EPTBreakfast:
5 eggs with 2 slices gouda cheese
a Larabar
Dinner (I don't really ever eat lunch)
Veggies w/ ranch
Sweet potato
Can of tuna, straight from can (thanks eshlow)
Handful of almonds
Slice of cheese
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Dalguno
United States2446 Posts
Breakfast: 5 eggs with 2 slices gouda cheese a Larabar Dinner (I don't really ever eat lunch) Veggies w/ ranch Sweet potato Can of tuna, straight from can (thanks eshlow) Handful of almonds Slice of cheese | ||
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dudeman001
United States2412 Posts
On July 01 2011 05:18 Snuggles wrote: It should be "read the links in the OP" rather just read the OP =P. But yeah I went over the OP again and looked into the links. Annnnnd I friggin knew it, I've been doing this all wrong jesus christ. I've been doing that routine everyday (for months) and I knew something had to be wrong when I didn't seem to get any stronger at all at some point. What a waste of time... So from what I'm reading what I've been wanting to do all this time but not understanding it is the bodyweight exercises in the OP. So from what you guys have said doing just push ups and bicep curls will not get me muscle? If I add those planches, levers, straddles, and whatnot to my routine would that be a proper workout for decent muscle gain? Or do I have no choice and must buy a barbell to see any results? I am doing 35 and 40 lb bicep curls, big improvement from the tiny 10lb ones I did when I started but is that also the wrong way to gain bicep muscle mass? Thanks for explaining the HIIT thing out thoroughly. I was very confused on what it was exactly. I though it was just some crazy lifting routine that would have you on the verge of snapping your arms in half but if I can do it with sprinting then that is going to be awesome. Back when I was just in the right shape in High school my tennis team would have us do these sprints over and over until I literally had trouble walking. But it was so worth it because it really made me feel good about fully working myself out like that. Haha don't think of it as a waste of time, think of it as a learning experience.  The links in the OP are good if you have access to normal gym equipment, i.e. the barbell. If you don't have the money, time, or drive to get access to that equipment, there's no reason you can't still work out. It's just much better to do exercises that work more than 1 muscle group.Curls, for example, work out the biceps. Pretty straight forward. However chin ups let you work your biceps in addition to your lats (back muscle). Compound exercises activate multiple muscle groups and let/make you do more work. Push ups are still good, squats are great, and these are exercises you can do on the floor (except of course chin ups which require some sort of bar to hang on). You can still do curls, just make sure you're keeping good form and going very slow. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
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Malinor
Germany4732 Posts
Bench Press: 82,5kg 5-5-5 Assisted Chins (neutral grip): 6-6-5@115 (don't really know what the 115 indicates, but basically the goal is to get down to 0) First time doing a real Front Squat workout, glad I didn't start lower as planned. 90kg came easily, will increase by 5kg for a couple of weeks. Bench Press still easy. Chins were the first step to finally become a man that can lift his own bodyweight Shoulder didn' feel stressed, so that was the most important part.Although Day2 in Texas Method is supposed to be easy, that workout didn't challenge me enough I feel. I will probably add one assistance exercise from now on... just can't decide which one. Maybe I'll just rotate or sth. | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
And i benched 50kg's today, can't WAIT to properly start SS. God damnit gymming is so good, scores dates is so good, so community is so omgomgomgomg so good, I heart you guys. And this is me being sober. Will write the promised battle report tomorrow. | ||
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Necosarius
Sweden4042 Posts
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
. I have angered the kraken who will soon come to devour me. I don't know I just see quite small guys lifting insane weights in powerlifting, whose bodies aren't impressive...and they are kicking around the 1-3-5 rep thing and then I see guys who bodybuild and kick around 8-10-12. Is there seriously nothing in that? I really did think there was a distinction between training for optimal strength gains and for optimal muscle gains.Anyway, quite a good back day today, feeling strong and pushed my PRs, 9 reps of 235lbs wide grip pulldown :D. And in terms of trying to get the squat sorted out, I think me and FFgenerations are going to have a 'form day' soon so we can make sure we are coming along right. Will include pics and maybe vids. PS good news for le me, asked a girl out and was accepted  . Can't wait for BouBou's battlereport.On July 01 2011 07:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I made the most out of my explosive gains just now, by turning my xbox 360 controller into a shattered pile of pieces. I need a squat rack in my room so I can more productively vent my frustration This is so funny because I was toying around with the idea of opening up a gaming lounge on the high street of Brighton, because there were so many empty shops available and they were going cheap. One of the plans was to have a small room with a boxing bag and gloves!!!!! | ||
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FFGenerations
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stevarius
United States1394 Posts
