On January 01 2013 14:52 Sein wrote: The biggest problem so far is just having the patience to stay on treadmill for over 30 minutes,
Something great has been invented some time ago, it's called "outside". I hear it's great for running.
Ya not really sure why you torture yourself this way. I do it for extreme days when there is like a a foot or more of unbroken powder, but aside from that I prefer to run outside (I actually will run workouts on the treadmill if the track is icy/snowy).
90+ minute runs on the treadmill get a bit tedious, even when you have good music.
On January 01 2013 14:52 Sein wrote: The biggest problem so far is just having the patience to stay on treadmill for over 30 minutes,
Something great has been invented some time ago, it's called "outside". I hear it's great for running.
Ya not really sure why you torture yourself this way. I do it for extreme days when there is like a a foot or more of unbroken powder, but aside from that I prefer to run outside (I actually will run workouts on the treadmill if the track is icy/snowy).
90+ minute runs on the treadmill get a bit tedious, even when you have good music.
It's subzero outside =(
I still run outside in those conditions unless its super windy. Just get a decent long sleeve undershirt that breathes and a good, moderately thick windbreaker. Obviously good hats and gloves are a must.
I end up running very little outside in the coldest winter months. It's always dark when I get home from work as well from November-Feb and I hate running in the dark, so I end up running like 80% of the time on a treadmill for a few months, usually no more than 30 minutes at a time though which is about enough time for 4 miles for an average workout for me right now. I definitely prefer running on track or paths during the majority of the year though.
I don't know... I need a HR monitor or something. I think my weakness is the mental part. Especially when I'm running on my own. It's hard as hell to find somebody willing to dedicate 4 days/week to run with a partner.
On January 02 2013 11:47 Cecil wrote: I don't know... I need a HR monitor or something. I think my weakness is the mental part. Especially when I'm running on my own. It's hard as hell to find somebody willing to dedicate 4 days/week to run with a partner.
Try getting 4 different people to dedicate 1 day a week.
On January 02 2013 11:47 Cecil wrote: I don't know... I need a HR monitor or something. I think my weakness is the mental part. Especially when I'm running on my own. It's hard as hell to find somebody willing to dedicate 4 days/week to run with a partner.
Try getting 4 different people to dedicate 1 day a week.
Well, it sounds like your training okay. Most of your runs don't even need to be hard.
But if your racing at the same pace your training, which you're describing as fairly relaxed and conversation your racing races way, way easy. A race will feel fast by the start, by the middle your definitely hurting, and the last 30% or so you're just desperately holding on.
If you haven't felt in races before, by 1/4 before the end (i.e. 4.5 miles into 10k) that "holy shit I wanna die" feeling you're racing too easy. I find the best way to deal with it is to stay in the present. Just focus on your rhythm, cadence, etc. Don't think about how far you have to go or how much longer you have to hurt...that's where it gets easy to give in.
As someone once said "the present pain is always bearable. It's the imagined pain that makes you give in". If you really think about that and pay attention to exactly how you feel now, you'll find it's not that bad, but it really is easy to think about how much more it might hurt, and that imagine pain makes it feel worse.
I'm being talked into doing a half marathon this spring... we'll see. I was debating that or a double mudder like Cecil Either way I need to get back on the horse and run.
Our work over at letsrun has paid off. We bugged them enough to acheive the unachievable. The 5,000m WR of Kenenisa Bekele is real. Video exists. It is now on youtube.
I repeat. The video of the 5,000m men's world record IS NOW AVAILABLE. After 8 long years, we can watch hint (hint: it's probably the best race effort ever run.)
Our work over at letsrun has paid off. We bugged them enough to acheive the unachievable. The 5,000m WR of Kenenisa Bekele is real. Video exists. It is now on youtube.
I repeat. The video of the 5,000m men's world record IS NOW AVAILABLE. After 8 long years, we can watch hint (hint: it's probably the best race effort ever run.)
Ye, it's pretty unreal. At least to me it looks like the pacer and guy that tries to hang with him for a bit are flying, but Bekele just looks smooth and cruisin. Didn't really seem to be working hard until around 10:00.
8:00-8:20 is both ridiculous and beautiful at the same time, just effortlessly dropping a 59.
1) Want to finish a half? 20 mpw. 2) Want to run a half? 30-40 mpw. 3) Want to race a half? 50-60 mpw. 4) Want to really race a half? 70+ mpw.
And a lot of other posts suggest either at least this much or more for HM training.
Not sure how applicable this is... I was running maybe 15 mpw or less before my first half a few weeks ago. I was planning on aiming for around 25 mpw for the next one.
Our work over at letsrun has paid off. We bugged them enough to acheive the unachievable. The 5,000m WR of Kenenisa Bekele is real. Video exists. It is now on youtube.
