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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 13:53:08
October 25 2011 13:52 GMT
#13081
PAC is an amazing place to lift; most of the people are very serious and know what they are doing.

I'd seen 4-plate DLs and 2-plate cleans pretty frequently when I was going there.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 25 2011 14:01 GMT
#13082
On October 25 2011 09:27 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 09:22 Mementoss wrote:
Thanks for the comments guys, but I seem to hear different advice from different people haha. When I started I was squatting too much, maybe now bend the knees a little more, and just try to keep a flatter back, squeeze the glutes at the top? How to keep a flatter back though, I was trying to keep my chest up and out to do this.


1. Your feet are shoulder width apart and slightly toed out.
2. Head up, looking slightly above parallel.
3. Don’t look down! Ground is in peripheral vision only!
4. Accentuate the normal arch of the lumbar curve while pulling the excess arch out of the abs.
5. Keep midsection very tight.
6. Send your butt and your back down.
7. Knees track over the line of the foot.
8. Don’t let knees roll over inside of foot.
9. Keep your weight on your heels as much as possible.
10. STAY OFF THE BALLS OF THE FEET!
11. Delay forward travel of the knees as much as possible.
12. Lift your arms up and out as you descend.
13. Elongated torso.
14. Send hands as far away from butt as possible.
15. In profile, the ear does not move forward during the squat, only straight down.
16. Don’t just sink into the squat, pull yourself down with your hip flexors.
17. Don’t let the lumbar curve surrender as you settle into the bottom.
18. Stop when the fold of the hip is below the crease of the knee. Break parallel with your thighs.
19. Squeeeeeeeze glutes and hammies, rise without any leaning forward or shifting of balance.
20. Return on the exact same path as you descended.
21. Use every bit of musculature you can, no part of the body is left uninvolved.
22. On rising, without moving the feet, exert pressure to the outside of your feet as though you were trying to separate the ground beneath you.
23. At the top of the stroke, stand as tall as possible.


Here's a nice image to with it

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eXSux1480QI/TRj5DBCVGSI/AAAAAAAAAww/Ns8NMWV4gPA/s1600/BABY SQUAT.jpg
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Mementoss
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada2595 Posts
October 25 2011 14:09 GMT
#13083
On October 25 2011 23:01 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 09:27 eshlow wrote:
On October 25 2011 09:22 Mementoss wrote:
Thanks for the comments guys, but I seem to hear different advice from different people haha. When I started I was squatting too much, maybe now bend the knees a little more, and just try to keep a flatter back, squeeze the glutes at the top? How to keep a flatter back though, I was trying to keep my chest up and out to do this.


1. Your feet are shoulder width apart and slightly toed out.
2. Head up, looking slightly above parallel.
3. Don’t look down! Ground is in peripheral vision only!
4. Accentuate the normal arch of the lumbar curve while pulling the excess arch out of the abs.
5. Keep midsection very tight.
6. Send your butt and your back down.
7. Knees track over the line of the foot.
8. Don’t let knees roll over inside of foot.
9. Keep your weight on your heels as much as possible.
10. STAY OFF THE BALLS OF THE FEET!
11. Delay forward travel of the knees as much as possible.
12. Lift your arms up and out as you descend.
13. Elongated torso.
14. Send hands as far away from butt as possible.
15. In profile, the ear does not move forward during the squat, only straight down.
16. Don’t just sink into the squat, pull yourself down with your hip flexors.
17. Don’t let the lumbar curve surrender as you settle into the bottom.
18. Stop when the fold of the hip is below the crease of the knee. Break parallel with your thighs.
19. Squeeeeeeeze glutes and hammies, rise without any leaning forward or shifting of balance.
20. Return on the exact same path as you descended.
21. Use every bit of musculature you can, no part of the body is left uninvolved.
22. On rising, without moving the feet, exert pressure to the outside of your feet as though you were trying to separate the ground beneath you.
23. At the top of the stroke, stand as tall as possible.


