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Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
November 11 2012 01:35 GMT
#1321
Just tried my first speedwork ever this week with 8x400M. The times went like: 1:45, 1:40, 1:25, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:18.

Boy, it was tough. I felt fine after the first 1:17 lap, but by the time I was doing the 7th lap, I was really feeling it and wanted to stop any moment. It didn't help that I had strong wind pushing against me because the track was on a fairly high altitude and had a wall on one of the sides tunneling the wind.

I'm glad that I finally got around to doing this though and I hope I continue it.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 11 2012 03:04 GMT
#1322
On November 11 2012 10:35 Sein wrote:
Just tried my first speedwork ever this week with 8x400M. The times went like: 1:45, 1:40, 1:25, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:18.

Boy, it was tough. I felt fine after the first 1:17 lap, but by the time I was doing the 7th lap, I was really feeling it and wanted to stop any moment. It didn't help that I had strong wind pushing against me because the track was on a fairly high altitude and had a wall on one of the sides tunneling the wind.

I'm glad that I finally got around to doing this though and I hope I continue it.


First off, what was the recovery between?

Second, what was the goal of the workout?

EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-11 03:25:57
November 11 2012 03:25 GMT
#1323
On November 11 2012 12:04 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 10:35 Sein wrote:
Just tried my first speedwork ever this week with 8x400M. The times went like: 1:45, 1:40, 1:25, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:18.

Boy, it was tough. I felt fine after the first 1:17 lap, but by the time I was doing the 7th lap, I was really feeling it and wanted to stop any moment. It didn't help that I had strong wind pushing against me because the track was on a fairly high altitude and had a wall on one of the sides tunneling the wind.

I'm glad that I finally got around to doing this though and I hope I continue it.


First off, what was the recovery between?

Second, what was the goal of the workout?



90 seconds and the goal I guess is to being able to sustain higher speed in general. I do have a 5k next week as well although I'm sure that's too close for any kind of training at this point now to have any impact.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 11 2012 05:33 GMT
#1324
On November 11 2012 12:25 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 12:04 L_Master wrote:
On November 11 2012 10:35 Sein wrote:
Just tried my first speedwork ever this week with 8x400M. The times went like: 1:45, 1:40, 1:25, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:18.

Boy, it was tough. I felt fine after the first 1:17 lap, but by the time I was doing the 7th lap, I was really feeling it and wanted to stop any moment. It didn't help that I had strong wind pushing against me because the track was on a fairly high altitude and had a wall on one of the sides tunneling the wind.

I'm glad that I finally got around to doing this though and I hope I continue it.


First off, what was the recovery between?

Second, what was the goal of the workout?



90 seconds and the goal I guess is to being able to sustain higher speed in general. I do have a 5k next week as well although I'm sure that's too close for any kind of training at this point now to have any impact.


Hmm, shorter than expected rests. Out of random curiosity do you have any idea of how fast you can run 100m or 400m?

Those kinds of times look pretty promising for running at least 5:30 for the mile, though they aren't as 5k predicative. 8-10x400m off 60s is a pretty classic milers workout and usually the time for the reps indicates what you can run for a mile. It's also a decent 5k sharpening workout.

If the goal is getting some speed, I'd increase the rests, maybe a minute more than what you did for full recovery. The fast, shorter reps are more anaerobic and better for sharpening a few weeks out from a key race.

Some great 5k stuff would be like 12-16x400m w/30-45s recovery, 6-8x800m w/1:30 recovery, or 5-6x1000m w/2:00 recovery. Miles repeats (5-8) off 2-3 minutes aren't bad either, though this is a little less specific and more just a strong aerobic workout (usually run at 10k pace or little slower). Mile repeats can also be used for 5k sharpening,but in that case it's generally 3-4 at most off like 1-2 min rest.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
November 11 2012 21:56 GMT
#1325
On November 11 2012 14:33 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 12:25 Sein wrote:
On November 11 2012 12:04 L_Master wrote:
On November 11 2012 10:35 Sein wrote:
Just tried my first speedwork ever this week with 8x400M. The times went like: 1:45, 1:40, 1:25, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:18.

Boy, it was tough. I felt fine after the first 1:17 lap, but by the time I was doing the 7th lap, I was really feeling it and wanted to stop any moment. It didn't help that I had strong wind pushing against me because the track was on a fairly high altitude and had a wall on one of the sides tunneling the wind.

I'm glad that I finally got around to doing this though and I hope I continue it.


First off, what was the recovery between?

Second, what was the goal of the workout?



90 seconds and the goal I guess is to being able to sustain higher speed in general. I do have a 5k next week as well although I'm sure that's too close for any kind of training at this point now to have any impact.


