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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4736 Posts
December 05 2012 17:08 GMT
#1341
Snowed for the first time this winter and I just went out for a run. That is one of my favorite things in the world, running in the darik in a white landscape and feeling the snowflakes on your face.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 05 2012 23:52 GMT
#1342
On December 06 2012 02:08 Malinor wrote:
Snowed for the first time this winter and I just went out for a run. That is one of my favorite things in the world, running in the darik in a white landscape and feeling the snowflakes on your face.


+10

The "calm snows" are awesome like this, and I also love going out in the big storms if for no other reason that I get amused form all the "wtf this kid doing" looks.
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LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-06 04:22:32
December 06 2012 04:21 GMT
#1343
L_Master what are your thoughts on protein shakes. I've been working out with a personal trainer and he recommends them but I feel like this place is trying to sell me stuff that isn't really important. I've been mainly just concentrating on a higher protein diet and cutting out junk food+soda. I feel like shakes are the lazy/quick way out.

The past couple weeks I've really been focusing more on strength workouts (switching every other day between upper body/lower body and abs) in addition to about 12-16 miles a week of running and I feel alot better overall. In the past I really wouldn't focus much on workouts or anything I would spend over half my time in the gym on the treadmill.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 06 2012 04:26 GMT
#1344
From the running side I don't think they are that neccessary. It's always good to get in some protein/carbs (often recommend at 1:2 ratio) after a run/workout, but for something like running your not really damaging or stressing the muscle super terribly, nor are you trying to add significant muscle like in lifting.

Basically, if you enjoy em go for it, but otherwise it's probably unnecessary.

From the lifting side I'd ask Eschlow or some of the other lifting gosu's, but I could see it being a little more beneficial there (not personal experience though).
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 06 2012 04:30 GMT
#1345
On December 05 2012 09:25 Divinek wrote:
So, I'm looking to run a half marathon in about 7-8 months and figure I might as well get started training for it as I have absolutely no ability to run long distances, only experienced as a sprinter really. Does anyone know of/have/can recommend training regimes to prepare for a half marathon? (I would say I'm fit in general, fairly active, and lean but 0 long distance running ability in my experience - like doing 3k probably would make me want to die)

I didn't see anything in the OP too related to it and I know absolutely nothing about training properly and smartly for doing something like this having never done it before. Thanks!


Basically what Airblade said. Just gradually build up with easy running.

If the thought of running 3k makes seems like you dying...your doing it wrong, especially coming from a fit background. Bottom line: ease way back on the throttle. Runs should be EASY, especially when your just starting. If this means your first runs are hardly any faster than walking (6-10+ min/km) that's fine. It will come down quick.

Just gradually build consistency (i.e. add more days per week) till your doing 5-6k or so for five or six days of the week. Then increase the length of each run. If you get a solid month or two in at 50-60+ km/wk you'll have no trouble completing the half.
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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
December 06 2012 05:46 GMT
#1346
On December 06 2012 13:26 L_Master wrote:
From the running side I don't think they are that neccessary. It's always good to get in some protein/carbs (often recommend at 1:2 ratio) after a run/workout, but for something like running your not really damaging or stressing the muscle super terribly, nor are you trying to add significant muscle like in lifting.

Basically, if you enjoy em go for it, but otherwise it's probably unnecessary.

From the lifting side I'd ask Eschlow or some of the other lifting gosu's, but I could see it being a little more beneficial there (not personal experience though).


I'm pretty much with L_Master.

The only time I'd recommend a shake after a run is if you do a very strenuous workout like really tough intervals or a very long run or a race. And even then you don't need to if you can eat an appropriate recovery meal in a timely manner. But these are usually the type of things that only very serious runners do. A protein shake i still just a supplement to regular food.
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
December 06 2012 05:59 GMT
#1347
I apologize in advance if this question is repetitive:

does anyone have a review or a piece of feedback on the Zombie Run type apps for Android? I'm seriously considering downloading it and heard good things about it - but I certainly wouldn't mind a few more anecdotes from TL before slating out 7 bucks for it.
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L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 06 2012 06:33 GMT
#1348
I WANNA BE ABLE TO START RUNNING AGAIN!!

Gonna wait it out another week and a half or so and see if it feels better then...if not definitely time to go doctor hunting.
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Flying Potato
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States77 Posts
December 07 2012 21:36 GMT
#1349
Two questions for you guys:

1. How much running is too much running when your newb? Like, before you have a typical pattern that you normally follow for your runs, how do you determine when your overdoing it, and when your just being lazy? (Where to draw the line basically)

2. How long would it take an almost 16 year old dude who is soso at running currently to be considered "in good shape" or "above average?" And define what you mean by in good shape and above average too please.
Any help is much appreciated.
"Tommorow a stranger will say with masterly good sense precisely what we have thought and felt the whole time" - Ralph Waldo Emerson
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 08 2012 00:00 GMT
#1350
On December 08 2012 06:36 Flying Potato wrote:
Two questions for you guys:

1. How much running is too much running when your newb? Like, before you have a typical pattern that you normally follow for your runs, how do you determine when your overdoing it, and when your just being lazy? (Where to draw the line basically)



This is tricky. The surface answer would seem to be as much as you can handle without with being progressively worn down till the point your so tired everyday you dread the thought of getting out the door and your running speeds start notably decreasing.

However, the complication here is injuries. Too much too soon can cause all kinds of injuries to sneak up on you, and you might feel great for the first month only to be too much for your body to handle structurally and you get some problem like achilles tendonitis, PF, etc.

