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exShikari
Australia237 Posts
On August 29 2011 15:25 Cambium wrote: Nothing precludes you from discussing anything other than weightlifting.... weightlifting is a subset of fitness, so nothing wrong with talking about that either. I don't mind it, I just think a dedicated forum would be better for it seeing as it interests so many people. | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On August 29 2011 15:54 exShikari wrote: I don't mind it, I just think a dedicated forum would be better for it seeing as it interests so many people. yea, i think most of us it, but it's going to take a long time to come  | ||
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Energies
Australia3225 Posts
On August 29 2011 08:59 Sinep wrote: this would happen to anybody. I don't believe genetics are a big part of the laws of energy conservation :p Well look at you and your fancy logic. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
BF: 37,6% H2O: 45,6% MM: 34,1% ==> 117,3% Clearly a high quality product. Consulting the manual, the given guideline values also add up over 100% there, so probably I am missing something. But well, since those numbers are useless anyway, what do I care, I just found it funny. Anyway with a working scale I can finally calculate my caloric needs accurately and don't have to play the guessing game anymore, which is a huge relief. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On August 29 2011 12:30 exShikari wrote: Cardio helps with everything man, everything. I did read the OP which was fine, but yeah this is definitely a weight-lifting thread not a fitness thread which is why I questioned it. Sub-forums would be a good idea. How does cardio help with pullups? Studies would be useful, preferably. I can show how weight lifting helps with running. Can you do the opposite? | ||
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Catch
United States616 Posts
Still waiting on the chalk. Not sure if H&F member in my gym or Lifting gods love me. Frymeme.jpeg Todays workout: Rack Pulls 295 x 5-5-5 BO Rows 140 x 10-10-10 Incline DB Press 70 x 5-4-3 (+2 Reps) Incline DB Flies 45 x 8-7-.5* Suspended Leg Raises +10 lbs x 10-10-10 Seated Calves 140 x 15-15-13 90 x 10 45 x 10 (right leg only) ---- All in all, a good workout despite only getting ~6 hours of sleep (woke up around 5 am, couldn't sleep so lifted :D). Was clearly the loudest person in my gym (Only so quietly can you lower a 295 rack pull back to the rack) at 8 in the morning, but eh whatever. Brightening up the day with some weight never hurt anybody. The only problem is I think I may have begun to injure (as in, starting to if I don't do something about it) my left shoulder. First noticed it on the incline flies, where I accidently used 45 lb dumbbells instead of 40. That is why my last rep consisted of .5 (I noticed it on the second set for sure). A mixed blessing from the lifting gods, must be my form on that exercise (I always felt like my shoulders were worked a bit more than they should be on it)... After my nap I'm about to take, I'll probably be icing it. Kinda pissed about this though, I don't want my process impeded. Also, the backoff + right leg only sets on the seated calves is so to try and match my right calf with my left; as it is I look kind of funny with relatively large left (leg) calf muscles but small on the right. Bummer. I guess. Edit: Study about protein + dairy intake for women, didn't read the whole thing just the abstract. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/141/9/1626.abstract | ||
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Mithrandir
United States99 Posts
On August 29 2011 17:51 Malinor wrote: Today, my scale finally decided to not reject me anymore (meaning I have lost enough weight that it agreed to weigh me for the first time. For the lulz, I measured my bodyfat, H2O% and musclemass. Here are the results (I know, those results are not even worth the display they are displayed on): BF: 37,6% H2O: 45,6% MM: 34,1% ==> 117,3% Clearly a high quality product. Consulting the manual, the given guideline values also add up over 100% there, so probably I am missing something. But well, since those numbers are useless anyway, what do I care, I just found it funny. Anyway with a working scale I can finally calculate my caloric needs accurately and don't have to play the guessing game anymore, which is a huge relief. There is water in muscles... | ||
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Mithrandir
United States99 Posts
On August 29 2011 21:43 eshlow wrote: How does cardio help with pullups? Studies would be useful, preferably. I can show how weight lifting helps with running. Can you do the opposite? Cardio helps with pullups by speeding recovery, if done right. 20 easy min 3x/week sorta deal. Do I get a prize? Now can you show me any world class runners who use weight training? And please, endurance only. I think that's what the guy was referring to. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
On August 30 2011 02:42 Mithrandir wrote: Cardio helps with pullups by speeding recovery, if done right. 20 easy min 3x/week sorta deal. Do I get a prize? Now can you show me any world class runners who use weight training? And please, endurance only. I think that's what the guy was referring to. Top American marathoner Ryan Hall lifts weights. I believe all true elite distance runners do strength training of some kind. If it is not in the form of lifting weights it is in the form of doing plyometrics or drills of various kinds. | ||
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
