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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 14 2013 19:45 GMT
#941
On May 12 2013 12:34 Namunelbo wrote:
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On May 12 2013 10:57 ieatkids5 wrote:
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whole grain cereals may be better than cornflakes, but it'll be even healthier for you to just eat non-processed meats, veggies, and fruit. same with salty crackers.

here are some breakfast ideas that are easy to make:

- fruits
bananas, apples, citrus fruits, berries, pears, etc
eat them whole or stick em in a blender and make a lot to last you a couple days.

- omelettes
eggs + whatever the fuck you want = deliciousness
carrots, mushrooms, spinach, kale, peppers, onions, bacon, ground beef, sliced pork, tuna... let your imagination be the limit. if you're concerned about time, you can make a lot and keep them in the fridge. microwave reheating won't taste as good as freshly made omelettes, but still good.

- salads
i used to hate salads, but i began liking them more and more as i ate them more often. i usually buy the "spring mix" assortment, or "spinach + power greens" whatever your grocery store calls them. of course, just veggies is boring, so you can add a bit of olive oil to taste, and whatever meat you desire - canned tuna and salmon are good. turkey breast also goes pretty well with salads.



Yeah, I should probably just cut all the processed food.

Started doing some kind of non strict paleo a few months back (only mid carbs on training days, while on rest day trying to keep it low), aside from the mentioned before as rest days' snacks, it has been all fresh food so far.

For cereals I guess there's a direct substitute (whole grain, oat and maybe muesli), but for crackers it is most likely a direct cut, and since I ate those more than the cereals (cravings on rest day), I think I kind of went over with them... So cutting them along the greek yogurt might be the best choice.
Fruits and nuts should be a good substitute for the crackers, without going overload with the nuts.

Thanks for the suggestions.


Potatoes (both sweet and white) are more filling for the amount of carbs they have (white rice as well but less filling) and less likely to be an irritant of your gut than grains.

I would suggest moving over to potatoes and rice instead if you need some "clean carbs" in the diet beyond fruits, vegetables, and potentially milk
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
May 15 2013 04:07 GMT
#942
On May 11 2013 23:18 eshlow wrote:
Cambium,

LDL doesn't matter much unless you get it fractionated to differentiate which subtypes you have.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-density_lipoprotein#LDL_subtype_patterns

Basically, if you have the "big fluffy" you have very low risk of CVD/stroke/etc.

But if you have the "small dense" you have a higher chance.

Generally speaking, you only get the small dense if you eat a lot of refined carbohydrates and eliminate good fats from your diet....

So if you don't have a fractionated LDL it's useless to speculate whether you have increased risk or not... and if your doctor doesn't say this then they don't know what they're talking about.


Hey thanks for the explanation. Unfortunately, they didn't break down the LDL number into subtypes (I wonder how many people know/care), it's just a sheet of paper with numbers, as the results came from labs. I'm guessing I can bring the sheet back to the doc and ask.

In the meantime, I'll just do what I've been doing until my body tells me otherwise. Thanks!
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
May 15 2013 04:09 GMT
#943
What's our take on steel cut irish oats?
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mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
May 15 2013 15:34 GMT
#944
TIL about Irish and Scottish oats... weird.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
GuiltyJerk
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States584 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-15 22:16:49
May 15 2013 22:13 GMT
#945
On May 15 2013 13:09 Cambium wrote:
What's our take on steel cut irish oats?



I loooooooooooove me some Irish oats they're so filling and delicious I'm not certain as to their health values and such. They are a grain so I think that may be going against them, but they're not wheat based so maybe not
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
May 15 2013 22:24 GMT
#946
Eshlow, idk if you covered this in the OP (I don't really have the chance to look right this second, but just tell me it's in the OP and I'll read it whenever I get the chance), but what's your official opinion on milk?

I've heard some professional trainers and nutritionists kind of stray away from it just because they don't think humans should drink something intended for a baby cow, but I trust your opinion on the matter. I can't drink milk regardless cause I'm slightly lactose intolerant, but I'd like to hear what your opinion on milk is. It obviously can't be horrible for you, but didn't know which side of the argument you agreed with.
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-16 00:56:03
May 16 2013 00:55 GMT
#947
I believe it's not a big deal if you don't have an intolerance. You can test this by going without for a few weeks then adding it back in. Try to keep the diet the same to eliminate other variables and see how your body responds. I just did this myself actually, kinda unintentionally and I'm not feeling so great after two glasses. Could just be the big meal after activity but it may indicate I should avoid dairy. (which sucks for bulking but I'm not really trying atm so w/e)
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 16 2013 04:18 GMT
#948
Pretty much what mordek said.... if you don't have an intolerance or allergy to it then it's probably fine.