On July 01 2011 07:51 sc4k wrote: FFFuuuuu I'm really sorry for annoying you Eshlow . I have angered the kraken who will soon come to devour me. I don't know I just see quite small guys lifting insane weights in powerlifting, whose bodies aren't impressive...and they are kicking around the 1-3-5 rep thing and then I see guys who bodybuild and kick around 8-10-12. Is there seriously nothing in that? I really did think there was a distinction between training for optimal strength gains and for optimal muscle gains.Anyway, quite a good back day today, feeling strong and pushed my PRs, 9 reps of 235lbs wide grip pulldown :D. And in terms of trying to get the squat sorted out, I think me and FFgenerations are going to have a 'form day' soon so we can make sure we are coming along right. Will include pics and maybe vids. PS good news for le me, asked a girl out and was accepted . Can't wait for BouBou's battlereport.This is so funny because I was toying around with the idea of opening up a gaming lounge on the high street of Brighton, because there were so many empty shops available and they were going cheap. One of the plans was to have a small room with a boxing bag and gloves!!!!! Be sure to get the bags that you can kick as well. Nothing beats a spinning back kick to vent frustration. | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
On July 01 2011 07:51 sc4k wrote: FFFuuuuu I'm really sorry for annoying you Eshlow . I have angered the kraken who will soon come to devour me. I don't know I just see quite small guys lifting insane weights in powerlifting, whose bodies aren't impressive...and they are kicking around the 1-3-5 rep thing and then I see guys who bodybuild and kick around 8-10-12. Is there seriously nothing in that? I really did think there was a distinction between training for optimal strength gains and for optimal muscle gains.Anyway, quite a good back day today, feeling strong and pushed my PRs, 9 reps of 235lbs wide grip pulldown :D. And in terms of trying to get the squat sorted out, I think me and FFgenerations are going to have a 'form day' soon so we can make sure we are coming along right. Will include pics and maybe vids. PS good news for le me, asked a girl out and was accepted . Can't wait for BouBou's battlereport.This is so funny because I was toying around with the idea of opening up a gaming lounge on the high street of Brighton, because there were so many empty shops available and they were going cheap. One of the plans was to have a small room with a boxing bag and gloves!!!!! looking at your split (actually ive never looked at it) , you do chest once a week, arms once a week, legs once a week, etc. looking at starting strength, SS does EVERYTHING, THREE times a week. starting strength maximises the FREQUENCY at which you train your whole body. its a beginners program because only beginners can keep up with the recovery that is required by it!! its designed to get the MOST TOTAL gains possible over as short a time period as possible. thats why in SS you train until you hit a barrier and THEN look at another program that has a lower frequency split. also, SS tells you to train strength first and foremost (5 reps of heavy weight) and later worry about muscle size (which is also known as hypertrophy or bodybuilding - 10 reps of lighter weight). why would you want to make bigger in size what is weak? some people dont give a rats ass about muscle size and instead continue training for strength. some of these people keep bulking and get big, some of them get obsessed with their bodyfat % and will look smaller. idk if this made anything clearer, i think if you're reading SS it says all this. the thing that is important to note is that SS is for beginners because only beginners can cope with the frequency of doing so many heavy compounds so often - a GOOD thing! | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On July 01 2011 08:16 FFGenerations wrote: anyone got decafs last insane deadlift youtube clip bookmarked? yup: + Show Spoiler + Today's workout: week 1 of cycle 3 on 3/5/1 Flat Bench: 67,5kg x 5, 77,5kg x 5, 87,5kg x 5 and 3 singles at 95kg. Millitary: 60kg x 5-5-5 Short workout. The bench was heavy and found out on the way home that I only should've done 3 reps on all the working sets...oh well, a new 5rep PR by 2.5kg and next week will just be easier. | ||
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On July 01 2011 07:03 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: I made the most out of my explosive gains just now, by turning my xbox 360 controller into a shattered pile of pieces. I need a squat rack in my room so I can more productively vent my frustration I think it's actually most practical of all just to exercise your self control | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On July 01 2011 09:28 travis wrote: I think it's actually most practical of all just to exercise your self control I think you are wrong. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
Im getting around 50% fat (mostly unsaturated though) 5% carbs and 45% protein now. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On July 01 2011 09:54 Release wrote: What is a good caloric ratio of Fat:Carbs: Protein for a low carb diet? Im getting around 50% fat (mostly unsaturated though) 5% carbs and 45% protein now. over ~35% protein is just useless iirc. I haven't searched up the numbers lately, but excessive protein intake just gets broken down for energy and doesn't do anything else - and fats and carbs are more efficient energy anyway. Going low carb I would personally just try to go through the day and eat as few of them as possible, but count them. Next day cut more, next day cut more. When you hit a day where you're just lacking a major amount of energy, you know you've gone too low. This is assuming you're on a "traditional" low-carb, not an almost "no-carb" like Keto. On July 01 2011 05:18 Snuggles wrote: It should be "read the links in the OP" rather just read