General guideline is is probably start with 3-4 times of a week of 3 miles or so, and add a day or so per week. From there a safe guideline is usually to add about 2-5 mpw (roughly 10%) to your weekly totaly. Some people can increase much faster than this...but other people have to build up more gradually for their bodies to be able to handle it. We are an experiment of one though, so there is no definitive way for me to tell you start at X miles per week and add y miles per week.


2. How long would it take an almost 16 year old dude who is soso at running currently to be considered "in good shape" or "above average?" And define what you mean by in good shape and above average too please.
Any help is much appreciated.[/QUOTE]

COMPLETELY arbitrary but to me it would be something like this:

Not out of shape = someone who can run a mile in around 7 minutes, and wouldn't be totally exhausted after a 3-4 mile run at 10 min/mile
In good "general" shape = someone who can run about 6:30 for a mile (22ish 5k) and run 5 miles comfortably
In good running shape = someone who can run under 6 for the mile and can comfortably handle runs of 6 miles on a fairly regular basis
Solid runner = someone capable of running sub 5:40 and sub 20:00
Good Runnner
= someone capable of running sub 5:20 and sub 18:30
Legit Runner = someone capable of running sub 5 and sub 17
Local Class = someone capable of running sub 4:40/low 16s
Low Tier College = someone capable of running 4:30/15 mid
D1 Runner/Regional Class = someone capable of running 4:15-20/sub 15/sub 25 (8k)
Good D1 Runner = someone capable of <4:10 mile/sub 14:30 5k
Elite D1 Runner = someone capable of low 4 mile/sub 14 5k
Wtf?! = someone capable of sub 4/sub 13:30
WTF i don't even?!?!? = someone capable of sub 3:50/13:00
The fuck how is that possible o.O?! = 1:40.9/3:26/12:37/26:17

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[cF]TridenT
Profile Joined August 2004
United States665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 01:32:32
December 09 2012 01:31 GMT
#1351
Getting back into this! After a little over a month of 3-4 days a week of running ran 13.1 miles today in 1:41... About at 7:45 pace even though I was shooting for 8 miles today I just decided not to stop Lets hope for more long runs and no injuries!
Takes forever to load but heres 12.9 miles of the run.. accidentally ended the workout early :\
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 04:22:13
December 17 2012 04:20 GMT
#1352
Winter scaring everyone away?

Gonna try a brief run tomorrow and see what happens...keepin fingers crossed lol.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 22 2012 01:41 GMT
#1353
FUCK.

YES!

Our work over at letsrun has paid off. We bugged them enough to acheive the unachievable. The 5,000m WR of Kenenisa Bekele is real. Video exists. It is now on youtube.

I repeat. The video of the 5,000m men's world record IS NOW AVAILABLE. After 8 long years, we can watch hint (hint: it's probably the best race effort ever run.)

THE link:
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TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-24 00:34:53
December 24 2012 00:14 GMT
#1354
After months of training I am finally going to try and run a 5 minute mile tomorrow. Wish me luck! ^^
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
December 25 2012 06:09 GMT
#1355
On December 24 2012 09:14 TheMooseHeed wrote:
After months of training I am finally going to try and run a 5 minute mile tomorrow. Wish me luck! ^^


Good luck! Will it be cold?
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 25 2012 09:15 GMT
#1356
On December 24 2012 09:14 TheMooseHeed wrote:
After months of training I am finally going to try and run a 5 minute mile tomorrow. Wish me luck! ^^


Good luck! Let us know how it goes!
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ljd1131
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Australia83 Posts
December 26 2012 12:42 GMT
#1357
Can someone tell me about shoe's thx
I was using some nimbus 12's and they were good and all, but they're dead now T.T.
So i need some new ones, but they only have nimbus 13 and 14 now so i was wondering what is better and what are the changes etc
TheMooseHeed
Profile Joined July 2010
United Kingdom535 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-26 13:25:47
December 26 2012 13:22 GMT
#1358
On December 25 2012 15:09 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 24 2012 09:14 TheMooseHeed wrote:
After months of training I am finally going to try and run a 5 minute mile tomorrow. Wish me luck! ^^


Good luck! Will it be cold?

It was cold but I knew It was the best possible time before all the eating and partying for christmas/new year :D

Well I wont lie I am a little dissapointed I ran it in a time of 5.30. I mean I guess that is a respectable time for me and there were a few few things that slowed me down roads etc but still...

Gonna chill out over the new year and then get back to training in Jan I think. At least it should be quite easy to beat :D

Thanks to everyone who posts in the various fiintness threads I wouldnt have even started training if it wasnt for you.

Merry christmas and have a good new year!!
''Swarm hosts are the worst thing in the world, I mean terrorism is pretty bad but swarmhosts are worse'' IdrA on ZvZ
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
December 27 2012 18:10 GMT
#1359
On December 26 2012 21:42 ljd1131 wrote:
Can someone tell me about shoe's thx
I was using some nimbus 12's and they were good and all, but they're dead now T.T.
So i need some new ones, but they only have nimbus 13 and 14 now so i was wondering what is better and what are the changes etc


The best thing to do is to try them out for yourself. Go to a running store that lets you pop shoes on and run around a bit. Pick the one that feels the best and consider to any suggestions the person gives you if it's a specialty running store.
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
December 29 2012 01:33 GMT
#1360
By the L_Master scale of running prowess I am officially: In good "general" shape. It took a fair amount of work, been working pretty hard since August. I also will be running in another 5K on New Years Day (technically first 5K of 2013? lol) where I hope to run something in the 22-23 minute range to validate my good "general" shape standing.

My 2013 goal is to become a "Legit Runner." My current plans are to run a semi half marathon in late March and then possibly a marathon in late October. I think if I bump my weekly averages up to 20-30 miles a week I can get into that kind of shape no problem. Thanks for this thread, I read it alot more than I post in it.
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