and tiring yourself with weights that are easy. Then when you do your work set you're only doing one.
For squat you should do something like:
135x5
185x3
Then work sets would be like this is pyramidal
215x5
225x5
235x5
245x5
255x5
Or just 235/245 5x5 or however many you can rep up at that weight
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On February 22 2012 04:41 Deadeight wrote:
Why is it awkward to talk to people?
If someone asks me how many sets I've got left if I'm by myself I offer to let them to rotate in. If it's someone squatting by themselves I will ask to rotate in, people don't mind. If you skip ahead of people waiting without realising, they will tell you they were waiting, and you do the same if you're in their position.
These are only dilemmas for people who can't talk.
I didn't come to the gym to make conversation. If someone asks me to rotate, I'll rotate, and if I wanna use the squat rack I will ask how many sets the guy has left, but I'd rather shut up and lift without someone tapping their foot behind me waiting for their turn.
Once I was in the shower while my gym was renovating it and there were no stalls. This old guy comes in after me, gets in the shower immediately to my right and starts talking about the weather. I feel I should have been within my rights to kill him. You do not speak in the men's room and you do not speak in the showers. That's against the CODE goddamnit!
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On February 22 2012 02:03 billy5000 wrote:
that's what i thought..i've always felt guilty, but i wasn't sure if i should be because i felt like at least i had the balls to speak up, and hoping by next time, people will have learned to take the initiative and ask. but yeah, asking someone to squeeze in to squat together is so rare at our gym that i almost forgot about it.
i guess next time i'll ask people if i could do squats with them if they're by themselves (this seems a bit intrusive no? i'm putting them into a place where they can't say no if they do not want to - ppl here are just too nice). if that doesn't work or no one is squatting, i guess i'll see if there's a queue and if that person's doing squats, i'll ask him if we can work out together.
you dont say "can we work out together" you say "do you mind if i jump in" or "take turns" or something like that
god forbid a white man ever ask a stranger a question lol
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On February 22 2012 04:41 Deadeight wrote:
Why is it awkward to talk to people?
If someone asks me how many sets I've got left if I'm by myself I offer to let them to rotate in. If it's someone squatting by themselves I will ask to rotate in, people don't mind. If you skip ahead of people waiting without realising, they will tell you they were waiting, and you do the same if you're in their position.
These are only dilemmas for people who can't talk.
coz most of us have retarded anxiety/fear-related issues to varying extent
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On February 22 2012 05:29 Osmoses wrote:
I didn't come to the gym to make conversation. If someone asks me to rotate, I'll rotate, and if I wanna use the squat rack I will ask how many sets the guy has left, but I'd rather shut up and lift without someone tapping their foot behind me waiting for their turn.
Once I was in the shower while my gym was renovating it and there were no stalls. This old guy comes in after me, gets in the shower immediately to my right and starts talking about the weather. I feel I should have been within my rights to kill him. You do not speak in the men's room and you do not speak in the showers. That's against the CODE goddamnit!
lighten up.
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On February 22 2012 00:07 AoN.DimSum wrote:Show nested quote +On February 21 2012 18:12 Sneakyz wrote:On February 21 2012 12:50 Release wrote:On February 21 2012 12:16 Silentness wrote:Silentness Age: 24|| Height: 5'10 Weight: 180 I don't have a weight room nearby me So I just normally run 2 miles in 15-20 minutes or 3 miles with no time limit. I do tons of pushups, flutter kicks, crunches/situps and etc. I use to do Muay Thai practice so that was good working out sessions, but I quit after a while so now I just work out on my own. I'm going to try and hit up the weight room and treadmills/running track more often now. Goals: Lose my gut. Lose 20 lbs. I use to weigh 150 lbs until I met my wife for the first time. GOOD GAME! * Basically right now I eat a lot of chicken breasts, wheat bread, fruits, peanuts, some greens (corn/lettuce and etc) * I'm a start incorporating more protein whey in my diet, but I'm trying to save some money as well. I use to do protein whey diets a lot back in 2007. * Another goal is to show my wife a six pack and instantly lose it because she will feed me to death. Is your wife Asian? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ How important is center of gravity? Today i front squat with 2 45's much easier than two days ago with 2 35's,5's, and 2.5's. Does using less "width" on plates make lifts easier? No, the center of gravity is always in the middle of the barbell assuming no weights have been sliding out. The force will still be exactly the same. There's a ton of things which can make a lift easier than the previous session, sleep, food and water would be the more important ones. Heavier weights on the outside will make the bar feel heavier.