Here's a nice image to with it

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eXSux1480QI/TRj5DBCVGSI/AAAAAAAAAww/Ns8NMWV4gPA/s1600/BABY SQUAT.jpg


I lol'd Haha thanks for the tips, more general then specific to my problem. But ill keep it as a note in my little tracker book. And see if I feel like im doing all these things during my lift. And if not how can I change/fix it.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 25 2011 15:04 GMT
#13084
On October 25 2011 23:01 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2011 09:27 eshlow wrote:
On October 25 2011 09:22 Mementoss wrote:
Thanks for the comments guys, but I seem to hear different advice from different people haha. When I started I was squatting too much, maybe now bend the knees a little more, and just try to keep a flatter back, squeeze the glutes at the top? How to keep a flatter back though, I was trying to keep my chest up and out to do this.


1. Your feet are shoulder width apart and slightly toed out.
2. Head up, looking slightly above parallel.
3. Don’t look down! Ground is in peripheral vision only!
4. Accentuate the normal arch of the lumbar curve while pulling the excess arch out of the abs.
5. Keep midsection very tight.
6. Send your butt and your back down.
7. Knees track over the line of the foot.
8. Don’t let knees roll over inside of foot.
9. Keep your weight on your heels as much as possible.
10. STAY OFF THE BALLS OF THE FEET!
11. Delay forward travel of the knees as much as possible.
12. Lift your arms up and out as you descend.
13. Elongated torso.
14. Send hands as far away from butt as possible.
15. In profile, the ear does not move forward during the squat, only straight down.
16. Don’t just sink into the squat, pull yourself down with your hip flexors.
17. Don’t let the lumbar curve surrender as you settle into the bottom.
18. Stop when the fold of the hip is below the crease of the knee. Break parallel with your thighs.
19. Squeeeeeeeze glutes and hammies, rise without any leaning forward or shifting of balance.
20. Return on the exact same path as you descended.
21. Use every bit of musculature you can, no part of the body is left uninvolved.
22. On rising, without moving the feet, exert pressure to the outside of your feet as though you were trying to separate the ground beneath you.
23. At the top of the stroke, stand as tall as possible.


Here's a nice image to with it

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_eXSux1480QI/TRj5DBCVGSI/AAAAAAAAAww/Ns8NMWV4gPA/s1600/BABY SQUAT.jpg


Hahahahaaa, that should be posted in every gym "proper squat form".
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InfC.AnatoLiy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 18:23:57
October 25 2011 18:22 GMT
#13085
Well, since I started my health initiative 71 days ago, every morning I would always indulge in a coffee with 2 teaspoons of sugar and 0% fat milk and starting tomorrow - CUT OFF!

Going to see if I have withdrawal symptoms from it or not but I'm going to replace it with just a cup of 0% fat milk and see how that goes.

Already lost 24 pounds over this course, shooting for another 20 (would put me at 180) and judge how much more I need to go.

I already cut off all juices since Day 19 which I recorded. Only drink coffee, water and no fat milk.
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Orpheos
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1663 Posts
October 25 2011 18:52 GMT
#13086
On October 26 2011 03:22 InfC.AnatoLiy wrote:
Well, since I started my health initiative 71 days ago, every morning I would always indulge in a coffee with 2 teaspoons of sugar and 0% fat milk and starting tomorrow - CUT OFF!

Going to see if I have withdrawal symptoms from it or not but I'm going to replace it with just a cup of 0% fat milk and see how that goes.

Already lost 24 pounds over this course, shooting for another 20 (would put me at 180) and judge how much more I need to go.

I already cut off all juices since Day 19 which I recorded. Only drink coffee, water and no fat milk.


hi5 man. I actually just hit 200 too. i pretty much only drink water and booze(social) now. then again it wasnt that hard for me becasue I quit soda 4 yrs ago as a college thing. and I never really drank coffee unless I really needed to wake up. giving up juice was the hardest thing for me. <3 apple juice.
XuoriG
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
Canada165 Posts
October 25 2011 19:18 GMT
#13087
On October 26 2011 03:22 InfC.AnatoLiy wrote:
Well, since I started my health initiative 71 days ago, every morning I would always indulge in a coffee with 2 teaspoons of sugar and 0% fat milk and starting tomorrow - CUT OFF!