Squat -- 115x5x5 Bench -- 85x5x5 Chin-ups -- BWx5-5-5-3 Squat was pretty easy but I didn't want to start too high. I'm having trouble balancing on the bench for bench press.. I keep sliding to one side even at bar weight :/ I think it's because I keep trying to push my shoulders up Turns out I don't have the endurance to do 5x5 on BW chin-ups. Will stick to 3x5 on this. Gonna get some 2.5 lbs plates before the next workout so I can start adding  | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On August 30 2011 02:42 Mithrandir wrote: Cardio helps with pullups by speeding recovery, if done right. 20 easy min 3x/week sorta deal. Do I get a prize? Now can you show me any world class runners who use weight training? And please, endurance only. I think that's what the guy was referring to. No, you don't get a prize because you haven't proven anything. Prove to me how the physiological adaptations obtained from cardio help to improve pullups. I asked for studies of which I can provide for athletes in phases of endurance training the benefit of strength work: Rowers: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21510717 Cyclists: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21362056 cross country skiing: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21081854 Runners: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20840561 etc. Also, Hicham El Guerrouj's training program for example: http://run-down.com/guests/mv_el_guerrouj.php You see, I can find studies that prove that strength work supports cardiovascular adaptations. However, you will have lots of trouble reliably proving the opposite. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
United States2573 Posts
The main muscles I am trying to target are: Upper - biceps, triceps, shoulders, upper back, pecs Core and lower back Lower - Quads, hamstrings, glutes, and calves The exercises I plan on lifting heavy on are bench, squat, and romanian deadlift My body weight exercises are pull ups (normal and wide grip), chin ups, pushups, lunges My core and lower back work is done with a medicine ball routine (hits some shoulder, upper back, and triceps as well) The thing about triathlon training is it seems difficult to get a good schedule where you can swim, bike, run, and lift while making sure you can recover from everything you do. I don't want to do more than 3 days of strength training in a week and definitely not more than 2 days in a weight room. I only need the weight room for benching, squating, deadlifts, chin ups, and pull ups. I also don't know much about periodization and progression. I have about a year to train and different stages with different goals to go through. If I want to lift heavy to build true strength do I need to start with higher reps for the first phase of lifting? When should I be doing my heaviest lifting and when should I begin to taper? Thanks for any help that may be given. | ||
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Magicbox
Denmark73 Posts
On August 29 2011 02:22 eshlow wrote: 1. Hundred pushups can use that site which is already posted. 2. Running shoes -- get flats. Weight lifting improves cardiovascular health though too so I don't see why you HAVE to run but that's up to you. 3. Well yeah just go do it :p 4. What is the distance for the competition? When is it? That will depend on what type of training you need if you want to do well 1) yeah, will do 2) Thanks for the advice regarding shoes. I know it improves cardiovascular health, but not in a way where you can honestly say to yourself. Damn, I'm in good shape and I can do fast 5 klom run. My shape is at a point where weightlifting doesn't improve my cardiovascular form anymore. 3) will do as soon as I get a new mountainbike. The old one was stolen a few months ago 4) Iirc the distance is 1 kilometer ind the tourney is in 3 weeks time. We are 10 people rowing and 1 guy/gal being the 'boss' (I have no clue what it's called in English, but basically someone navigating/dealing orders). BUT since we are all first year students and none of us have tried rowing before, our ambition is only to participate. We are going to the local row club so we can start training a bit, so we can at least row synchron, but that's as far as it goes this season (season is almost over). Next season we can start training for real. But this season is only to participate for the lulz (and the girls :-D ) | ||
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decafchicken
United States20022 Posts
+ Show Spoiler [funny story regarding tournament but u…] + Knew a girl that i havent seen in 4 years goes to the school the tournament was at so i was just like "sup mind if i crash with my rugby team on your floor?" to which she replied "me and my roommates would love it!"...i think she thought i was kidding until we all piled out of the van and came in. free stay + food + hooking up = awesome :D | ||
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rEiGN~
369 Posts
By the way, can someone explain this inconsistency? http://stronglifts.com/how-to-perform-the-pendlay-row-with-correct-technique/ "The big difference between Pendlay and Barbell Rows, is that the bar returns to the floor on each rep with Pendlay Rows, like with Deadlifts." YET http://stronglifts.com/how-to-master-barbell-row-technique/ "Here's how to do it: after studying Glenn Pendlay's description of this superior Barbell Row technique, Rowing myself like this for several years and teaching this Row technique to hundreds of guys, I've come up with the seven most important tips to master perfect Barbell Row technique. Here are the 7 tips... 1. Row Each Rep From The Floor." I don't get it. This implies bent barbell row and pendlay row are the same thing. It's even the same author. | ||
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
In theory you should be able to pull more weight pendlay style, its more explosive. But it's really really hard to do correctly, that's why hardly anyone does it. | ||
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Malinor
Germany4727 Posts
Yeah, that is the obvious solution I didn't think of  , adding up to 100% wouldn't leave much space for organs and bones and stuff anyway (but please don't tell me there is water in them also) Such a boring explanation though | ||
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rEiGN~
369 Posts
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glurio
Germany597 Posts
Can't really say when it starts, but here dorian yates teaches bent over row, thats how i do them. Not quite parallel to the floor, overhand grip. | ||
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joeendzel
United States12 Posts
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