Hmm, shorter than expected rests. Out of random curiosity do you have any idea of how fast you can run 100m or 400m?

Those kinds of times look pretty promising for running at least 5:30 for the mile, though they aren't as 5k predicative. 8-10x400m off 60s is a pretty classic milers workout and usually the time for the reps indicates what you can run for a mile. It's also a decent 5k sharpening workout.

If the goal is getting some speed, I'd increase the rests, maybe a minute more than what you did for full recovery. The fast, shorter reps are more anaerobic and better for sharpening a few weeks out from a key race.

Some great 5k stuff would be like 12-16x400m w/30-45s recovery, 6-8x800m w/1:30 recovery, or 5-6x1000m w/2:00 recovery. Miles repeats (5-8) off 2-3 minutes aren't bad either, though this is a little less specific and more just a strong aerobic workout (usually run at 10k pace or little slower). Mile repeats can also be used for 5k sharpening,but in that case it's generally 3-4 at most off like 1-2 min rest.


Nope, I haven't tried timing a full 100M or 400M sprint before. 12-16x400M sounds like a ton of running. How fast should I be running those because I wouldn't be able to handle that at the pace I was running couple days ago?
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 11 2012 23:03 GMT
#1326
On November 12 2012 06:56 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 11 2012 14:33 L_Master wrote:
On November 11 2012 12:25 Sein wrote:
On November 11 2012 12:04 L_Master wrote:
On November 11 2012 10:35 Sein wrote:
Just tried my first speedwork ever this week with 8x400M. The times went like: 1:45, 1:40, 1:25, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:17, 1:18.

Boy, it was tough. I felt fine after the first 1:17 lap, but by the time I was doing the 7th lap, I was really feeling it and wanted to stop any moment. It didn't help that I had strong wind pushing against me because the track was on a fairly high altitude and had a wall on one of the sides tunneling the wind.

I'm glad that I finally got around to doing this though and I hope I continue it.


First off, what was the recovery between?

Second, what was the goal of the workout?



90 seconds and the goal I guess is to being able to sustain higher speed in general. I do have a 5k next week as well although I'm sure that's too close for any kind of training at this point now to have any impact.


Hmm, shorter than expected rests. Out of random curiosity do you have any idea of how fast you can run 100m or 400m?

Those kinds of times look pretty promising for running at least 5:30 for the mile, though they aren't as 5k predicative. 8-10x400m off 60s is a pretty classic milers workout and usually the time for the reps indicates what you can run for a mile. It's also a decent 5k sharpening workout.

If the goal is getting some speed, I'd increase the rests, maybe a minute more than what you did for full recovery. The fast, shorter reps are more anaerobic and better for sharpening a few weeks out from a key race.

Some great 5k stuff would be like 12-16x400m w/30-45s recovery, 6-8x800m w/1:30 recovery, or 5-6x1000m w/2:00 recovery. Miles repeats (5-8) off 2-3 minutes aren't bad either, though this is a little less specific and more just a strong aerobic workout (usually run at 10k pace or little slower). Mile repeats can also be used for 5k sharpening,but in that case it's generally 3-4 at most off like 1-2 min rest.


Nope, I haven't tried timing a full 100M or 400M sprint before. 12-16x400M sounds like a ton of running. How fast should I be running those because I wouldn't be able to handle that at the pace I was running couple days ago?


No you wouldn't be able to. Usually a session like that is run at 3k-5k pace. 90s rest would be a little long for a session of those at 5k pace, but not a bad starting point if you've never done that workout before.

It's hard to know exactly what your 5k pace would be, because based on that interval session it could be as quick as 18:30, or as high as 21+ depending on how maxed you were in the workout and how well your endurance extends.

Pretty simple progression would just be to do like 12x400, 16x400, 6x800, 8x800, 5x1000, 6x1000, though alot of what your doing would depend on when your goal race.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
[cF]TridenT
Profile Joined August 2004
United States665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 07:36:00
November 13 2012 07:27 GMT
#1327
So I use to be an extremely strong runner but in the past 8 years or so I've probably only ran around 100 miles. I just started running again and I fear I'm going to injure myself by starting out to hard. Here is how my training has gone so far:


January 2004 - September 2012: About 10 - 15 runs a year never over 4 miles usually at about an 8 minute pace..
October 2012 - About 2 runs a week usually about 1.5 - 2.5 miles at around 7:45 pace
November 1st - 4 mile run at 8:15 pace
November 4th - 2 mile run at 7:45 pace
November 5th - 2 mile run at 7:45 pace
November 6th - 2 mile run at 11:00 pace (Jogged/walked with GF)
November 7th - 5 mile run at 8:00 pace
November 8th - 4 mile run at 7:25 pace
November 10th - 6 mile run at 8:50 pace
November 12th - 3 mile run at 6:45 pace

The days that I did not run I was working double shifts as a server. Ill sometimes work from 10:45am to 10:45 pm in the process walking upwards of 10 miles. I bike around 6-10 miles a day to commute to my jobs (5-6 days a week). I'm thinking all the exercise at work + biking is allowing me to jump back into running quickly but I'm scared I'm going in too fast. I have yet to experience anything more than sore legs and really don't want to slow down.