I repeat. The video of the 5,000m men's world record IS NOW AVAILABLE. After 8 long years, we can watch hint (hint: it's probably the best race effort ever run.)
Ye, it's pretty unreal. At least to me it looks like the pacer and guy that tries to hang with him for a bit are flying, but Bekele just looks smooth and cruisin. Didn't really seem to be working hard until around 10:00.
8:00-8:20 is both ridiculous and beautiful at the same time, just effortlessly dropping a 59.
He looks nothing like someone running at 4 minute mile pace....wow
Our work over at letsrun has paid off. We bugged them enough to acheive the unachievable. The 5,000m WR of Kenenisa Bekele is real. Video exists. It is now on youtube.
I repeat. The video of the 5,000m men's world record IS NOW AVAILABLE. After 8 long years, we can watch hint (hint: it's probably the best race effort ever run.)
Ye, it's pretty unreal. At least to me it looks like the pacer and guy that tries to hang with him for a bit are flying, but Bekele just looks smooth and cruisin. Didn't really seem to be working hard until around 10:00.
8:00-8:20 is both ridiculous and beautiful at the same time, just effortlessly dropping a 59.
That was crazy. Other than being impressed by how amazing that race was, is there anything you hope to glean out of the video?
Our work over at letsrun has paid off. We bugged them enough to acheive the unachievable. The 5,000m WR of Kenenisa Bekele is real. Video exists. It is now on youtube.
I repeat. The video of the 5,000m men's world record IS NOW AVAILABLE. After 8 long years, we can watch hint (hint: it's probably the best race effort ever run.)
Ye, it's pretty unreal. At least to me it looks like the pacer and guy that tries to hang with him for a bit are flying, but Bekele just looks smooth and cruisin. Didn't really seem to be working hard until around 10:00.
8:00-8:20 is both ridiculous and beautiful at the same time, just effortlessly dropping a 59.
That was crazy. Other than being impressed by how amazing that race was, is there anything you hope to glean out of the video?
Can't really say so. Mostly just love watching great runners do their thing!
Read all of Running with the Kenyans this afternoon as a motivator for a spur of the moment 10km fun run tomorrow. Not aiming for any specific time, just to make it over the finish line with nothing left in the tank.
Is running on hilly terrain detrimental to overal times or does it have no effect? I kinda feel that I use more energy running up hill and waste energy keeping stable slowing myself down when going down hills but that may be just me.
On January 06 2013 00:34 TheMooseHeed wrote: Is running on hilly terrain detrimental to overal times or does it have no effect? I kinda feel that I use more energy running up hill and waste energy keeping stable slowing myself down when going down hills but that may be just me.
Yes, hilly terrain will always be slower even if the net elevation change is zero. You don't make back on the downhill what you lost on the uphill.
On January 06 2013 00:34 TheMooseHeed wrote: Is running on hilly terrain detrimental to overal times or does it have no effect? I kinda feel that I use more energy running up hill and waste energy keeping stable slowing myself down when going down hills but that may be just me.
Yes, hilly terrain will always be slower even if the net elevation change is zero. You don't make back on the downhill what you lost on the uphill.
Well that gives me some hope that I can break the 5.30 mark this year. I will just have to find a mile stretch with no hills. Easy said then done I fear ^^
On January 06 2013 00:34 TheMooseHeed wrote: Is running on hilly terrain detrimental to overal times or does it have no effect? I kinda feel that I use more energy running up hill and waste energy keeping stable slowing myself down when going down hills but that may be just me.
Yes, hilly terrain will always be slower even if the net elevation change is zero. You don't make back on the downhill what you lost on the uphill.
Well that gives me some hope that I can break the 5.30 mark this year. I will just have to find a mile stretch with no hills. Easy said then done I fear ^^
I hear 400M tracks are good for that sort of no hills thing
After 3 more mi tomorrow I'll have put in another 20mi this week. Feel pretty good for the most part. I've also decided to not play cards during lunch at work and go run since our facilities have showers. It's a lot more boring but it will be better for me in the long run.
Though it's actually showing signs of getting a little better this week. Been putting in about 200-300 mpw in on the stationary bike (thank god for snipealot2) for the last few weeks, so at least overall cardiovascular fitness will be there when I start back.
@Moosehead - Track is by far the best option. It's generally a faster surface than even a flat road and is obviously flat itself.
I just think I would just feel a bit silly paying to get on my local 400m track (not quite sure how much it is) to do 5-6mintues of running and then leaving When I say local it is still quite a trek to get there too. I guess I will just have to train hard enough to know I will vastly imrpove my time for it to be worth a visit.
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Either way I need to get back on the horse and run.
When I say local it is still quite a trek to get there too. I guess I will just have to train hard enough to know I will vastly imrpove my time for it to be worth a visit.
