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Sneakyz
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2361 Posts
July 28 2011 15:48 GMT
#9261
On July 29 2011 00:28 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 00:20 funkie wrote:
good workout eysterday, After 3 days of not going :D

Front Squat 3x5 92kg - Felt so easy, and I don't know why.

Squat 60kg x 10

Deadlift 130kg x 5

Neutral Grip Pull Up 7-6-6

What's a neutral grip pull-up? When your palms are facing each other?

Yep, that is correct.
I have found the Iron to be my greatest friend. It never freaks out on me, never runs. Friends may come and go. But two hundred pounds is always two hundred pounds.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
July 28 2011 15:53 GMT
#9262
On July 29 2011 00:12 glurio wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 28 2011 15:17 RemedySC wrote:
Quick question!

While squatting today, i had a sharp pain in my right leg just a bit below the hip area. Could only do a few reps and had to move on. I also had this pain on Monday but after the first set the pain went away.
Wondering if anyone has an idea on why it would be hurting, thanks!

Also here is my workout for today...

Squat: 170lbs 1x2
Bench: 110lbs 3x5 (So weird, couldn't do bench on Friday but today I blasted threw them easy.)
Deadlifts: 175lbs 1x5



Was it a pulling pain? Might be the hip flexors, train em (leg raises) and massage em. (Do it at home, massaging your crotch area in the gym sometimes gets viewed as weird, ignorant fools!)
To find the right spot lay down, touch your hipbone and go about an inch down on your leg and to the inside, now lift the upper leg a bit. There should be a muscle that tenses now. (If not lift it up and to the right slight outward rotation.) Massage in circular motions, use quite a bit of force, doesn't need to be long few minutes are enough.
Hope you can follow that, much harder to explain than i thought it would be.

Might be something totally different though, so see if it helps if not describe it better.


looks like we have a second eshlow
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
RemedySC
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada176 Posts
July 28 2011 16:47 GMT
#9263
@Eshlow, It only hurts when I do a squat with weight. The pain is about an inch down the leg and to the inside.

@Glurio, Thanks! I'll try that out, sounds like what it could be.
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 28 2011 17:14 GMT
#9264
On July 29 2011 00:28 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 00:20 funkie wrote:
good workout eysterday, After 3 days of not going :D

Front Squat 3x5 92kg - Felt so easy, and I don't know why.

Squat 60kg x 10

Deadlift 130kg x 5

Neutral Grip Pull Up 7-6-6

What's a neutral grip pull-up? When your palms are facing each other?


Yes. Also sometimes called hammer grip pullups (or hammer grip chin ups.)
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 28 2011 19:32 GMT
#9265
On July 29 2011 02:14 phyre112 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2011 00:28 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
On July 29 2011 00:20 funkie wrote:
good workout eysterday, After 3 days of not going :D

Front Squat 3x5 92kg - Felt so easy, and I don't know why.

Squat 60kg x 10

Deadlift 130kg x 5

Neutral Grip Pull Up 7-6-6

What's a neutral grip pull-up? When your palms are facing each other?


Yes. Also sometimes called hammer grip pullups (or hammer grip chin ups.)


I like it cause, it engages my shoulders more, and well, it's a nice warmup excercise too. :p.

I do it before squats, and mostly every lifting day ;D.

I want to do more power Cleans, but dunno, been lacking organization. GOGO POWER CLEANNNNNN
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 28 2011 19:48 GMT
#9266
On July 29 2011 01:47 RemedySC wrote:
@Eshlow, It only hurts when I do a squat with weight. The pain is about an inch down the leg and to the inside.

@Glurio, Thanks! I'll try that out, sounds like what it could be.


IF it's a strain... big if then you should follow this type of protocol

http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/01/on-muscle-strains/
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4735 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-28 23:00:47
July 28 2011 22:21 GMT
#9267
Bench: 97,5kg 5-5-8 (just for fun...)
Assisted Chins: 5-3-3-3-2@95 (neutral grip)
Front Squat: 120kg 3-3-3
Good Mornings: 67,5kg 8-8-8

The squat rack was occupied, so I had to do the other stuff first. I suck at front squatting (flexibility, tiny fat fingers) and since they are basically an upper body exercise for me, doing bench and chins beforehand surely didn't help. The rest of the workout was pretty decent.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
July 28 2011 23:24 GMT
#9268
Chin ups
40 x 4.5-3-4

Pulldowns
120 x 10-10-10

Seated OH Press
100 x 5-5-5

DB Lat Raises
30 x 1

Seated OH Press
65 x 8-8

Standing Calves
200 x 12-12-12

Weighted Pullover/downs
90 x 10-10-10
----------

The 35s for DB lat raises were taken. I didn't want to do them anyway

Anyways, everything else is just dandy. I struggle with the last third of the rep on chin ups. It is my sticking point, but I don't know what my weak point is in that case. Pull downs are fine, I'm going to 130 next time. Seated OH presses are easier for me than standing. And that's about all I got for ya. Good workout, even though I am getting a little sick (Again, need to really get some vitamin D or something)

Hopefully I'm recovered for tomorrow. My legs had some DOMs in them today.

