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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 15 2011 20:08 GMT
#7261
On June 15 2011 12:09 NeverGG wrote:
Another random post, but I'm getting really sick (literally) of feeling like this (It's been going on since Uni, but only on and off.) so;

I tend to feel really nauseous in the mornings, in periods between meals (even if I snack) and if I stay up later than my normal sleeping pattern (I go to bed at 11pm since my body clock makes me start feeling sleepy then.)

I noticed that my morning and night time nausea was greatly reduced when I was eating the following diet;

+ 3 meals a day.
+ Focusing on steamed vegetables, tofu and restricted dressings/condiments.
+ At least two liters of water a day.
+ No food after 7:30.

I've been off the wagon for a couple of months now, and my diet looks more like this; (I also gained 9kg -_-; )

+ Junk food every day. Lots of simple carbs and dairy.
+ 2 meals a day.
+ Snacking a lot during the day.
+ A heavy dinner.
+ Water (when I remember it.) but mostly soda.

I'm trying to give myself a kick up the bum to get back into my good habits, and lose the weight. However, does anyone have any suggestions for coping with this constant nausea during the process of converting back to a healthier diet? (And also any ideas as to the causes.)


TBH you should eat meat...

Can't go wrong with veggies, fruits, nuts, seeds, meat, fish, birds, eggs in most cases


On June 16 2011 00:51 Razith wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 00:28 Levistus wrote:
ok so here's what i'll be eating every meal for now til i get tired of it.
stir fry prolly:
carrots
chayotes
broccoli
chinese cabbage
mushroom
green beans

now what do i pair with my veggies? can i just eat hard boiled eggs or something? any easy to cook meat? maybe ground beef omelet?

btw i dunno if i put too much veggies. just say so if you think a certain veggie is not impt in my list or if you want to replace something.

thx guys


This is sort of a bad idea. Just eat a lean meat with every meal, 1/3 of your meals have a starchy carb like brown rice or bread (preferably in the morning), try to stay away from things like white rice / noodles / pasta, white bread, potatoes, and with every meal have some veggies, preferably green.



Junk the brown rice and bread

Eat white rice if needed or potatoes/ sweet potatoes

Re:
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_good_the_bad_and_the_assfattening_the_new_starchy_carb_food_pyramid

I'll pull studies if I have to

Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 15 2011 20:10 GMT
#7262
On June 16 2011 03:30 Release wrote:
How much vitamin D does a human need per day? I found two almost identical supplements, but one has 1000IU and the other has 2000IU.


If you're out in summer sun naked you make about 10k IU in 30 minutes or so from what I've seen on the research

So... if you're not outside any ideally you want a 5k or 10k pill.

On June 16 2011 03:33 Kennigit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 03:30 Release wrote:
How much vitamin D does a human need per day? I found two almost identical supplements, but one has 1000IU and the other has 2000IU.

Its not really how much you "need" as much as how much your body processes in a day. You could eat 50 multivitamins but you are going to piss most of it out. (full disclosure: zero medical background, just what i heard).


It's true for water soluble vitamins. Most vitamins are just expensive pee since it's been shown that nutrients absorb better with real food.

Generally, fat soluble vitamins absorb better especially if you eat them with fats.... but how significantly I don't know
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
June 15 2011 20:13 GMT
#7263
Wait, white rice is better than brown rice ? :o
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
June 15 2011 20:22 GMT
#7264
On June 16 2011 04:33 sJarl wrote:
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong

Oh my god I only just noticed this in your sig, Karsa is such a fucking boss! I'm reading the last book now :D .
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 20:27:00
June 15 2011 20:25 GMT
#7265
Pretty good workout this evening. Probably cos I already cheated on my diet and had a pizza for lunch lol.

Deadlift warmup 3 rep ramp up to 3x150kg. Then 8x160 3x180 2x180 7x160
Sumo deadlift 8x140
Barbell curl 6x60 6x60 10x50
Lat pulldown 4x120. Then dropset 8x110 5x100 5x90 8x80 8x80 ~20 sec rest between
Row machine with chest support 4 sets
Dumbell row 10x60 10x60 10x60
Triset of: cable pullover 50kg, barbell row (revers grip) 60kg, dumbell scottcurl 12,5kg. 4 rounds of this so 12 sets total. Started on 20 reps of each exercise then just to fail and it ended on 12-15 reps.


