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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
December 05 2011 16:25 GMT
#14061
On December 06 2011 00:52 zatic wrote:
I know they are supposed to be easier, but it can't be normal that I can do 12-8-7 chinups but barely 2 pullups? It feels like I have zero strenth once I switch to palms facing away and a wider grip (pullups are supposed to be wider than chinups right?)

Also any good tips how to prevent legs / hips to drive forward during either?


I always use the same grip width (sic?) for chin ups and pull ups. obviously, pull ups become harder the wider your grip is. maybe try a more narrow grip!

and I believe core strength is mostly responsible for preventing leg/hip "drive". squeeze those abs! it might also help to have some sort of block underneath the bar so you can "reset" your position after every rep.

@sjarl: is it a normal powerlifting competition or a strongman one? hope you do well!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 05 2011 18:31 GMT
#14062
Just a regular powerlifting meet, only thing I believe I have left to do to reach my goals for 2011.

Thanks for the suuport
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
December 05 2011 18:36 GMT
#14063
I just had a nightmare that I missed my workout tonight. *shudders*
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
December 05 2011 21:01 GMT
#14064


holy shit
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 05 2011 21:04 GMT
#14065
I raise you a whole Benni:



Not sumo and no straps.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
December 05 2011 21:22 GMT
#14066
unbelievable... although I do like how the other guy rips oben his knees :D
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
December 05 2011 21:29 GMT
#14067
On December 06 2011 00:52 zatic wrote:
I know they are supposed to be easier, but it can't be normal that I can do 12-8-7 chinups but barely 2 pullups? It feels like I have zero strenth once I switch to palms facing away and a wider grip (pullups are supposed to be wider than chinups right?)

Also any good tips how to prevent legs / hips to drive forward during either?


AFAIK, the only thing that defines a Pull-Up or a Chin-Up is how you grip with your hands. You don't have to grip extra-wide to make it a pull-up. If a real wide grip doesn't suit you, then just don't do it, you also wouldn't deadlift/squat/bench in an uncomfortable position just for the heck of it (maybe if you want to specifically train only your lats that is another story).
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
December 05 2011 21:54 GMT
#14068
wide grip chinups are cool i wish i could do one :D
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 05 2011 21:58 GMT
#14069
On December 06 2011 06:29 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 00:52 zatic wrote:
I know they are supposed to be easier, but it can't be normal that I can do 12-8-7 chinups but barely 2 pullups? It feels like I have zero strenth once I switch to palms facing away and a wider grip (pullups are supposed to be wider than chinups right?)

Also any good tips how to prevent legs / hips to drive forward during either?


AFAIK, the only thing that defines a Pull-Up or a Chin-Up is how you grip with your hands. You don't have to grip extra-wide to make it a pull-up. If a real wide grip doesn't suit you, then just don't do it, you also wouldn't deadlift/squat/bench in an uncomfortable position just for the heck of it (maybe if you want to specifically train only your lats that is another story).


I dislike that logic.

It's equivalent of saying "Do dead-lift with bad technique because you can lift more weight."

Wide arm pull-ups do feel more natural, and they do train your lats more (overall I feel they do more for you than close-grip pull ups). If you can't do pull-ups, just use an assist. I have this problem as well, but if you keep working at it, you'll be able to do a good number of pull-ups in no time.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 22:25:00
December 05 2011 22:23 GMT
#14070
why is using a narrow grip for pull ups the equivalent of doing deadlifts with bad technique? that doesnt make sense.
wide grip = more lats, less arms
narrow grip = more arms, less lats

simple as that. and just because you like wide grip pull ups more doesnt mean they are better. they cant even be "better" because they dont have the same purpose.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4727 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-05 23:18:59
December 05 2011 22:26 GMT
#14071
On December 06 2011 06:58 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 06:29 Malinor wrote:
On December 06 2011 00:52 zatic wrote:
I know they are supposed to be easier, but it can't be normal that I can do 12-8-7 chinups but barely 2 pullups? It feels like I have zero strenth once I switch to palms facing away and a wider grip (pullups are supposed to be wider than chinups right?)

Also any good tips how to prevent legs / hips to drive forward during either?


AFAIK, the only thing that defines a Pull-Up or a Chin-Up is how you grip with your hands. You don't have to grip extra-wide to make it a pull-up. If a real wide grip doesn't suit you, then just don't do it, you also wouldn't deadlift/squat/bench in an uncomfortable position just for the heck of it (maybe if you want to specifically train only your lats that is another story).


I dislike that logic.

It's equivalent of saying "Do dead-lift with bad technique because you can lift more weight."