Ill be running a turkey trot on Thanksgiving to see where I'm at so I can set some goals. I hoping to run under 21 but I could be shooting a bit high. I am currently 5'9 165lbs and when I stopped running I was 5'9 117lbs and ran a 15:35 5k in 2003.

I look forward to posting my progress and hope I wont be hindered by any injuries!
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
November 13 2012 08:55 GMT
#1328
On November 13 2012 16:27 [cF]TridenT wrote:
So I use to be an extremely strong runner but in the past 8 years or so I've probably only ran around 100 miles. I just started running again and I fear I'm going to injure myself by starting out to hard. Here is how my training has gone so far:


January 2004 - September 2012: About 10 - 15 runs a year never over 4 miles usually at about an 8 minute pace..
October 2012 - About 2 runs a week usually about 1.5 - 2.5 miles at around 7:45 pace
November 1st - 4 mile run at 8:15 pace
November 4th - 2 mile run at 7:45 pace
November 5th - 2 mile run at 7:45 pace
November 6th - 2 mile run at 11:00 pace (Jogged/walked with GF)
November 7th - 5 mile run at 8:00 pace
November 8th - 4 mile run at 7:25 pace
November 10th - 6 mile run at 8:50 pace
November 12th - 3 mile run at 6:45 pace

The days that I did not run I was working double shifts as a server. Ill sometimes work from 10:45am to 10:45 pm in the process walking upwards of 10 miles. I bike around 6-10 miles a day to commute to my jobs (5-6 days a week). I'm thinking all the exercise at work + biking is allowing me to jump back into running quickly but I'm scared I'm going in too fast. I have yet to experience anything more than sore legs and really don't want to slow down.

Ill be running a turkey trot on Thanksgiving to see where I'm at so I can set some goals. I hoping to run under 21 but I could be shooting a bit high. I am currently 5'9 165lbs and when I stopped running I was 5'9 117lbs and ran a 15:35 5k in 2003.

I look forward to posting my progress and hope I wont be hindered by any injuries!


Does not compute. Even if that 3M was a race effort you'll still be faster than that in a race, not to mention you have several more weeks till showtime. I think there is a decent chance you break twenty, especially if that 6:45 run was reasonably controlled and not deep in the pain zone.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
[cF]TridenT
Profile Joined August 2004
United States665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-13 09:18:24
November 13 2012 09:17 GMT
#1329
Yeah I changed it from breaking 20 to breaking 21 after reading some posts. The 3 mile run was actually 2.88 in 20:05 with three 30 second breaks while waiting for stop lights. I was fairly strained but I didn't know I was going to run quickly until 3/4 of the way through the first mile which ended up being around 7:30 and I know the last mile was 6:20. I guess I don't really want to get my hopes too high and end up tanking with a 22 minute race. Going to try and keep it a bit slower to avoid hurting myself before the race its just my body is so use to running fast it hard for me to keep it slow.
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
caznitch
Profile Joined July 2012
Canada645 Posts
November 13 2012 18:14 GMT
#1330
Haven't been on here in a while. I busted up my knee the other day and it's not getting better so I'm going to get it checked out today. I'm not happy about this as it feels like a couple months recovery type injury. Really sucks as my running has improved dramatically lately.

Any ideas on what I effed up? I can stand/put pressure on my knee without pain. Bending my knee (even when walking) causes a lot of pain though. Hoping is some bruised ligament as I'd think I wouldn't be able to stand on it if it were the actual bone that is injured.
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LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
November 18 2012 09:58 GMT
#1331
The gf and I just did a 5k mud run today.. It was loads of fun! Pretty cold though.
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[cF]TridenT
Profile Joined August 2004
United States665 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-18 20:13:36
November 18 2012 20:12 GMT
#1332
On November 18 2012 18:58 LovE- wrote:
The gf and I just did a 5k mud run today.. It was loads of fun! Pretty cold though.
Just wanted to post up some pics

I really want to do one of those now that I'm back to running! Looks like you and the lady friend had fun

So it was my birthday on Friday and my girlfriend got me this MOTOACTV GPS Watch and I used it for the first time this morning. From first use I think its going to be awesome and extremely helpful in keeping me motivated. I've had some knee issues at the 1.5 mile mark so I decided to cut the run at 2 miles and walk back: FIRST RUN WITH THE NEW WATCH The pace is including a 30 second or so wait at a stoplight so its not 100% accurate. Still learning how to have it not factor in the times I need to stop at lights.