Pretty tired all around I think I should have taken a week rest before starting diet. Been training 4 times a week lately will probably drop it to only 3 times.
Carson
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada820 Posts
June 15 2011 20:32 GMT
#7266
On June 16 2011 03:30 Release wrote:
How much vitamin D does a human need per day? I found two almost identical supplements, but one has 1000IU and the other has 2000IU.


Check this out: http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/site/d-toxicity/

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/site/vitamin-d-part-2/

I saw this on the moblie app food for thought
"You have to remember something: Everybody pities the weak; jealousy you have to earn." Arnold Schwarzenegger
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 15 2011 20:38 GMT
#7267
On June 16 2011 05:13 Necosarius wrote:
Wait, white rice is better than brown rice ? :o


Yes, because brown rice still has the bran/germ stuff like other grains do which may make you have digestive issues

Starch (rice, potatoes, etc.) is not a problem for those who do not have impaired glucose metabolism
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 15 2011 20:39 GMT
#7268
On June 16 2011 05:32 Carson wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 03:30 Release wrote:
How much vitamin D does a human need per day? I found two almost identical supplements, but one has 1000IU and the other has 2000IU.


Check this out: http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/site/d-toxicity/

http://www.ironmanmagazine.com/site/vitamin-d-part-2/

I saw this on the moblie app food for thought


http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2009/10/a-closer-look-at-vitamin-d/
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Razith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada431 Posts
June 15 2011 21:20 GMT
#7269
Show nested quote +

This is sort of a bad idea. Just eat a lean meat with every meal, 1/3 of your meals have a starchy carb like brown rice or bread (preferably in the morning), try to stay away from things like white rice / noodles / pasta, white bread, potatoes, and with every meal have some veggies, preferably green.



Junk the brown rice and bread

Eat white rice if needed or potatoes/ sweet potatoes

Re:
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_good_the_bad_and_the_assfattening_the_new_starchy_carb_food_pyramid

I'll pull studies if I have to



Something that doesn't include words like 'bro' would be nice.

His logic is that because carbs are only meant for glucose, you might was well go balls to the walls for glucose. Maybe this makes sense if you're trying to build muscle and need crazy amounts of energy, but considering this guy was going to go on an all vegetable diet, this may not be the best idea as I'd assume he was trying to lose fat.
Razith
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada431 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 21:43:03
June 15 2011 21:40 GMT
#7270
On June 16 2011 05:38 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 05:13 Necosarius wrote:
Wait, white rice is better than brown rice ? :o


Yes, because brown rice still has the bran/germ stuff like other grains do which may make you have digestive issues

Starch (rice, potatoes, etc.) is not a problem for those who do not have impaired glucose metabolism


What digestive issues?

I could easily say white rice causes your blood sugar to spike which increases your risk of diabetes. Anyone without an impaired digestive system won't have issues digesting brown rice.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
June 15 2011 21:47 GMT
#7271
On June 16 2011 06:20 Razith wrote:
Show nested quote +

This is sort of a bad idea. Just eat a lean meat with every meal, 1/3 of your meals have a starchy carb like brown rice or bread (preferably in the morning), try to stay away from things like white rice / noodles / pasta, white bread, potatoes, and with every meal have some veggies, preferably green.



Junk the brown rice and bread

Eat white rice if needed or potatoes/ sweet potatoes

Re:
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_good_the_bad_and_the_assfattening_the_new_starchy_carb_food_pyramid

I'll pull studies if I have to



Something that doesn't include words like 'bro' would be nice.

His logic is that because carbs are only meant for glucose, you might was well go balls to the walls for glucose. Maybe this makes sense if you're trying to build muscle and need crazy amounts of energy, but considering this guy was going to go on an all vegetable diet, this may not be the best idea as I'd assume he was trying to lose fat.


If you're losing fat you would just cut out rice all together
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 21:57:31
June 15 2011 21:57 GMT
#7272
On June 16 2011 06:20 Razith wrote:
Show nested quote +

This is sort of a bad idea. Just eat a lean meat with every meal, 1/3 of your meals have a starchy carb like brown rice or bread (preferably in the morning), try to stay away from things like white rice / noodles / pasta, white bread, potatoes, and with every meal have some veggies, preferably green.



Junk the brown rice and bread

Eat white rice if needed or potatoes/ sweet potatoes

Re:
http://www.t-nation.com/free_online_article/most_recent/the_good_the_bad_and_the_assfattening_the_new_starchy_carb_food_pyramid

I'll pull studies if I have to



Something that doesn't include words like 'bro' would be nice.