Boy, when are we getting our forum? I want to have a journal over here too.
Victory Loves Preparation
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 29 2011 02:05 GMT
#9269
@catch, seated oh press should always be easier. Less core strength necessary to keep your body vertical and underneath the bar, and if there's a back or a foot rest, you can "cheat" pretty well, leaning back a bit.

I think we need to start bugging the forum bosses again for that forum. I'd really like to be able to add a running thread at least so we aren't scaring so many people off with the "do ss" mantra.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
July 29 2011 02:23 GMT
#9270
Numbers in pounds

squats
195 x 5 x 3
Felt really good, right knee actually felt BETTER after the squats.

bench
205 x 4 x 3
Shitty bench numbers still

deadlifts
295 x 5 x 1
305 x 1 x 1
295 x 3 x 1
Felt really good about DLs too. Will move up soon.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Catch
Profile Joined September 2010
United States616 Posts
July 29 2011 03:07 GMT
#9271
On July 29 2011 11:05 phyre112 wrote:
@catch, seated oh press should always be easier. Less core strength necessary to keep your body vertical and underneath the bar, and if there's a back or a foot rest, you can "cheat" pretty well, leaning back a bit.

I think we need to start bugging the forum bosses again for that forum. I'd really like to be able to add a running thread at least so we aren't scaring so many people off with the "do ss" mantra.


Ah. Okay good. And here I thought I was getting stronger.

However I did notice my leaning back when I did 95 lbs. There is both a back and foot rest, but I only use the back rest. Anyways, I fixed it when I did my sets today.

But I agree. We'll have to message every single one There have been a few threads I've wanted to make but I don't want to put them in general really.
Victory Loves Preparation
Steeped
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada87 Posts
July 29 2011 05:29 GMT
#9272
So today i had a complete day off, i didn't work and it wasn't a gym day. Im doing SS and i go mon/wed/fri but man i had a hard time just doing nothing today. I ended up just going to the gym and not doing any big lifts but working out my arms and doing light weights to strengthen my shoulder. It felt really good and i feel like doing this more often on my off days and stop when i start failing my SS lifts then just focus on that again. I've been starting to feel like working out everyday now but im worried it will affect the SS program.
jjhchsc2
Profile Joined December 2010
Korea (South)2393 Posts
July 29 2011 06:18 GMT
#9273
ahhhh back to basketball season-
Do any of you guys train your 50/100m sprints?
is it still like any strength training where you would do a sprint 3x5/5x5?
do weighted sprints increase your speed or is it just unecessary?

My vertical jump (where you just jump straight up into the air) gone from 42cm to 52 cm and back down to 47cm by yesterday. it increased coz i lost abit of weight and i was doing alot of running/basketball and i am now looking to increase it again.
i have found this site http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/plyometricexercises.html and found it pretty useful. seem good?
Are there any benefits of doing any of the excercises 1 legged? except for the fact that it is harder?
Are there any other calisthenics/simple weight training to increase my vertical jump as well?
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
July 29 2011 07:36 GMT
#9274
Did some presses yesterday

Speed bench: 60kg x 3-3-3
Military presses up to 60kg x 5-5-5
Push press: 70kg x 1, 80kg x 1, 90 x 1-1-1 and 100kg x 0-1

The 100kg was a jerk though...still pretty pleased
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
July 29 2011 08:37 GMT
#9275
On July 29 2011 15:18 jjhchsc2 wrote:
ahhhh back to basketball season-
Do any of you guys train your 50/100m sprints?
is it still like any strength training where you would do a sprint 3x5/5x5?
do weighted sprints increase your speed or is it just unecessary?

My vertical jump (where you just jump straight up into the air) gone from 42cm to 52 cm and back down to 47cm by yesterday. it increased coz i lost abit of weight and i was doing alot of running/basketball and i am now looking to increase it again.
i have found this site http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/plyometricexercises.html and found it pretty useful. seem good?
Are there any benefits of doing any of the excercises 1 legged? except for the fact that it is harder?
Are there any other calisthenics/simple weight training to increase my vertical jump as well?