the OP =P. But yeah I went over the OP again and looked into the links. Annnnnd I friggin knew it, I've been doing this all wrong jesus christ. I've been doing that routine everyday (for months) and I knew something had to be wrong when I didn't seem to get any stronger at all at some point. What a waste of time... Don't think of it as a waste of time - at least you were doing SOMETHING, and your heart was in the right place. It's also got you in the mindset that you're going to be working out regularly, which is great for someone just coming into training. On July 01 2011 05:18 Snuggles wrote: So from what I'm reading what I've been wanting to do all this time but not understanding it is the bodyweight exercises in the OP. So from what you guys have said doing just push ups and bicep curls will not get me muscle? If I add those planches, levers, straddles, and whatnot to my routine would that be a proper workout for decent muscle gain? Or do I have no choice and must buy a barbell to see any results? I am doing 35 and 40 lb bicep curls, big improvement from the tiny 10lb ones I did when I started but is that also the wrong way to gain bicep muscle mass? You don't want JUST bicep mass, trust me. It's not at all attractive, and it's not useful for anything. You want to work out your entire body with whatever routine you're doing. Whether that is over many days (a split) or all at the same time (SS/SL/beginner programs) or somewhere in between is up to you, your goals and your schedule. That said, Body weight training is going to get you stronger. If you're dedicated to the program and make yourself progress properly, it's probably better than barbell training for strength. However, it's NOT going to get you "big" as well as a barbell is. It's just not the right kind of exercise to do such a thing. Also note, to do levers and other certain exercises with body weight, you're going to need to get a pullup bar and a set of rings (probably from amazon). It's cheaper than a barbell, but it's still a purchase. On July 01 2011 05:18 Snuggles wrote: Thanks for explaining the HIIT thing out thoroughly. I was very confused on what it was exactly. I though it was just some crazy lifting routine that would have you on the verge of snapping your arms in half but if I can do it with sprinting then that is going to be awesome. Back when I was just in the right shape in High school my tennis team would have us do these sprints over and over until I literally had trouble walking. But it was so worth it because it really made me feel good about fully working myself out like that. What your tennis team (or a track/cross country team, or anything similar) did was probably exactly what we're talking about. Run hard, rest. Run hard, rest. Also just known as "interval training" and "sprinting" to those of us who are runners =p. | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On July 01 2011 09:54 Release wrote: What is a good caloric ratio of Fat:Carbs: Protein for a low carb diet? Im getting around 50% fat (mostly unsaturated though) 5% carbs and 45% protein now. over ~35% protein is just useless iirc. I haven't searched up the numbers lately, but excessive protein intake just gets broken down for energy and doesn't do anything else - and fats and carbs are more efficient energy anyway. Going low carb I would personally just try to go through the day and eat as few of them as possible, but count them. Next day cut more, next day cut more. When you hit a day where you're just lacking a major amount of energy, you know you've gone too low. This is assuming you're on a "traditional" low-carb, not an almost "no-carb" like Keto. On July 01 2011 05:18 Snuggles wrote: It should be "read the links in the OP" rather just read the OP =P. But yeah I went over the OP again and looked into the links. Annnnnd I friggin knew it, I've been doing this all wrong jesus christ. I've been doing that routine everyday (for months) and I knew something had to be wrong when I didn't seem to get any stronger at all at some point. What a waste of time... Don't think of it as a waste of time - at least you were doing SOMETHING, and your heart was in the right place. It's also got you in the mindset that you're going to be working out regularly, which is great for someone just coming into training. On July 01 2011 05:18 Snuggles wrote: So from what I'm reading what I've been wanting to do all this time but not understanding it is the bodyweight exercises in the OP. So from what you guys have said doing just push ups and bicep curls will not get me muscle? If I add those planches, levers, straddles, and whatnot to my routine would that be a proper workout for decent muscle gain? Or do I have no choice and must buy a barbell to see any results? I am doing 35 and 40 lb bicep curls, big improvement from the tiny 10lb ones I did when I started but is that also the wrong way to gain bicep muscle mass? You don't want JUST bicep mass, trust me. It's not at all attractive, and it's not useful for anything. You want to work out your entire body with whatever routine you're doing. Whether that is over many days (a split) or all at the same time (SS/SL/beginner programs) or somewhere in between is up to you, your goals and your schedule. That said, Body weight training is going to get you stronger. If you're dedicated to the program and make yourself progress properly, it's probably better than barbell training for strength. However, it's NOT going to get you "big" as well as a barbell is. It's just not the right kind of exercise to do such a thing. Also note, to do levers and other certain exercises with body weight, you're going to need to get a pullup bar and a set of rings (probably from amazon). It's cheaper than a barbell, but it's still a purchase. On July 01 2011 05:18 Snuggles wrote: Thanks for explaining the HIIT thing out