His logic is that because carbs are only meant for glucose, you might was well go balls to the walls for glucose. Maybe this makes sense if you're trying to build muscle and need crazy amounts of energy, but considering this guy was going to go on an all vegetable diet, this may not be the best idea as I'd assume he was trying to lose fat.


levistus ("the guy") didnt say he was going on an all vegetable diet - in fact, he asked what meat he should cook with his veggies in the post you quoted.

and as decaf said if you are trying to lose weight maybe its best to remove rice all together and go full paleo!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 22:16:52
June 15 2011 22:05 GMT
#7273
man im shattered. would kill for some weed

2 videos of me, 4mb

one is my new squat ability after trying to figure out my flexibility for ages.
its with better foot positioning, with shoes on, and without standing on wedge.
if you saw my video 2 days ago you can see what a rediculous improvement - 2 days ago doing the same thing i could only go down like half a foot and get stuck.
this is thanks to that squatting video someone posted (you know who you are <3 ) which showed the guy squatting (no bar) on the ground with flat feet pointed forwards like an indian.

2nd video is a deadlift formcheck. im new to deadlifts. on later sets i done a bit better i think.
iirc the weight here is stood upon 2 weights to raise it higher (no platforms in my gym).
you can see me struggle to get a flat back but it felt alright-ish to me.
its 60kg so 2x 20kg plates plus 2 sidewards plates high (im 187/6'2'')

note for the squat video "im just getting started" so as my flexiblity gets better i will be shaping up the rest of the form. you've never seen a guy sweat so much hahaha
edit: also i will be trying to get lower than that

http://www.zshare.net/download/91490767f4b5cae2/
http://www.zshare.net/download/914909521b39d404/

alternative links (same vids):
http://www.2shared.com/video/VuW4JWQi/VID_20110615_131013.html
http://www.2shared.com/video/Nc_toGrd/VID_20110615_133908.html


TIME FOR SOME BEEF
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Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
June 15 2011 22:42 GMT
#7274
Did half an hour of Power Snatches / Snatches, mostly triples with bar only, 25kg and 30kg. I can already understand how awesome it must feel to throw some real weights over your head. I did 30kg and felt like a boss.

But yeah, since I did heavy Deadlifts yesterday, my lower back is not amused. I have to plan that a little better.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
dpurple
Profile Joined November 2010
Turkmenistan592 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 23:04:59
June 15 2011 22:54 GMT
#7275
On June 16 2011 07:05 FFGenerations wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
man im shattered. would kill for some weed

2 videos of me, 4mb

one is my new squat ability after trying to figure out my flexibility for ages.
its with better foot positioning, with shoes on, and without standing on wedge.
if you saw my video 2 days ago you can see what a rediculous improvement - 2 days ago doing the same thing i could only go down like half a foot and get stuck.
this is thanks to that squatting video someone posted (you know who you are <3 ) which showed the guy squatting (no bar) on the ground with flat feet pointed forwards like an indian.

2nd video is a deadlift formcheck. im new to deadlifts. on later sets i done a bit better i think.
iirc the weight here is stood upon 2 weights to raise it higher (no platforms in my gym).
you can see me struggle to get a flat back but it felt alright-ish to me.
its 60kg so 2x 20kg plates plus 2 sidewards plates high (im 187/6'2'')

note for the squat video "im just getting started" so as my flexiblity gets better i will be shaping up the rest of the form. you've never seen a guy sweat so much hahaha
edit: also i will be trying to get lower than that

http://www.zshare.net/download/91490767f4b5cae2/
http://www.zshare.net/download/914909521b39d404/

alternative links (same vids):
http://www.2shared.com/video/VuW4JWQi/VID_20110615_131013.html
http://www.2shared.com/video/Nc_toGrd/VID_20110615_133908.html


TIME FOR SOME BEEF


You definately need to correct that squat form before the weights start going up. You'll break your back like that. The pelvis is kinda "tipping over" at the bottom of the squat. Especially on the last 3 deep squats it looked really bad. You should go only as deep as your mobility allows.