Going to see if I have withdrawal symptoms from it or not but I'm going to replace it with just a cup of 0% fat milk and see how that goes.

Already lost 24 pounds over this course, shooting for another 20 (would put me at 180) and judge how much more I need to go.

I already cut off all juices since Day 19 which I recorded. Only drink coffee, water and no fat milk.


You should probably drink whole milk instead of 0%, I think it doesn't affect weight lose that much?
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
October 25 2011 20:50 GMT
#13088
On October 26 2011 04:18 XuoriG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 03:22 InfC.AnatoLiy wrote:
Well, since I started my health initiative 71 days ago, every morning I would always indulge in a coffee with 2 teaspoons of sugar and 0% fat milk and starting tomorrow - CUT OFF!

Going to see if I have withdrawal symptoms from it or not but I'm going to replace it with just a cup of 0% fat milk and see how that goes.

Already lost 24 pounds over this course, shooting for another 20 (would put me at 180) and judge how much more I need to go.

I already cut off all juices since Day 19 which I recorded. Only drink coffee, water and no fat milk.


You should probably drink whole milk instead of 0%, I think it doesn't affect weight lose that much?


It's actually a pretty significant difference; one cup of skimmed milk has 86 calories, and one cup of whole milk has 150 calories. If you're drinking only the one cup during the day, sure the fat is a good thing - but if you're drinking a significant amount (I drink about a gallon every 2 or 3 days of whole milk) It's a significant caloric increase/decrease to go from one to the other.
Nazarene
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Denmark996 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 21:01:32
October 25 2011 21:01 GMT
#13089
Tips on lifting Atlas stones sJarl? Going to a competition mixing CF and strongman stuff on the 5th of November and I know the gym just made some :-D
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
October 25 2011 21:19 GMT
#13090
Study about rest intervals from Martin Berkhan's twitter: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21993029

Basically, rest at least 3min between sets.
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InfC.AnatoLiy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States154 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 21:36:14
October 25 2011 21:35 GMT
#13091
On October 26 2011 05:50 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 04:18 XuoriG wrote:
On October 26 2011 03:22 InfC.AnatoLiy wrote:
Well, since I started my health initiative 71 days ago, every morning I would always indulge in a coffee with 2 teaspoons of sugar and 0% fat milk and starting tomorrow - CUT OFF!

Going to see if I have withdrawal symptoms from it or not but I'm going to replace it with just a cup of 0% fat milk and see how that goes.

Already lost 24 pounds over this course, shooting for another 20 (would put me at 180) and judge how much more I need to go.

I already cut off all juices since Day 19 which I recorded. Only drink coffee, water and no fat milk.


You should probably drink whole milk instead of 0%, I think it doesn't affect weight lose that much?


It's actually a pretty significant difference; one cup of skimmed milk has 86 calories, and one cup of whole milk has 150 calories. If you're drinking only the one cup during the day, sure the fat is a good thing - but if you're drinking a significant amount (I drink about a gallon every 2 or 3 days of whole milk) It's a significant caloric increase/decrease to go from one to the other.


Pretty much this. It doesn't seem like a big difference for 1 cup but when you drink a lot like phyre112 and I do then it matters. A half-gallon of 0% milk usually lasts me 2 days.

I don't even eat cereal either so it's just me purely drinking it as an in-between meal thing or for at night before going to bed.


Just ate about ~560g of fried (with pam spray, no oil) chicken breasts un-breaded. Roughly 130g of protein and ~600 calories. 1 tomato, 1 cucumber, 1 red pepper, water.
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 26 2011 00:31 GMT
#13092
On October 26 2011 06:01 Nazarene wrote:
Tips on lifting Atlas stones sJarl? Going to a competition mixing CF and strongman stuff on the 5th of November and I know the gym just made some :-D


Awesome!

As for tips..

1. get your fingers deep under the stone
2. get your feet on the side of your arms
3. round your back and lift away, sqeezing the bar with your fingers and forearms HUG IT LIKE A BEAR
4. move one of your leg in to create a shelf for the stone to rest in or just lift it up and over

You will always want to use chalk and prefereably tacky (the sticky stuff handball players use). To get rid of the tacky after sessions it's good to use WD40 or some cheap vegetable oil.

