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One thing im finding conflicting info on is my weight. I'm 6'4 185lb right now, I do have some upper body bulk from my work, but i'm thinking I might be a bit heavy for optimal running?
Probably just a little heavy, specially for longer distances but you might not be at all overweight (i.e. you could just be a more muscular build but as lean as you could/should be). If it's obvious you have some spare fat to lose then yes, training + good diet takes care of that. You're close enough to even ideal running weight's that you shouldn't need any sort of diet. Just running more and eating clean usually does it.
and half to look for some advice on helping someone totally new to running to get to half marathon fitness in around 3 months
First step is just to get the mileage rolling again. Try and shoot for running 30-40mpw (50-60km) in the next month or two, and once a week do a tempo run of about 20-30 minutes at a comfortably hard pace. It shouldn't hurt, but you would be happy to slow down...at the same time if you get it right it actually feels really good as if you're flying along at a really strong pace. Don't go by pace, but a rough guide is current 10K fitness +15-20 seconds per mile.
As you get close (about a month/month and a half out). You should start doing a little bit of a longer run once a week, building to about 10 or so miles. Every other week this longer run can be a little bit more of a workout (i.e. last 20 minutes strong, or first half easy, second half steady).
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Hi guys,
I am a casual runner and I will run a half-marathon (Paris early march). I have already begun training but I don't really know what would be the best way to train. My goal is just to finish the half-marathon, I am not targeting any time but I just want to increase my stamina in order to be comfortable for the marathon day. Atm I am running aprox 3 time per week, 40 min / session and in pretty much the pace I will probably run in the marathon day. Am I doing it right ? Would it be better if I ran longer or faster or if I vary my speed along my training ?
Thx for your help
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Fuck you ice go away I want to run without falling flat on my butt every 5 seconds
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On January 27 2013 21:35 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Fuck you ice go away I want to run without falling flat on my butt every 5 seconds
Grab some old trainers and: SCREW SHOES
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On January 28 2013 02:58 [cF]TridenT wrote:Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 21:35 TheMooseHeed wrote:
Fuck you ice go away I want to run without falling flat on my butt every 5 seconds Grab some old trainers and: SCREW SHOES
Screw shoes are awesome. So is Matt, guy is an absolute beast especially with hills an altitude.
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If you don't want to put holes in your shoes, you can also try some cleats. I've never done screw shoes, but I've found cleats pretty effective. I run outdoors year-round in Edmonton, Alberta, and it gets pretty slippery here in the winter months. I do dislike the way they change your stroke on naked pavement, though, so I only wear them if I know my course will be largely covered in ice or compact snow.
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This is exciting. It seems like I'm being able to go through normal daily movements without noticing much discomfort or "wrongness". Hopefully that means this POS is slowly taking a turn for the better .
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On January 27 2013 18:48 Aloki wrote:
Hi guys,
I am a casual runner and I will run a half-marathon (Paris early march). I have already begun training but I don't really know what would be the best way to train. My goal is just to finish the half-marathon, I am not targeting any time but I just want to increase my stamina in order to be comfortable for the marathon day. Atm I am running aprox 3 time per week, 40 min / session and in pretty much the pace I will probably run in the marathon day. Am I doing it right ? Would it be better if I ran longer or faster or if I vary my speed along my training ?
Thx for your help
This is NOT to pick on you, but I've answered this one at least 15-20 times now. I think I'll just add a default section to the OP in the future for the "Newish and want to run half/full".
In any event, Early March isn't tons of time to prepare but you're only worried about the half. Basically, up your frequency of runs one run per week till you are running six days a week, then add on 3-5 total miles each week distributed as you want. Do perhaps an eight miler here in a few weeks, and one ten miler two weeks before the half. If you get to 30-40mpw by half time with a few runs of eight miles and one of ten you'll have no problem doing the half at all. You won't be able to race it at an aggressive pace but getting through it won't destroy you.
40 min / session and in pretty much the pace I will probably run in the marathon day
This probably works, but I doubt it's your true half marathon pace. HMP is reasonably intense, and usually is a pretty solid workout if done for 40 minutes. An hour at half marathon pace and you will start to move into the territory of working hard and having to dig. There is nothing wrong with training at this pace though in your training occasionally, say once a week. Most of your runs should be easy aerobic mileage though; the kind where if you ran for 40 minutes at that pace you would feel invigorated and not drained.
What time are you shooting for?
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think I need to at least take a full week off running. I seemed to have overdone it a bit last Saturday on a track with some sprints/speed work and now my left ankle seems to be a bit annoyed. Walking there's no pain but when going down stairs or after some light jogging I can feel a bit of pain slightly above the ankle. This has lasted for over a week now, doesn't really hurt much during an actual regular workout but afterwards I've consistently felt slight discomfort. I tried taping it up today but it only seemed to make it a little worse.
I think I'll just take a week off and do some bike over the course of the next week, how much bike should I do though? I'm planning on shooting for just doing around the same amount of time, for example I usually run for 40 minutes on Wednesday so tomorrow I'll do a hard ride for about 40 minutes.
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On January 30 2013 10:57 LuckyFool wrote:
think I need to at least take a full week off running. I seemed to have overdone it a bit last Saturday on a track with some sprints/speed work and now my left ankle seems to be a bit annoyed. Walking there's no pain but when going down stairs or after some light jogging I can feel a bit of pain slightly above the ankle. This has lasted for over a week now, doesn't really hurt much during an actual regular workout but afterwards I've consistently felt slight discomfort. I tried taping it up today but it only seemed to make it a little worse.