Are your feet pointing straight forward? You need lots of flexibility to be able to do that. Especially with long legs. Better have them pointing outwards at an angle

For stretch I used to do one where I lie down flat on my back on the floor and pull my knees to my chest. Or more like knees to the armpits, since you should keep the knees out when you squat anyway. This will kinda simulate a rock bottom squat. Now this will naturally make your ass lift from the floor. Now try to arch your back as hard as you can while holding your knees in position. This will stretch all the muscles that are too tight in the bottom squat position. Once you can do this and get the ass down to the floor you will never have that problem of the lower back getting round at the bottom. (Well it can still happen ofcourse but then its cos of loosing tension in the stomach and not from flexibility issues)

Also I like this series, especially look at the first video at the 1 minute mark. Correcting the form from the bottom seem to me much easier than starting from the top. You seem to have some balance issues as well so you could give that a try

Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4732 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 23:06:23
June 15 2011 23:02 GMT
#7276
On June 16 2011 07:05 FFGenerations wrote:
man im shattered. would kill for some weed

2 videos of me, 4mb

one is my new squat ability after trying to figure out my flexibility for ages.
its with better foot positioning, with shoes on, and without standing on wedge.
if you saw my video 2 days ago you can see what a rediculous improvement - 2 days ago doing the same thing i could only go down like half a foot and get stuck.
this is thanks to that squatting video someone posted (you know who you are <3 ) which showed the guy squatting (no bar) on the ground with flat feet pointed forwards like an indian.

2nd video is a deadlift formcheck. im new to deadlifts. on later sets i done a bit better i think.
iirc the weight here is stood upon 2 weights to raise it higher (no platforms in my gym).
you can see me struggle to get a flat back but it felt alright-ish to me.
its 60kg so 2x 20kg plates plus 2 sidewards plates high (im 187/6'2'')

note for the squat video "im just getting started" so as my flexiblity gets better i will be shaping up the rest of the form. you've never seen a guy sweat so much hahaha
edit: also i will be trying to get lower than that

http://www.zshare.net/download/91490767f4b5cae2/
http://www.zshare.net/download/914909521b39d404/

alternative links (same vids):
http://www.2shared.com/video/VuW4JWQi/VID_20110615_131013.html
http://www.2shared.com/video/Nc_toGrd/VID_20110615_133908.html


TIME FOR SOME BEEF


Deadlift: Back was a little bit rounded, but nothing major. I think you can easily fix that with a little bit of practice.

Squat: Looks much better already. For some reps at the bottom of the movement it looked like you had a tendency to lean forward too much (weight not on your heels probably?) and that your upper back rounded a little bit as a result of that. But I am not 100% sure. Anyway pay attention to always have the weight on your heels, it's still my most common mistake when I squat and hard to get rid of at higher weights.

edit: apparently dpurple is way more strict with your form than I am, but I basically mean the same part of the movement as he does. So there is probably something to fix.
"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
xJupiter9x
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States150 Posts
June 15 2011 23:16 GMT
#7277
Day 2 of smolov this week. Pretty easy, only had 3 reps at 260. Nothing to a boss. But next week the fun really begins.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-16 00:02:11
June 15 2011 23:19 GMT
#7278
I remember deadlifting being harder :-p



Had to reaffirm my deadlifting skills with malinor and sjarl going beast mode on me (i'm sure one of them will beat me soon enough). Havent deadlifted since November, strictly olympic lifting.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
June 15 2011 23:59 GMT
#7279
After doing all the research on TL and reading about nutrition, it's really painful for me when I saw someone post this on facebook:

"Food is not important. How much you eat is important. You can work on food after you lose weight. The body will not differentiate between burning "bad calories" and burning "good calories." A calorie is a calorie. What happens is the body uses different energy pathways, but that is not important for me to explain, and you have enough to digest."

Anyone have a good scientific article I can link before he does too much damage?
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20078 Posts
June 16 2011 00:03 GMT
#7280
On June 16 2011 08:59 shinosai wrote:
After doing all the research on TL and reading about nutrition, it's really painful for me when I saw someone post this on facebook:

"Food is not important. How much you eat is important. You can work on food after you lose weight. The body will not differentiate between burning "bad calories" and burning "good calories." A calorie is a calorie. What happens is the body uses different energy pathways, but that is not important for me to explain, and you have enough to digest."

Anyone have a good scientific article I can link before he does too much damage?


Use your fist as a good article for this blithering idiot T_T How can you honestly think a 500 calories of high fructose corn syrup is the same as 500 calories of grass fed beef? dear lord what is this world coming to.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
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