That's for most food.
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autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
May 16 2013 22:52 GMT
#949
What if I'm not allergic to twinkies?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 17 2013 01:52 GMT
#950
On May 17 2013 07:52 autoexec wrote:
What if I'm not allergic to twinkies?


If it's processed don't eat it :p
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autoexec
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States530 Posts
May 17 2013 19:33 GMT
#951
I know. I have actually stayed off processed foods for some time now (ice cream is my weakness), and I am starting to notice it is helping my attention, sleep, and body! :D
MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
May 25 2013 11:51 GMT
#952
So I've been reading a little bit about soy since I've been eating edamame. I've heard reports say that soy is amazing for you and all these great benefits of it, and then some slightly less reputable sites say that it's horrible for you and causes diseases and cancers and all this other stuff. Should I believe these "independent studies" or am I safe eating it? I eat edamame maybe once or twice a week at most in a quantity of about half a bowl.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 14:10:08
May 25 2013 14:09 GMT
#953
On May 25 2013 20:51 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
So I've been reading a little bit about soy since I've been eating edamame. I've heard reports say that soy is amazing for you and all these great benefits of it, and then some slightly less reputable sites say that it's horrible for you and causes diseases and cancers and all this other stuff. Should I believe these "independent studies" or am I safe eating it? I eat edamame maybe once or twice a week at most in a quantity of about half a bowl.


If you're male I'd avoid eating it just because of the potential for phytoestrogens to decrease testosterone. The evidence is "inconclusive" so far but I wouldn't risk it especially since testosterone levels are decreasing worldwide every year as our societies become more feminized
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MtlGuitarist97
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States1539 Posts
May 25 2013 14:47 GMT
#954
On May 25 2013 23:09 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 20:51 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
So I've been reading a little bit about soy since I've been eating edamame. I've heard reports say that soy is amazing for you and all these great benefits of it, and then some slightly less reputable sites say that it's horrible for you and causes diseases and cancers and all this other stuff. Should I believe these "independent studies" or am I safe eating it? I eat edamame maybe once or twice a week at most in a quantity of about half a bowl.


If you're male I'd avoid eating it just because of the potential for phytoestrogens to decrease testosterone. The evidence is "inconclusive" so far but I wouldn't risk it especially since testosterone levels are decreasing worldwide every year as our societies become more feminized

That kind of sucks, but thanks anyway Eshlow.
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-25 14:52:10
May 25 2013 14:49 GMT
#955
soy is the devil (nsfw)

http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/soy-is-devil-and-not-in-fun-way.html?zx=8326f15239dba982
http://chaosandpain.blogspot.com/2010/09/soy-is-devil-and-not-in-fun-way-22-12.html
dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
May 25 2013 18:17 GMT
#956
On May 25 2013 23:09 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 25 2013 20:51 MtlGuitarist97 wrote:
So I've been reading a little bit about soy since I've been eating edamame. I've heard reports say that soy is amazing for you and all these great benefits of it, and then some slightly less reputable sites say that it's horrible for you and causes diseases and cancers and all this other stuff. Should I believe these "independent studies" or am I safe eating it? I eat edamame maybe once or twice a week at most in a quantity of about half a bowl.


If you're male I'd avoid eating it just because of the potential for phytoestrogens to decrease testosterone. The evidence is "inconclusive" so far but I wouldn't risk it especially since testosterone levels are decreasing worldwide every year as our societies become more feminized

Are there good quality foods that have the opposite effect and increase testosterone?
Sup.
IRL_Sinister
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Ireland621 Posts
May 26 2013 10:57 GMT
#957
I just read the OP and I have a question regarding food categories because it isn't really mentioned in any of the articles or the OP. It's probably a difficult question to answer so I'll keep it simple and hope for a (relatively) simple response.

