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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 15 2012 20:04 GMT
#6141
I was speed deadlifting and hit myself in the balls

Also, barbell rowing is freaking hard, I can't for some reason stop using my arms instead of my upper back :/
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
August 15 2012 21:03 GMT
#6142
On August 16 2012 05:04 Necosarius wrote:
I was speed deadlifting and hit myself in the balls

Also, barbell rowing is freaking hard, I can't for some reason stop using my arms instead of my upper back :/


I don't know how you feel about bodyweight stuff, but I really enjoy doing the Front Lever/Front Lever Pullups progression as my upper back workout, hard to accidentally use your arms in that :D and if you get the full front lever people will think you're a real badass
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 15 2012 23:21 GMT
#6143
On August 14 2012 00:00 decafchicken wrote:
ughhhhhhhhhhh tried to drop in at a crossfit by my parents and they told me i couldn't do my lifts off to the side because it's a safety hazard. doing anything other than the workout of the day is apparently going to injure everyone. Currently outside of D.C. in NOVA if anyones got any recommendations.

@kona, listen to cambium



YO foo

You gonna be around on Sat or Fri?

I'm right above the beltway in Maryland I could drive down to like Annandale or something and we could grab some Korean BBQ
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 15 2012 23:23 GMT
#6144
On August 15 2012 05:17 ZeaL. wrote:
So TL, I've got a problem. I've started working out over the last 3 months but instead of gaining muscle weight I've been losing weight. I'm 6 ft and 130 lb right now (182 cm, 59 kg) and I've lost about7 lb since I started lifting again. I lift 4 days a week or so and a typical workout would be something like curls, deadlifts, lat pulldowns, tricep pushdowns, and some bicycles. Its not meant to be anything super serious, just something more than sedentaryness. I was also biking 15 miles a day to go to school/back for awhile and when I was biking/lifting my appetite skyrocketed. Currently I only bike on the weekends for recreation.

So what do you guys recommend for this? I am going up in weight slightly but I feel like I'm not getting enough food to gain weight but its hard to force myself to eat more than I already do (and I do eat quite a bit, mostly carbs and lean protein). Should I get some bulking mix or something?


The hell dude....

Deadlifts... get rid of lats pulldowns, triceps and bicycles

Hit up some along with the deadlifts -- SQUATZ, bench press, overhead press, dips, pullups, rows

Compound exercises bro

eat until you are sick every meal to force down the food. Milk if you ain't allergic
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 15 2012 23:25 GMT
#6145
On August 15 2012 12:03 MeShiet wrote:
I never knew how addicted to sugar I am. It's been a little over a week since I've unintentionally stopped drinking pop and juices and now I'm having troubles handling my emotions. Some days I feel great, some days I just explode for no reason what so ever. Needless to say, this isn't helping with my training times increasing. Seems like this is a good time to kick my habit of drinking the stuff for good, and to clarify, this is someone who drank a can of coke maybe twice a week.


Whenever you feel like crap do like 20-25 air squats instead

If you're off and you feel like garbage go do your workout for the day instead. It helps
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 15 2012 23:26 GMT
#6146
On August 15 2012 16:43 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 13 2012 23:20 Cambium wrote:
On August 13 2012 23:02 konadora wrote:
I hope I can do something about my body. After going through some rough times that involved me leading to depression (and thus getting through that by excessive eating and staying at home), i finally decided that my health is getting way out of hand. I used to clock 9mins 30secs running 1.5miles but now i can barely hit 15mins. Doesnt help that im suffering from petalla tendinitis with some weird defect in my knees that has forced me to undergo steroid injection therapy and physiotherapy. The condition has gotten better over the months so i started running again. My knees still hurt but its much better than before. Anyway, here are some info for me lol.
ID: konadora
Weight: 65kg
Height: 176cm
By BMI my weight should be fine but thing is, i feel and i know that most of the weight comes from fats and not muscle mass. My goal is to lose all that fats (mostly in abdominal area + thigh area) and gain muscle mass in return. About the diet, it is kinda hard since im stuck with my army camp's cookhouse food, but i have been selectively choosing which food to eat. I've also been doing exercises such as jogging, cycling and swimming three times a week. I've already lost 7kg over 3months, and i plan to lose a couple more of fats over the next two months. I've also been hitting the gym twice a week to do work out for my chest and arms, which are very thin as compared to my legs.

Is there anything i am doing good/bad and any area i can improve on?
Thanks in advance guys


Only because I <3 U kona:

1. you can't really spot reduce
2. a solid beginner program like SS or SL (read the stickies in this forum) will give you amazing results
3. eating healthy is always good regardless what you are doing
4. cardio is obviously good for you, but you probably don't want to do both weightlifting and cardio at the same time, pick one; I think lifting weight at this point is probably good for you, for 6 months ish at least, it'll give you a very good foundation for physical activities, then you can figure out what you want to do
5. try a program (see #2) rather than coming up with your own or listening to 'that guy'

Yea, I'm recommending SS like everyone else would in this thread, but really, given his goals, it's what's best for him.