thoroughly. I was very confused on what it was exactly. I though it was just some crazy lifting routine that would have you on the verge of snapping your arms in half but if I can do it with sprinting then that is going to be awesome. Back when I was just in the right shape in High school my tennis team would have us do these sprints over and over until I literally had trouble walking. But it was so worth it because it really made me feel good about fully working myself out like that. What your tennis team (or a track/cross country team, or anything similar) did was probably exactly what we're talking about. Run hard, rest. Run hard, rest. Also just known as "interval training" and "sprinting" to those of us who are runners =p. Just got home. Cut and stacked wood for two hours, which was heavier than expected. The logs are big, the wood was wet, and the splitter wasn't working well. That was alright though, broke a sweat and got some sunshine. Next up I hit the gym - I've switched my routine from SS to a push/pull routine, but almost every exercise is a heavy compound in the 3-8 reps range for 1-3 sets. Just needed a change at this point, so I figured I would do it as long as the whole thing stayed balanced and heavy. Will keep you updated on progress =) Then I had basketball. Dear God - Deadlifts, stiff leg deadlifts, hamstring curls, pendlay rows, pullups, and bicep curls (pull day lol?) then an hour and a half of straight basketball, with high school kids that are in better shape than me. I can barely walk from my fridge to my stove to make a meal right now. Ordered some things from amazon today too. Protein Powder (because I'm not eating regularly enough at home) Creatine, a new multi-vitamin because mine ran out, and a pre-workout supplement that I found recommended on leangains. Should get here in a few days. Time to go super bulking decaf mode? | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On July 01 2011 10:58 Release wrote: The only carbs i'm getting is from milk and vegetables, so i should cut milk? Vegetables are necessary to healthy diet. If you're trying to go very low carb or keto cut the milk and veggies. stock up on the coconut milk and heavy cream and fatty meats Low carb I'd stick veggies back in for the most part. Um depends on how low you want to go though | ||
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
Glad people here are landing dates left and right ^_^ Can't remember last time i was in a gym with girl i wanted to date either for that matter (working out at high schools and garages is not conducive to picking up women, legal one anyways :p) Also don't know the last time i went on a date with a girl lol (pick ups at the bars ftw) Missed working out yesterday, can't wait to get back in the gym. I want to land a decent CJ (135+) one of these days T_T On June 30 2011 19:15 sc4k wrote: Putting this poll here so it gets some respondents , post about it is on bottom of previous page:Poll: What is your workout goal? Purely gain strength (13) Gain both but more strength (8) Lose weight (7) Gain both but more muscle (7) Purely gain muscle (3) (3) 41 total votes Your vote: What is your workout goal? (Vote): Lose weight Mine's to get more athletic. Above all, i want to absolutely shit on people while playing rugby. I want to be faster stronger and all around better than everyone else on the field. Besides, that i fucking LOVE lifting heavy shit and throwing it over my head. Picking up the ladies = awesome side effect. Size is probably the least of my concerns. I'm decently sized overall (if not quite dense for my weight) and my legs are fucking huge so i'm happy :D On June 30 2011 22:15 Malinor wrote: Weight loss for me. I'd like to look like a decent human being for once. Anyone who squats 220kg is an awesome human being to me <3 On July 01 2011 05:18 Snuggles wrote: It should be "read the links in the OP" rather just read the OP =P. But yeah I went over the OP again and looked into the links. Annnnnd I friggin knew it, I've been doing this all wrong jesus christ. I've been doing that routine everyday (for months) and I knew something had to be wrong when I didn't seem to get any stronger at all at some point. What a waste of time... So from what I'm reading what I've been wanting to do all this time but not understanding it is the bodyweight exercises in the OP. So from what you guys have said doing just push ups and bicep curls will not get me muscle? If I add those planches, levers, straddles, and whatnot to my routine would that be a proper workout for decent muscle gain? Or do I have no choice and must buy a barbell to see any results? I am doing 35 and 40 lb bicep curls, big improvement from the tiny 10lb ones I did when I started but is that also the wrong way to gain bicep muscle mass? Thanks for explaining the HIIT thing out thoroughly. I was very confused on what it was exactly. I though it was just some crazy lifting routine that would have you on the verge of snapping your arms in half but if I can do it with sprinting then that is going to be awesome. Back when I was just in the right shape in High school my tennis team would have us do these sprints over and over until I literally had trouble walking. But it was so worth it because it really made me feel good about fully working myself out like that. If you want to get bigger, stronger muscles then find a barbell and squat rack. Whether its a gym or buying one on craigslist its the best investment you can make. Squats and deadlifts turn you into a man real quick. Quit obsessing over your biceps, they're useless. I honestly can not tell you the last time i did a bicep curl. The bodyweight exercises in the OP are a great alternative if you have no access to a bar or if you want to be able to do really sweet things like push ups with no legs | ||
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