Why would it? That really doesn't make sense to me
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think of a tight-rope walker, balances easier with a long pole rather than a short one. weights far away make stabilising different - more secure but harder to modify. something like that anyway <- my genius brain
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On February 22 2012 05:42 Sneakyz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 00:07 AoN.DimSum wrote:On February 21 2012 18:12 Sneakyz wrote:On February 21 2012 12:50 Release wrote:On February 21 2012 12:16 Silentness wrote:Silentness Age: 24|| Height: 5'10 Weight: 180 I don't have a weight room nearby me So I just normally run 2 miles in 15-20 minutes or 3 miles with no time limit. I do tons of pushups, flutter kicks, crunches/situps and etc. I use to do Muay Thai practice so that was good working out sessions, but I quit after a while so now I just work out on my own. I'm going to try and hit up the weight room and treadmills/running track more often now. Goals: Lose my gut. Lose 20 lbs. I use to weigh 150 lbs until I met my wife for the first time. GOOD GAME! * Basically right now I eat a lot of chicken breasts, wheat bread, fruits, peanuts, some greens (corn/lettuce and etc) * I'm a start incorporating more protein whey in my diet, but I'm trying to save some money as well. I use to do protein whey diets a lot back in 2007. * Another goal is to show my wife a six pack and instantly lose it because she will feed me to death. Is your wife Asian? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ How important is center of gravity? Today i front squat with 2 45's much easier than two days ago with 2 35's,5's, and 2.5's. Does using less "width" on plates make lifts easier? No, the center of gravity is always in the middle of the barbell assuming no weights have been sliding out. The force will still be exactly the same. There's a ton of things which can make a lift easier than the previous session, sleep, food and water would be the more important ones. Heavier weights on the outside will make the bar feel heavier. Why would it? That really doesn't make sense to me
Part of lifting weights is balance and exerting equal force on both sides of your body I guess. The further from your centre of gravity the force is acting, the harder it is to balance I guess.
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On February 22 2012 06:26 emjaytron wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 05:42 Sneakyz wrote:On February 22 2012 00:07 AoN.DimSum wrote:On February 21 2012 18:12 Sneakyz wrote:On February 21 2012 12:50 Release wrote:On February 21 2012 12:16 Silentness wrote:Silentness Age: 24|| Height: 5'10 Weight: 180 I don't have a weight room nearby me So I just normally run 2 miles in 15-20 minutes or 3 miles with no time limit. I do tons of pushups, flutter kicks, crunches/situps and etc. I use to do Muay Thai practice so that was good working out sessions, but I quit after a while so now I just work out on my own. I'm going to try and hit up the weight room and treadmills/running track more often now. Goals: Lose my gut. Lose 20 lbs. I use to weigh 150 lbs until I met my wife for the first time. GOOD GAME! * Basically right now I eat a lot of chicken breasts, wheat bread, fruits, peanuts, some greens (corn/lettuce and etc) * I'm a start incorporating more protein whey in my diet, but I'm trying to save some money as well. I use to do protein whey diets a lot back in 2007. * Another goal is to show my wife a six pack and instantly lose it because she will feed me to death. Is your wife Asian? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ How important is center of gravity? Today i front squat with 2 45's much easier than two days ago with 2 35's,5's, and 2.5's. Does using less "width" on plates make lifts easier? No, the center of gravity is always in the middle of the barbell assuming no weights have been sliding out. The force will still be exactly the same. There's a ton of things which can make a lift easier than the previous session, sleep, food and water would be the more important ones. Heavier weights on the outside will make the bar feel heavier. Why would it? That really doesn't make sense to me Part of lifting weights is balance and exerting equal force on both sides of your body I guess. The further from your centre of gravity the force is acting, the harder it is to balance I guess.
It should get easier to balance the further away it is from your body, because the changes of equilibrium will be easier to counteract.
But this discussion reminds me too much of schoolwork so fuck this.
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On February 22 2012 05:31 FFGenerations wrote:Show nested quote +On February 22 2012 02:03 billy5000 wrote:
that's what i thought..i've always felt guilty, but i wasn't sure if i should be because i felt like at least i had the balls to speak up, and hoping by next time, people will have learned to take the initiative and ask. but yeah, asking someone to squeeze in to squat together is so rare at our gym that i almost forgot about it.
i guess next time i'll ask people if i could do squats with them if they're by themselves (this seems a bit intrusive no? i'm putting them into a place where they can't say no if they do not want to - ppl here are just too nice). if that doesn't work or no one is squatting, i guess i'll see if there's a queue and if that person's doing squats, i'll ask him if we can work out together. you dont say "can we work out together" you say "do you mind if i jump in" or "take turns" or something like that god forbid a white man ever ask a stranger a question lol
i always start with "do you mind if.." and i never minded asking. the guilt is somewhat due to the fact that no one spoke up to tell me that they've been in queue before me. the problem is that i'm from a homogeneous culture (s korea), and i've always assumed that if you don't speak up, it's your loss. or rather, you don't want to squat. someone please tell me, "hey douchebag, wait your turn like everyone else" so i know for sure that i didn't skip the queue if there even existed one. for once i wish there were a protocol for which you call shotgun in the gym.
just came back from doing 3x5 200lb bench for the 100kg bench race, although i'm not sure if i can count the 2nd set cuz this random dude had his pointing fingers on the bar the whole time. i told him that i'm good, you can let go after my 1st rep, but the dude had earphones on wtf. and i also don't see why a "liftoff" for bench is not implied if i'm asking the person to spot me in the first place. as a matter of fact, there should always be a liftoff for any working set
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i wanted to ask that, i often decline (or dont ask for) a "liftoff" and often only ask for a spot for one set. this is because i dont workout with anyone , sometimes there isnt anyone to ask, or im reluctant to ask if someone looks like a jackass or newbie. (also if my first set goes well i try and do the rest without help). so im wondering if you guys doing bench are the same or do you always have a spotter and always have help lifting off or whatever its called?
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