I think I'll just take a week off and do some bike over the course of the next week, how much bike should I do though? I'm planning on shooting for just doing around the same amount of time, for example I usually run for 40 minutes on Wednesday so tomorrow I'll do a hard ride for about 40 minutes.
Pretty much as much as you want, provided it doesn't agitate it. I've been biking about 30-40 miles a day for most of my injury, which is like 90-120 minutes of biking depending on intensity/distance. Definitely more time per day on the bike than I spend running, but it doesn't have the same impact stress and consequently you can get away with alot more.
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ah true. I don't expect it to agitate it at all. I'll probably do at least an hour or more then.
I have plenty of time to recover, hopefully it's just a week and nothing more. I don't have any races planned till late April and a half marathon in May.
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Does anyone else notice a difference in difficulty between a treadmill and the track or other flat ground areas? I find running on a treadmill to be a lot easier relative to the same distance elsewhere.
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On February 01 2013 05:36 IamaGrapeMan wrote:
Does anyone else notice a difference in difficulty between a treadmill and the track or other flat ground areas? I find running on a treadmill to be a lot easier relative to the same distance elsewhere.
It's very common to see recommendations made to set the treadmill at roughly 1% incline to compensate for the lack of air resistance on the treadmill.
That said, other factors come into play more, such as miscalibration of treadmills (pretty common that 8:00 pace on treadmill can be anywhere 20-30s north or south of that).
My general personal experience is that I find workouts to be a little bit easier (i.e. mile repeats @ 5:45 pace are easier on treadmill), but easier runs to be slightly more challenging though I suspect with the easier runs it's a mental thing stemming from boredom and the fact that I can't naturally adjust pace/rhythm to fit how I am feeling on that day.
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On February 01 2013 05:41 L_Master wrote:Show nested quote +On February 01 2013 05:36 IamaGrapeMan wrote:
Does anyone else notice a difference in difficulty between a treadmill and the track or other flat ground areas? I find running on a treadmill to be a lot easier relative to the same distance elsewhere. It's very common to see recommendations made to set the treadmill at roughly 1% incline to compensate for the lack of air resistance on the treadmill. That said, other factors come into play more, such as miscalibration of treadmills (pretty common that 8:00 pace on treadmill can be anywhere 20-30s north or south of that). My general personal experience is that I find workouts to be a little bit easier (i.e. mile repeats @ 5:45 pace are easier on treadmill), but easier runs to be slightly more challenging though I suspect with the easier runs it's a mental thing stemming from boredom and the fact that I can't naturally adjust pace/rhythm to fit how I am feeling on that day.
It does seem like most people find treadmill work easier. I am usually the opposite. It has to be a mental thing because even if you're at a very slight incline you're still running in a straight line. Treadmill work I always have done based on time rather than distance. Judging by feel and effort seem to be more useful than whatever distance the treadmill says you covered.
And I'm with LMaster about easy runs being worse on a treadmill. I used to run like a minute or more a mile slower on a treadmill than I ran outside. And it still felt so much harder and seemed to take much longer. Terrible memories you people are bringing up for me.
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Injury seems to be healing. About two days ago it started to not really be noticeable on almost all daily activities. Did 2 laps on the indoor track today (like 250m) and about 3 miles of walking and it seems unbothered so far. Hopefully that holds true tomorrow morning.
Going to give it the weekend of nothing, and then on Monday try an "aggressive" 4-5 mile walk. If that holds i'll start doing rehab type stuff and start with some tiny increments of slow jogging.
Fingers crossed.
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I hope I never have groin issues, seems like extremely annoying injury to get over in more extreme cases. You've been dealing with that for a couple months now it seems L_Master.
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Picked up some bruised ribs and an impact injury on my knee while skiing. Back to the bike! Boo, at least no tears or breaks, hopefully rehab will be quick.
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Well, been an interesting few weeks since I last posted. I'm having the dreadful realization that I'm still years away from being good again at running. With that said, I'm also becoming more positive and accepting of where I'm at and the progess I've made.
I'm still running about 22 miles per week, and I've decided that Saturdays are now "Seven Mile Saturdays". I've completed 3 seven milers in a row on saturdays at about 8 minute pace...considering I wasn't even running 4 months ago I'm extremely happy about that. I'm down a little over 30 lbs, almost back to the 100s!
I got a garmin gps watch and used it for the first time today, its really nice and hopefully I'll enjoy using it over my journey back into running.
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On February 04 2013 03:48 berated- wrote:
Well, been an interesting few weeks since I last posted. I'm having the dreadful realization that I'm still years away from being good again at running. With that said, I'm also becoming more positive and accepting of where I'm at and the progess I've made.
I'm still running about 22 miles per week, and I've decided that Saturdays are now "Seven Mile Saturdays". I've completed 3 seven milers in a row on saturdays at about 8 minute pace...considering I wasn't even running 4 months ago I'm extremely happy about that. I'm down a little over 30 lbs, almost back to the 100s!
I got a garmin gps watch and used it for the first time today, its really nice and hopefully I'll enjoy using it over my journey back into running.
Guess it depends on what you mean by "good". Give it another 3-4 months and another 20-30 pounds and you'll be running at least in the 17s/18s.
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