In relation to the type of diet I'm looking for I am, as outlined in the first article linked, 2. You are at a “healthy weight” for your height, but want to “tone up” and gain muscle mass while losing fat. I understand that diet and exercise are important here. I've never had a problem with exercising so that's not really a problem but I recently got a new job and am spending up to 10 hours a day sitting and not eating healthy (because I don't have the time).

I'm not fat, I'm not overweight and I never have been. I have a fast metabolism and can eat a lot of sh*t without putting on any weight. I used to be on a sports scholarship in University where I was in the gym 5 days a week. I've always had problems putting on weight.

But that's irrelevant. As explained above I'm happy with my weight but I want to tone up.

What I do know:

1) I need to eat a f*ck tonne of protein
2) I need to eat within 20-60 mins of my workout each day
3) Working out for 45 mins a day is more than enough

What I do not know:

1) What is good to eat BEFORE my workout
2) What is a good, simple item to eat BEFORE my workout
3) What food categories are bad with each other? I've heard that Carbs and Proteins at the same time are horrible together.

My main question:

What should I be eating before my workout. What should I NOT be eating with protein and when I should be eating it?

Thanks.
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 13:57:34
May 26 2013 13:57 GMT
#958
So, i recently passed from 3meals a day to 7meals a day (a mix of light and big ones, mostly chicken/rice/eggs). My trainer wants me to gain 1kg/week. My question is, wouldnt that harm my skin ?
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DrCooper
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 15:13:51
May 26 2013 15:08 GMT
#959
On May 26 2013 19:57 IRL_Sinister wrote:
I just read the OP and I have a question regarding food categories because it isn't really mentioned in any of the articles or the OP. It's probably a difficult question to answer so I'll keep it simple and hope for a (relatively) simple response.

In relation to the type of diet I'm looking for I am, as outlined in the first article linked, 2. You are at a “healthy weight” for your height, but want to “tone up” and gain muscle mass while losing fat. I understand that diet and exercise are important here. I've never had a problem with exercising so that's not really a problem but I recently got a new job and am spending up to 10 hours a day sitting and not eating healthy (because I don't have the time).

I'm not fat, I'm not overweight and I never have been. I have a fast metabolism and can eat a lot of sh*t without putting on any weight. I used to be on a sports scholarship in University where I was in the gym 5 days a week. I've always had problems putting on weight.

But that's irrelevant. As explained above I'm happy with my weight but I want to tone up.

What I do know:

1) I need to eat a f*ck tonne of protein
2) I need to eat within 20-60 mins of my workout each day
3) Working out for 45 mins a day is more than enough

What I do not know:

1) What is good to eat BEFORE my workout
2) What is a good, simple item to eat BEFORE my workout
3) What food categories are bad with each other? I've heard that Carbs and Proteins at the same time are horrible together.

My main question:

What should I be eating before my workout. What should I NOT be eating with protein and when I should be eating it?

Thanks.


Training 45min a day in a gym, i.e. heavy weight-lifting isn't good. Screws with your recovery

1) I would stay away from eating big meals shortly before working out. It's a personal thing though. Thing is if you eat 2-3 hours before working out the food is probably (depends on the fat content of the food though) still in your stomach. Thus not giving you energy. In terms what to eat it really doesn't matter. Some people like John Kiefer recommend no carbs before working out, some people do recommend carbs prior to working out.
I barely eat anything before working out and have great workouts.
3) Carbs and Protein are not bad together. If a combination of macro nutrients poses a problem it would be Fat and Carbs but this tends to be exaggerated. People often refer to the Glycamic Index, however this really has barely any significance.

To keep it simple, just eat and train hard. Make sure you take in enough protein. If you gain weight, perfect! If not just eat more.

On May 26 2013 22:57 Erasme wrote:
So, i recently passed from 3meals a day to 7meals a day (a mix of light and big ones, mostly chicken/rice/eggs). My trainer wants me to gain 1kg/week. My question is, wouldnt that harm my skin ?

(Studies have shown that it doesn't matter whether you eat 3 big meals a day or 10 small ones.) 1kg a week seems a lot to me. So be aware you're putting on quite a bit of fat. Of course, if you get too fat and then lose the weight very fast it is possible that you get an excess of skin
ToT)OjKa(
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Korea (South)2437 Posts
May 26 2013 16:49 GMT
#960
Isn't toning up more a question of losing body fat %? Although you're probably doing that when you're working out so nevermind.
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