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On September 07 2013 08:01 rasteryha wrote:Thanks for the answer, I understand that noone here is a medical pofessional but I figured people might have relevant experience. Show nested quote +Running can be hard on the knees if you're a heel striker. Heels don't absorb running impact very well and transmit that straight up the leg and mess up joints, which could maybe be why you stopped feeling knee pain when you stopped running (obviously I don't know your running form, if you are a forefoot striker, then I don't know). I'm not sure about when I run but I do actually walk on my heels. I'll try and change that. Show nested quote +As far as the swelling, that can come from a lot of things inside the knee. My girlfriend recently had some swelling and pain after a run that she didn't warm up for very well and MRI showed that she'd somehow bruised her meniscus the pain I had when running could be from the meniscus, the area fits. I have an mri booked so i'll know soon if that's it.
Striking with your heels when you walk isn't bad as far as I know, since it's much slower and the impact isn't as hard. If you're always keeping all your weight on your heels then that's kinda weird but probably not bad. Running is where it really matters, because the force is much greater in addition to being more frequent. Check the OP of the running thread, he puts some good cues in there to maintain good form while running 
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On September 07 2013 08:01 rasteryha wrote:Thanks for the answer, I understand that noone here is a medical pofessional but I figured people might have relevant experience. Show nested quote +Running can be hard on the knees if you're a heel striker. Heels don't absorb running impact very well and transmit that straight up the leg and mess up joints, which could maybe be why you stopped feeling knee pain when you stopped running (obviously I don't know your running form, if you are a forefoot striker, then I don't know). I'm not sure about when I run but I do actually walk on my heels. I'll try and change that. Show nested quote +As far as the swelling, that can come from a lot of things inside the knee. My girlfriend recently had some swelling and pain after a run that she didn't warm up for very well and MRI showed that she'd somehow bruised her meniscus the pain I had when running could be from the meniscus, the area fits. I have an mri booked so i'll know soon if that's it.
if you are squatting with bad or imperfect form due to insufficient mobility/flexibility then squatting can fuck your knees (and your back) pretty quickly.
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I was doing sl5x5 so squatting 3x a week and deadlifting and squatting the same day and had no knee or back pain when doing so so I think my form was ok.
I have no video to check though so it's still possible and I did think the injury might have come from bad lift and running on it straight after. Hopefully if that's the case, the MRI should show it.
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On September 07 2013 08:19 GuiltyJerk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2013 08:01 rasteryha wrote:Thanks for the answer, I understand that noone here is a medical pofessional but I figured people might have relevant experience. Running can be hard on the knees if you're a heel striker. Heels don't absorb running impact very well and transmit that straight up the leg and mess up joints, which could maybe be why you stopped feeling knee pain when you stopped running (obviously I don't know your running form, if you are a forefoot striker, then I don't know). I'm not sure about when I run but I do actually walk on my heels. I'll try and change that. As far as the swelling, that can come from a lot of things inside the knee. My girlfriend recently had some swelling and pain after a run that she didn't warm up for very well and MRI showed that she'd somehow bruised her meniscus the pain I had when running could be from the meniscus, the area fits. I have an mri booked so i'll know soon if that's it. Striking with your heels when you walk isn't bad as far as I know, since it's much slower and the impact isn't as hard. If you're always keeping all your weight on your heels then that's kinda weird but probably not bad. Running is where it really matters, because the force is much greater in addition to being more frequent. Check the OP of the running thread, he puts some good cues in there to maintain good form while running
Correct, normal walking has a heel strike.
Once you get to the point of jogging and beyond to running and sprinting your gait changes and you want more of a forefoot/midfoot strike (NOT running on your toes though).
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so, i have read that after gym you should eat some carbs. if my gym session is 3pm and i eat my carbs 4-430pm, should i eat more carbs before sleep? or just after gym and in the night some vegetables and meat? i
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Doesn't really matter, just eat some food. If you want to, after your workout have a protein shake and some fruit or gatorade or other fast carb and eat normally.
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I'm in a bit of dilemma right now. When I first got my ass back into the gym I wanted to be able to lift AND run distance. The lifts have been great so far, but my running has been stunted.
For the past week I've been stretching and massaging my legs to rub out the DOMS. I haven't been able to continue my running routine in a week and it really really sucks. Now my legs nearly ready, squats are due tomorrow, but what about running? I can definitely do 3 miles or even more right now but I'm afraid it'll hinder me for squats. Then when I do squats my running is going to be miserable that day or the day after, it'd probably be miserable to even just walk the 5k. Outside of squats, one session deadlifts had affected my running, sore lower back and hamstrings were just as bad.
I may be just overreacting due to the DOMS ruining my entire week. I remember in the past I was able to squat every other day without a problem, but sadly also without progress lol. But I just want to learn more and see what you guys have done if you guys are into both running and lifting.
