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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
December 06 2011 06:00 GMT
#14081
On December 06 2011 14:24 FreezingAssassin wrote:
Well yes, it at least lets me know that I strained the day before. Is there something wrong with working and hoping you feel sore the next day? I'm confused O_O


Delayed onset muscle soreness does not mean you are making progress, nor does lack of DOMS indicate that you are not making progress.

If I wanted DOMS, I would just do 10x10 for all my lifts at light weights. Would it make me hurt? Yes. Would it lead to gains? Probably no.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 06 2011 13:11 GMT
#14082
10x10 is actually a semi-legit way to do squats, but that is besides the point.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
December 06 2011 13:44 GMT
#14083
Are you talking about German Volume Training?
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 06 2011 13:45 GMT
#14084
Yep, I haven't tried it though. Sounds like fun though.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
December 06 2011 13:47 GMT
#14085
I'm not sure going 10x10 on squats will give you doms when you have been squatting regularly before. I dont know about you, but I only get doms when I do exercises that I havent done for weeks/months/ever.

not that its relevant, just thought i'd add that to the discussion :p
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
December 06 2011 13:52 GMT
#14086
On December 06 2011 22:45 sJarl wrote:
Yep, I haven't tried it though. Sounds like fun though.


I thought that was kind of outdated and determined to be ineffective. I know that you said semi-legit, but I think only a few people use GVT and actually make gains from it.
Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
December 06 2011 14:07 GMT
#14087
I'm still getting sore after every workout and I've missed maybe 3-5 sessions since I started lifting, Guess I'm weird XD.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
December 06 2011 14:58 GMT
#14088
On December 06 2011 22:52 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 06 2011 22:45 sJarl wrote:
Yep, I haven't tried it though. Sounds like fun though.


I thought that was kind of outdated and determined to be ineffective. I know that you said semi-legit, but I think only a few people use GVT and actually make gains from it.


Yeah, I believe there are more effective ways to reach your goals.

I still get sore occationally though...
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
FreezingAssassin
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States455 Posts
December 06 2011 15:50 GMT
#14089
Oh wow, I thought being sore after workouts did mean progress... I had it all wrong I guess.
"I love when stupid stuff happens, it makes me look smart" - IdrA
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
December 06 2011 16:23 GMT
#14090
measure progress by the weight on the bar (or by looking into the mirror)
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 17:00:25
December 06 2011 16:52 GMT
#14091
FS: 154 x3x4
OHP: 104x5x3
PU: BW+12kg x5x3

Finally getting comfortable on FS. The weight is still limited more by the rack than what my legs can handle.
OHP keep progressing ez, will try 114x5x3 on friday. I'd really love to keep OHP till I can press my bodyweight once :D
PU felt good, gonna ditch them to start deadlifting again next week though.
Also, even though this might be a bit of a stretch, I was checking weight/height ratio for record holders on each classes, and I should move up (stay) in the 83kg class (current weight 76kg). Of the few "light" guys I could find, Oleksnder kutcher was 5 4" at 74kg (LOL) and pyrros dimas was 5 7" at 85kg. I'm 5 7". Man, those small leverages.
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
December 06 2011 18:29 GMT
#14092
Isn't 104 more than your bodyweight already?
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20021 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-12-06 19:41:31
December 06 2011 19:40 GMT
#14093
Pounds, not kg i think. Otherwise those are pretty impressive lifts.

Competition in 4 days! Getting a singlet tomorrow so i stop looking like a scrub. Thinking i'm gonna open around 115-120 for snatch and 140 for CJ. Hoping to set some PRs!!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
December 06 2011 20:08 GMT
#14094
On December 07 2011 04:40 decafchicken wrote:
Pounds, not kg i think. Otherwise those are pretty impressive lifts.

Competition in 4 days! Getting a singlet tomorrow so i stop looking like a scrub. Thinking i'm gonna open around 115-120 for snatch and 140 for CJ. Hoping to set some PRs!!


Ya, pounds obviously :p.

Good luck on ur competition, hopefully some pointers from mine will help u.

1.- Measure ur grip width from the center on each lift at the gym u train, cause the knurls at the competition might be different. I felt really weird squatting till I noticed that, which I did on my 3rd lift lol.
2.- Pay attention to the rules so you don't miss lifts because of silly mistakes. I missed my first squat because I didn't wait for the "rack" command after a succesful squat, and missed my first bench because I moved my feet. Avoid those.
3.- Bring food and water, and expect competition to start later than scheduled.

Now that I notice its about oly lifting, I think 1-2 will most likely not apply.

Dunno what else, gl and break those PR's.
Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
December 06 2011 21:00 GMT
#14095
wait.... if that OHP is in lbs isnt that kinda low? or rather maybe i should be asking how fast should I be increasing my OHP weight as a novice? ive been doing 5lb(total) per workout and ive had trouble keeping it up but i just figured it was a form issue or I was being a pussy.
Hurricane
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3939 Posts
December 06 2011 21:15 GMT
#14096
I'd say 5lbs is ok. 2.5 if you have access to 1.25 plates is a good idea as well. I stalled on press a stupid amount near the end of SS and was just too stubborn to move down to 1.25 plates.
RIP CHARLIEMURPHY 11/25/10 NEVER FORGET | Hurricane#1183 @ B.net
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
December 06 2011 22:20 GMT
#14097
On December 07 2011 06:00 Orpheos wrote:
wait.... if that OHP is in lbs isnt that kinda low? or rather maybe i should be asking how fast should I be increasing my OHP weight as a novice? ive been doing 5lb(total) per workout and ive had trouble keeping it up but i just figured it was a form issue or I was being a pussy.


Yeah, 5lb is pretty tough to keep up from personal experience.
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Keyboard Warrior
Profile Joined December 2011
United States1178 Posts
December 07 2011 02:22 GMT
#14098
I want to be muscular by Dec 2012. Lose 10 pound fat, gain 20 pound muslce. Yes I can
Not your regular Keyboard Warrior ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
December 07 2011 03:14 GMT
#14099
Got back up to 2x body weight squats tonight. I really need a spotter cause the fear of death is messing with my form and breathing.
I <3 서지훈
Steeped
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada87 Posts
December 07 2011 04:12 GMT
#14100
Man its been a long long time since i posted in this thread. I pretty much just made a blog post in the progress pic thread haha. I owe a lot to this thread ever since i was introduced to it and the gym my lifes been going really good. Just wanna say thanks and post a small update on progress.

OHP 125lbs today, this is a new PR and i'll be able to do more next week. Felt good putting decent sized plates on the bar.
BP 175lbs also a new PR, i don't get to the gym at the same time as my friend anymore and im worried about going heavy bench without a spotter haha. All the lower body lifts are still working back up to previous maxes... stupid groin injury.
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