Get ready for some serious pain.
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
InfC.AnatoLiy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States154 Posts
October 26 2011 02:15 GMT
#13093
Walking home after school today and picked up a muscle milk. Read labeling a bit and thought to myself... + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
October 26 2011 04:34 GMT
#13094
Alright, for some reason I simply can't have dairy without getting bad gas, stomach aches, and nausea. Even if I take lactase before drinking milk, I'll get bloated and start farting like a madman.

Can't do it anymore. More eating I guess ;_;.

Anyway, today's weight: 99.6kg! Almost 100!

sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
October 26 2011 08:03 GMT
#13095
wtffffff bro? You haven't been slacking on the food, thats for sure!
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Ingenol
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1328 Posts
October 26 2011 13:12 GMT
#13096
On October 26 2011 13:34 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Alright, for some reason I simply can't have dairy without getting bad gas, stomach aches, and nausea. Even if I take lactase before drinking milk, I'll get bloated and start farting like a madman.

Can't do it anymore. More eating I guess ;_;.

Anyway, today's weight: 99.6kg! Almost 100!


If you are due for a physical any time soon get your iron levels checked. In addition to just generally being bad for you, high iron can deplete Vitamin E and stress the liver, skewing hormonal balance (lower progesterone/higher estrogen) which in turn lessens the body's ability to produce lactase.

If you used to be able to tolerate milk well but can't any more that's probably a bad sign.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
October 26 2011 13:34 GMT
#13097
InfC.AnatoLiy,

I'd cut out the milk in general if you're trying to lose weight.
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RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
October 26 2011 14:22 GMT
#13098
On October 26 2011 22:12 Ingenol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 13:34 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:
Alright, for some reason I simply can't have dairy without getting bad gas, stomach aches, and nausea. Even if I take lactase before drinking milk, I'll get bloated and start farting like a madman.

Can't do it anymore. More eating I guess ;_;.

Anyway, today's weight: 99.6kg! Almost 100!


If you are due for a physical any time soon get your iron levels checked. In addition to just generally being bad for you, high iron can deplete Vitamin E and stress the liver, skewing hormonal balance (lower progesterone/higher estrogen) which in turn lessens the body's ability to produce lactase.

If you used to be able to tolerate milk well but can't any more that's probably a bad sign.


Interesting. Unfortunately a blood test here costs 10,000 yen that I do not have right now, but I'll keep that in mind.

SJarl: I just don't know how much fat I've put on . I seem to be getting a liiiiittle chubbier, but I'm still gonna go for 105kg before thinking about cutting. I think after this program if I'm still sane I may even go on to Smolov for more bulking!
InfC.AnatoLiy
Profile Joined March 2010
United States154 Posts
October 26 2011 14:27 GMT
#13099
On October 26 2011 22:34 eshlow wrote:
InfC.AnatoLiy,

I'd cut out the milk in general if you're trying to lose weight.


And stick with just water? Despite the fact I wish to lose weight, sacrificing the nutrients from milk is not ideal for me.

Since I've started I've been strictly only drink 0% fat milk, once I had to get 1% because the store didn't have 0%. Never whole milk. I already cut all juices that I used to drink (orange and cranberry) from my diet since Day 19 (currently on day 72).

I'm happy with the rate I'm going because I'm generally care-free since there is no special calendar date that I'm trying to get fit by. 24 pounds in 72 days without extreme exercising, only doing small to medium workouts everyday in my room and once a week playing soccer with friends. I'm thinking of transitioning into running regularly outside or at the gym since it's getting cold but I've been putting it off.

Still can probably lose another 20-30 pounds but I'm not going to take extreme measures of cutting 0% milk to reach this goal. :/
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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 14:59:55
October 26 2011 14:59 GMT
#13100
if you are drinking milk for its nutrients then imo you should get whole milk. its healthier. but as eshlow said, its better to substitute with water if you are trying to lose weight.
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