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On September 08 2013 08:27 Topin wrote:
so, i have read that after gym you should eat some carbs. if my gym session is 3pm and i eat my carbs 4-430pm, should i eat more carbs before sleep? or just after gym and in the night some vegetables and meat? i
Loading most of your carbs around your workouts is a very good idea, don't worry about the "no carbs before bedtime" as it is a hoax.
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priorities. you can't have really good progress in both. you can put all of your effort into one and just maintain the other, or put a bit of effort in both and settle for slower progress (or any other combination). i gave up table tennis about 9 months ago to focus on strength training, but i think i'll go back to seriously playing once i achieve my goals of 2xbw deadlift and 1.75xbw squat.
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Snuggles I think you just gotta go for both if that's what you want. Make sure you're recovering as best you can. If you can't squat and then run 3 miles your body isn't ready for that, but you can train to get to that point It's definitely possible, I did it, but your body may not be at that point yet. Don't let that discourage you.
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Yeah man, you can do both if that's your goal Snuggles. Sure, it's not ideal, but it's not unreasonable or outside of what a human can do. Lots of military people run their balls off all the time and still find time to lift. I'd suggest that you stick with the lifting, and slowly work your way back up to where you want to be in running volume.
If you are going to lift heavy and run distance though, you have to be extra diligent about recovery. Make sure you get lots of regular, uninterrupted sleep, eat a ton (food is magic, better than steroids), and make sure you pay attention to mobility work. You might have a few days here and there where squats suck because you are still recovering from running or vice versa, but after just a few weeks your body will adapt.
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Without expecting a doctor's advice...
How do you deal with a pulled/strained/whatevered hip flexor? I've had this problem for 2 weeks now. I rest it for a couple of days and it feels perfectly fine, but if I exercise it (such as running) it starts to bother me. Everything I do, including walking up the stairs to get a drink of water seems to slow its healing. Should I just lie in my bed immobile for a week straight and hire someone off the street to change my bedpan for me?
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For strains normally it's rest with light movement around the affected area so long as it doesn't cause pain to do so. I'd google mobilitywod kelly starrett hip flexor stuff for some mobility stuff to work on when you think it's rested enough. You need to remember there's something bringing this condition about which is likely your form when running or something. For the best answer fill out the form in the Injuries thread and post it there. Eshlow keeps pretty good visibility on that one.
http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/01/on-muscle-strains/
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Thanks for all the advice guys. I love you all. It's been a tough discouraging week, sometimes you just need a little push to get through it.
*wipes tears out of eyes* I'm gonna do it. Today when I get that bar on to my traps, I'm to going to squat it for all three sets. Then I'll tear up and point towards the sky. I doing it for you bros today, doing it for you.
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On September 09 2013 23:09 mordek wrote:For strains normally it's rest with light movement around the affected area so long as it doesn't cause pain to do so. I'd google mobilitywod kelly starrett hip flexor stuff for some mobility stuff to work on when you think it's rested enough. You need to remember there's something bringing this condition about which is likely your form when running or something. For the best answer fill out the form in the Injuries thread and post it there. Eshlow keeps pretty good visibility on that one. http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/01/on-muscle-strains/
Pretty much everyone has tight hips/hip flexors. Definitely start doing some mobility stuff. I've been doing the super couch stretch pretty much everyday for the past couple weeks and it's doing wonders for me.
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Couch stretch #1. Easy to do while watching tv if that's your thing. You'll know you need it as soon as you try it 
*If you have a strain there may want to hold off at first of course.
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so this isn't really a fitness question, it's more of a community question. i work in an office of a bunch of doughy, unhealthy folks, and was wondering what the best way to try and get people thinking about health would be. i don't want to come off presumptuous or anything, but i've already talked to 2-3 people about it and have given them personal advice, but would like to offer it to the entire office. any thoughts?
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On September 10 2013 01:21 Mortal wrote:
so this isn't really a fitness question, it's more of a community question. i work in an office of a bunch of doughy, unhealthy folks, and was wondering what the best way to try and get people thinking about health would be. i don't want to come off presumptuous or anything, but i've already talked to 2-3 people about it and have given them personal advice, but would like to offer it to the entire office. any thoughts?
My take on this is that just because you've gained a lot of joy and health through fitness, don't try to make a grand speech about it to people who aren't interested, especially a lot of them. Show a good example.
For example, if you diligently eat healthy, stay positive, stay fit, people will notice and they will ask you on their own. At that point you can talk from your own perspective. Don't impose anything on them like 'you should do this'. Talk about your own experiences and how it has helped you.
My own experience is that I stayed mostly quiet about working out (though I didnt try to hide it). I felt that talking a lot about how you work out comes off as a little bit narcissistic. However if someone talked about fitness, health, training advice I'd share my thoughts. And what do you know, people have told me that they respect the fact that I don't gloat with working out even though they've noticed changes in me and the way I present myself, and months later I got a workout partner from a friend of mine who had never been to a gym before.
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yeah i'm really not looking to be preachy, i just want to make information available to them in a personal way without coming across as condescending or what have you.
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If you build it, they will come. You'll get their attention when you've got capped delts bigger than your head.
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