Though I only have around 33 miles under my belt in the past three weeks I think I'm going to run the LA Marathon. If I stay injury free when putting in the miles I'm sure I'll be ready in 4 months to run it. Lets just hope I can stay healthy and be able to pile on the miles!
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
[cF]TridenT
Profile Joined August 2004
United States665 Posts
November 23 2012 07:54 GMT
#1333
Ran my Turkey Trot today and placed 2nd in my age division in a field of 1500+ runners. Barely hit my goal of breaking 20 by running a 19:57 which I am really proud of seeing as though I'm coming off an 8 year break. Here is a link to my pacing during the race via my GPS watch: Take away 10 second because I was too exhausted to hit stop at the end. My splits were actually really good 1st mile:6:41 2nd: 6:37 3rd: 6:11. Well I'm super excited to have a starting point to gauge my improvement since its been less than a month back and I have so much training to do!
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
December 01 2012 16:26 GMT
#1334
Went for a run for the first time in a long time (it's so nice out for December!) Easy 5k at 30 min. PR for my chihuahua/pomeranian
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 02 2012 00:58 GMT
#1335
Man, it would be really nice if this injury would go away. Tweaked my hip/inner quad on a run while back, then made the mistake of continuing a workout when it started to hurt. Planned to take 3 weeks of, but its already been 4 and still feel it is I try to run T_T
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
December 02 2012 06:59 GMT
#1336
On December 02 2012 09:58 L_Master wrote:
Man, it would be really nice if this injury would go away. Tweaked my hip/inner quad on a run while back, then made the mistake of continuing a workout when it started to hurt. Planned to take 3 weeks of, but its already been 4 and still feel it is I try to run T_T

T_______T any remedial exercises/stretching you can do for that?
Sup.
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
December 02 2012 07:06 GMT
#1337
On December 02 2012 15:59 dudeman001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 02 2012 09:58 L_Master wrote:
Man, it would be really nice if this injury would go away. Tweaked my hip/inner quad on a run while back, then made the mistake of continuing a workout when it started to hurt. Planned to take 3 weeks of, but its already been 4 and still feel it is I try to run T_T

T_______T any remedial exercises/stretching you can do for that?


Not really sure what the problem is, so nothing comes to mind.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
December 05 2012 00:25 GMT
#1338
So, I'm looking to run a half marathon in about 7-8 months and figure I might as well get started training for it as I have absolutely no ability to run long distances, only experienced as a sprinter really. Does anyone know of/have/can recommend training regimes to prepare for a half marathon? (I would say I'm fit in general, fairly active, and lean but 0 long distance running ability in my experience - like doing 3k probably would make me want to die)

I didn't see anything in the OP too related to it and I know absolutely nothing about training properly and smartly for doing something like this having never done it before. Thanks!
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AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2573 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 01:14:21
December 05 2012 00:51 GMT
#1339
On December 05 2012 09:25 Divinek wrote:
So, I'm looking to run a half marathon in about 7-8 months and figure I might as well get started training for it as I have absolutely no ability to run long distances, only experienced as a sprinter really. Does anyone know of/have/can recommend training regimes to prepare for a half marathon? (I would say I'm fit in general, fairly active, and lean but 0 long distance running ability in my experience - like doing 3k probably would make me want to die)

I didn't see anything in the OP too related to it and I know absolutely nothing about training properly and smartly for doing something like this having never done it before. Thanks!


There is a section on new runners in the OP that you can check out.

Start by running what you think is reasonable for you. If 3k is too much then just go 2k or 1k or whatever you can muster. Just get out there and start running. Run slow and for distances that aren't too challenging for now. Try to run 3 times a week to start and see how you feel. Listen to your body and if things hurt or are too challenging then you need to adjust accordingly.

You just need to keep things simple for now and see how you progress, then after a month or two so you can consider doing some long runs and workouts. Gradually build up the distance you run and how many days a week you run. Be very conservative while building up. You have about 34 weeks so there is no rush.

An example of what you could try for the first few weeks:

Week 1: Run 2km 3 days
Week 2: Run 3km 3 days
Week 3: Run 3km 3 days
Week 4: Run 4.5km 3 days
Week 5: Run 6km 3 days
Week 6: Run 6km 4 days
Week 7: Run 7km 4 days
Week 8: Run 8.5km 4 days

Edit: I forgot I was using km
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
December 05 2012 01:17 GMT
#1340
I see, thank you, I'm very much a concrete example kind of person so I appreciate that alot
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