And yea, don't drop any more weight, I'd probably aim for 70 Kg as a minimum (you'll still look very good don't worry ) and possibly move up to 75 Kg if you are keen on lifting, or figure out what you want to do after you hit some results. I'm at 179 and varying b/w 75 and 80 depending on how much skin I want to expose

1. Point already taken when I read the sticky threads :p just mentioning them lol.
2. My camp + condo's gym doesn't have a barbell .______. what do I do?
3. + points for me then. Been avoiding rice/bread/noodles/fried and stuff.
4. I feel that I do need to get into shape, all that sitting and lazing around hasn't helped my health. Do I still stop the cardio? In my case, which do I have to do first, or if I can do both, which do I prioritize more? All I want is to be more lean, not too buffed up. I have a slight pear-ish body All I want is to be go around half naked and not have flabs lol. And some meat on my arms/biceps.


Diet = key to losing fat

Come on over to the bodyweight thread if no barbells...
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
August 16 2012 00:29 GMT
#6147
On August 16 2012 06:03 GuiltyJerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 05:04 Necosarius wrote:
I was speed deadlifting and hit myself in the balls

Also, barbell rowing is freaking hard, I can't for some reason stop using my arms instead of my upper back :/


I don't know how you feel about bodyweight stuff, but I really enjoy doing the Front Lever/Front Lever Pullups progression as my upper back workout, hard to accidentally use your arms in that :D and if you get the full front lever people will think you're a real badass

Yeah I'm doing some bodyweight work, like L-sit and handstands. I will probably start working towards a front lever or something since they are indeed badass Just don't know when I want to drop some bodyweight before I start doing them, I can't even do that many pull ups right now (4-3-3)!
Osmoses
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Sweden5302 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 06:38:25
August 16 2012 06:38 GMT
#6148
On August 16 2012 02:06 FFGenerations wrote:
briefly, simultaeniously got fired and gave notice for my job (careworker in dementia) today. basicaly i am too miserable. job gives me constant voices in the head , nightmares, super stress , back pain, negative income etc. mom said i can go live with her for a while since i have proven im not a alcholic fag anymore. work for another 2 weeks then leave (leaving my beautiful gym).

the place where il be living is REDICULOUSLY expensive and i hate it there so not ideal, £85 for a month bus pass, £50-70 per month for gym (not sure) , and 2 hours bus travel to get to gym and back. will look into a scooter type thing tho i got banned from driving few years ago so idk about insurance costs now.

but otherwise, the torture ive been putting mysef thru is finally ending, and my personal growth that will remain is really pleasing. thanks to you all

My brother is going through something similar, he was too afraid to quit his job but he was super happy when he was fired instead :p Hang in there brohan.
Excuse me hun, but what is your name? Vivian? I woke up next to you naked and, uh, did we, um?
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 06:57:04
August 16 2012 06:54 GMT
#6149
Delete please
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 06:57:17
August 16 2012 06:56 GMT
#6150

What's the most accurate Total Daily Energy Expenditure calculator? I got my Health and Wellness textbook today (going into first semester of college in a few weeks :D:D:D:D:D) and I was thumbing through it and found their little calculation for TDEE, and it said by their calculation that my TDEE is something like 2500 (662-[9.53*age]+[15.91*kg BW]+[539xmeters tall]), which is like ridiculous since I'm a pretty small dude (5'7/170cm and 155lb/70kg) and I've seen other calculators guess me as low as 1900.
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-16 08:36:27
August 16 2012 08:35 GMT
#6151
On August 16 2012 15:56 GuiltyJerk wrote:

What's the most accurate Total Daily Energy Expenditure calculator? I got my Health and Wellness textbook today (going into first semester of college in a few weeks :D:D:D:D:D) and I was thumbing through it and found their little calculation for TDEE, and it said by their calculation that my TDEE is something like 2500 (662-[9.53*age]+[15.91*kg BW]+[539xmeters tall]), which is like ridiculous since I'm a pretty small dude (5'7/170cm and 155lb/70kg) and I've seen other calculators guess me as low as 1900.


A healthy young male at normal height and weight, who is reasonably active is never below 2000 kcal for maintenance. 2500kcal could very well be right, but it is a total guessing game. And of course you have to pay attention to what these sites are actually calculating (basal metabolic rate or something else, don't know all the terms by heart). Just get a kitchen scale and a normal scale and figure it out over the course of 4 weeks. It is not rocket science, it just takes some effort. And then you don't have to guess anymore.

For reference (though it won't probably help you much), at 110kg bw and 181cm, with 3x lifting and 3xcardio per week my body goes through roughly 4100kcal per day.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
August 16 2012 09:25 GMT
#6152
On August 16 2012 15:56 GuiltyJerk wrote:

What's the most accurate Total Daily Energy Expenditure calculator? I got my Health and Wellness textbook today (going into first semester of college in a few weeks :D:D:D:D:D) and I was thumbing through it and found their little calculation for TDEE, and it said by their calculation that my TDEE is something like 2500 (662-[9.53*age]+[15.91*kg BW]+[539xmeters tall]), which is like ridiculous since I'm a pretty small dude (5'7/170cm and 155lb/70kg) and I've seen other calculators guess me as low as 1900.