For sprinting volume, 3x5 or 5x5 would be terrible. Look into "High Intensity Interval Training" - Basically you sprint all out for a period of time, then either rest or jog for a period of time, then sprint again. If you've already got the cardio down to run through an entire basketball game, this should be the main thing you need to do to improve. Weighted sprints are only going to lead to injury. I'm not entirely sure how you would "weight" them - carrying a dumbbell? Strapping heavy things to your wrist/ankles? Either way, don't bother.

Plyometrics are helpful, if you've already got strength behind them - especially when it comes to things like vertical jump. These types of things might be useful for changing directions, but if jumping is what you're worried about, look elsewhere. First, Squat heavy. Second, Power clean (or even better, full clean) heavy. The squat is a Huge strength movement, involving the majority of muscles in the body, especially the lower body and core. The power clean (and the full clean) are an explosive movement, that when properly executed take a large portion of that strength, and put it to use very quickly. You can mess around with all the running, the box jumps, the one legged jump squats, whatever.... and they'll give you some results, but anyone who's got a great vertical leap also has a big squat. There's just no better way to develop the leg strength.

Get on a strength program like SS - perhaps modified to only work out 2 days a week if you're doing a lot of basketball in between, and you will see an improvement in your basketball, in more areas than just your jump. Some plyometrics are worth doing - and you can add those in eventually, but unless you're already strong, they're not the best way to get where you want to go.
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
July 29 2011 13:33 GMT
#9276
so I tried to go light today because of the exercise induced headaches. not a chance: even warming up was painful. Im really gonna take a break for 2 weeks now and rest up (and lose some of that belly fat!)

sucks but oh well gonna go check with a doctor next week too, just to be sure.
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
July 29 2011 17:16 GMT
#9277
On July 29 2011 22:33 Zafrumi wrote:
so I tried to go light today because of the exercise induced headaches. not a chance: even warming up was painful. Im really gonna take a break for 2 weeks now and rest up (and lose some of that belly fat!)

sucks but oh well gonna go check with a doctor next week too, just to be sure.


Seriously, don't worry.

Those 2 weeks will work do wonders for you, It's always nice (at least for me) that after a couple of months of hard training and stuff, if I know i'm injured badly, I won't go on until I'm rested. but yes, I've done this once (2weeks) and by the time I got back I was so fucking tired of doing nothing, and Was excited to lift.

So yeah, enjoy two weeks of relax and sleep and eat well. Your body will thank you. inmensely.

in the mean time, cheer me up! :D 110kg squat coming today .
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
July 29 2011 18:01 GMT
#9278
Damn haven't been here in a while. Been hyper busy with work after my firefighter's test. I get my results sometime in Sept or Oct. Long wait

Taken a few weeks off for vacation and then a lot of work and traveling. Haven't been able to lift in a few weeks now. I feel fat. Been eating like shit too LoL. All I want to do is go home and lift in my garage to clear my head.
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
July 29 2011 18:25 GMT
#9279
On July 29 2011 15:18 jjhchsc2 wrote:
ahhhh back to basketball season-
Do any of you guys train your 50/100m sprints?
is it still like any strength training where you would do a sprint 3x5/5x5?
do weighted sprints increase your speed or is it just unecessary?

My vertical jump (where you just jump straight up into the air) gone from 42cm to 52 cm and back down to 47cm by yesterday. it increased coz i lost abit of weight and i was doing alot of running/basketball and i am now looking to increase it again.
i have found this site http://www.sport-fitness-advisor.com/plyometricexercises.html and found it pretty useful. seem good?
Are there any benefits of doing any of the excercises 1 legged? except for the fact that it is harder?
Are there any other calisthenics/simple weight training to increase my vertical jump as well?


Read Kelly Baggett's stuff

http://www.higher-faster-sports.com/
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Steeped
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada87 Posts
July 29 2011 19:45 GMT
#9280
todays workout...
bodyweight: 160lbs

Squat: 175lbs 3x5 (i actually started using my abs for this and man it helps a lot)
OHP: 65lbs 3x5 this didn't hurt my shoulder till the last set but even that wasn't bad i think my AC joint is healing up nicely.
PC: 105lbs this was really easy and my form is getting pretty good to

I also did some lay down leg curls and leg extensions as well as some ab and light shoulder workouts. I feel like ive had a good day and SS is really showing results . Now to work and eat the amazing supper i prepared.
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