Wide arm pull-ups do feel more natural, and they do train your lats more (overall I feel they do more for you than close-grip pull ups). If you can't do pull-ups, just use an assist. I have this problem as well, but if you keep working at it, you'll be able to do a good number of pull-ups in no time.


I thin it is a pretty big stretch to say that I just told him that bad technic is ok. Also, I am sure comfortable grip width is a highly individual matter.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Zingpow
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia3 Posts
December 05 2011 23:49 GMT
#14072
Yeah, you can do pull ups with all kinds of hand positioning depending on what you're aiming to achieve. If you're looking at doing them purely for functionality ie. to be able to pull yourself up from a hanging position in a real world situation I'd recommend close to or a little wider than shoulder width, whatever is most comfortable. If you are looking at targeting specific things do some research.

A great way to improve at doing pull ups (particularly if you struggle to do 1 or 2) is to do negatives ie. start at the top and lower yourself as slowly as possible. Bands are also an option.
Obsessed is just a word the lazy use to describe the dedicated
Delarchon
Profile Joined April 2010
Finland132 Posts
December 06 2011 00:02 GMT
#14073
Anyone have experience with working out when slightly ill?
And if it is an absolute NO, when can i continue?

I am doing gym 3 times per week and cardio 2 times per week and having runny nose and cough but no fever.
What kind of sorcery is this?
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
December 06 2011 00:12 GMT
#14074
On December 06 2011 07:26 Malinor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 06:58 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On December 06 2011 06:29 Malinor wrote:
On December 06 2011 00:52 zatic wrote:
I know they are supposed to be easier, but it can't be normal that I can do 12-8-7 chinups but barely 2 pullups? It feels like I have zero strenth once I switch to palms facing away and a wider grip (pullups are supposed to be wider than chinups right?)

Also any good tips how to prevent legs / hips to drive forward during either?


AFAIK, the only thing that defines a Pull-Up or a Chin-Up is how you grip with your hands. You don't have to grip extra-wide to make it a pull-up. If a real wide grip doesn't suit you, then just don't do it, you also wouldn't deadlift/squat/bench in an uncomfortable position just for the heck of it (maybe if you want to specifically train only your lats that is another story).


I dislike that logic.

It's equivalent of saying "Do dead-lift with bad technique because you can lift more weight."

Wide arm pull-ups do feel more natural, and they do train your lats more (overall I feel they do more for you than close-grip pull ups). If you can't do pull-ups, just use an assist. I have this problem as well, but if you keep working at it, you'll be able to do a good number of pull-ups in no time.


I thin it is a pretty big stretch to say that I just told him that bad technic is ok. Also, I am sure comfortable grip width is a highly individual matter.


I suppose you're right. It just felt you were trying to make him change his technique because he couldn't do them very well. If it was an issue on the pull ups feeling weird, I'd totally agree with you and switching up the grip. But in his case I do feel it's more likely some muscles being underdeveloped.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
KOVU
Profile Joined September 2010
Denmark708 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 00:21:22
December 06 2011 00:20 GMT
#14075
Might also consider trying out neutral grip as well. First time I did neutral grip I could really feel my lats working hard, as opposed to my chin-ups.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
December 06 2011 00:44 GMT
#14076
I've relapsed into small portions b/c of college apps. Damnit, once january 1 is here it's time to beast things up.
Crawler
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Estonia248 Posts
December 06 2011 02:40 GMT
#14077
On December 06 2011 09:02 Delarchon wrote:
Anyone have experience with working out when slightly ill?
And if it is an absolute NO, when can i continue?

I am doing gym 3 times per week and cardio 2 times per week and having runny nose and cough but no fever.


I was in exactly the same condition as you for almost a week but still went there and did my stuff. Even had a slight headache but managed to do everything. Just try to get enough sleep and go there if you certainly don't have fever in which case I would skip it.
FreezingAssassin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
December 06 2011 05:06 GMT
#14078
Does anyone here know of any really really good super sets for the back? Mainly higher back area around shoulders? I've been going to gym for past 5-6~ months all my muscles get sore after workouts except the back... and it just frustrates me D:
"I love when stupid stuff happens, it makes me look smart" - IdrA
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
December 06 2011 05:21 GMT
#14079
So you want to workout to get sore?
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
FreezingAssassin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
December 06 2011 05:24 GMT
#14080
Well yes, it at least lets me know that I strained the day before. Is there something wrong with working and hoping you feel sore the next day? I'm confused O_O
"I love when stupid stuff happens, it makes me look smart" - IdrA
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