~2500 is reasonable for an active 70kg man, but it's quite dependant on the type of exercise you do and your body composition. At your height, unless you are very muscular and do a lot of composite lifting / sprinting, 2500 is probably a little on the high side for you.

The real way to see what your TDEE is is to track your kcals over time and changes in your bodyweight. Either way, TDEEs are just a ballpark estimate - perhaps if you write why you want to know yours better advice could be given
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20176 Posts
August 16 2012 14:54 GMT
#6153
On August 16 2012 08:21 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2012 00:00 decafchicken wrote:
ughhhhhhhhhhh tried to drop in at a crossfit by my parents and they told me i couldn't do my lifts off to the side because it's a safety hazard. doing anything other than the workout of the day is apparently going to injure everyone. Currently outside of D.C. in NOVA if anyones got any recommendations.

@kona, listen to cambium



YO foo

You gonna be around on Sat or Fri?

I'm right above the beltway in Maryland I could drive down to like Annandale or something and we could grab some Korean BBQ

Ahh crap I just got back to michigan
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
August 16 2012 15:50 GMT
#6154
On August 16 2012 18:25 Sinep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 15:56 GuiltyJerk wrote:

What's the most accurate Total Daily Energy Expenditure calculator? I got my Health and Wellness textbook today (going into first semester of college in a few weeks :D:D:D:D:D) and I was thumbing through it and found their little calculation for TDEE, and it said by their calculation that my TDEE is something like 2500 (662-[9.53*age]+[15.91*kg BW]+[539xmeters tall]), which is like ridiculous since I'm a pretty small dude (5'7/170cm and 155lb/70kg) and I've seen other calculators guess me as low as 1900.



~2500 is reasonable for an active 70kg man, but it's quite dependant on the type of exercise you do and your body composition. At your height, unless you are very muscular and do a lot of composite lifting / sprinting, 2500 is probably a little on the high side for you.

The real way to see what your TDEE is is to track your kcals over time and changes in your bodyweight. Either way, TDEEs are just a ballpark estimate - perhaps if you write why you want to know yours better advice could be given


Mostly I'm just too curious for my own good PP Thanks for the advice guys :D
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
August 16 2012 17:31 GMT
#6155

Never give up, never surrender!
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
August 16 2012 17:39 GMT
#6156
On August 17 2012 00:50 GuiltyJerk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 18:25 Sinep wrote:
On August 16 2012 15:56 GuiltyJerk wrote:

What's the most accurate Total Daily Energy Expenditure calculator? I got my Health and Wellness textbook today (going into first semester of college in a few weeks :D:D:D:D:D) and I was thumbing through it and found their little calculation for TDEE, and it said by their calculation that my TDEE is something like 2500 (662-[9.53*age]+[15.91*kg BW]+[539xmeters tall]), which is like ridiculous since I'm a pretty small dude (5'7/170cm and 155lb/70kg) and I've seen other calculators guess me as low as 1900.



~2500 is reasonable for an active 70kg man, but it's quite dependant on the type of exercise you do and your body composition. At your height, unless you are very muscular and do a lot of composite lifting / sprinting, 2500 is probably a little on the high side for you.

The real way to see what your TDEE is is to track your kcals over time and changes in your bodyweight. Either way, TDEEs are just a ballpark estimate - perhaps if you write why you want to know yours better advice could be given


Mostly I'm just too curious for my own good PP Thanks for the advice guys :D


I've always found 1percentedge.com/ifcalc to be most accurate for me, as long as I'm honest about my bodyfat and activity level.
lyAsakura
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1414 Posts
August 16 2012 21:22 GMT
#6157
On August 17 2012 02:31 MeShiet wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0PZIzQijWY
Never give up, never surrender!


Very certain he did that on purpose.
=D
WeMade FOX would be a deadly SC2 team.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
August 16 2012 22:20 GMT
#6158
On August 16 2012 23:54 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 16 2012 08:21 eshlow wrote:
On August 14 2012 00:00 decafchicken wrote:
ughhhhhhhhhhh tried to drop in at a crossfit by my parents and they told me i couldn't do my lifts off to the side because it's a safety hazard. doing anything other than the workout of the day is apparently going to injure everyone. Currently outside of D.C. in NOVA if anyones got any recommendations.

@kona, listen to cambium



YO foo

You gonna be around on Sat or Fri?

I'm right above the beltway in Maryland I could drive down to like Annandale or something and we could grab some Korean BBQ

Ahh crap I just got back to michigan


WTF.... wow.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9377 Posts
August 17 2012 14:28 GMT
#6159
On August 17 2012 06:22 lyAsakura wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 02:31 MeShiet wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0PZIzQijWY
Never give up, never surrender!


Very certain he did that on purpose.
=D


That was awesome. Truly truly awesome.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
August 17 2012 16:19 GMT
#6160
Began today by unloading and stacking a few tons of hay :D All loosened up for my workout later
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