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eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
June 15 2011 01:54 GMT
#7221
On June 15 2011 07:27 dudeman001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 07:23 Malinor wrote:
I don't take any supplements, only a magnesium tablet from time to time. I've always had problems with cramps in my legs, (especially cramps in the calf while I'm sleeping, big fun) and magnesium makes that go away for me. Though by now I definetely found a correlation between the quality of my diet and the occurence of the cramps, the body is still the best warning system out there.

I tried to take fish oil for a while last year, but sometimes my breath did smell so terrible (plus horrible taste in my mouth while burping) that I stopped.

Shouldn't you be eating more potassium, not magnesium, to help muscle cramps? I've managed to keep eating a banana every few days and those consistent night calf cramps I used to get haven't been around in over a year.


No, magnesium is a more potent muscle relaxant.

More people are deficient in magnesium than potassium anyway
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 01:56:46
June 15 2011 01:55 GMT
#7222
On June 15 2011 06:54 MajinMojo wrote:
@eshlow since you are here :D Or anyone else who knows about supplements and stuff.

I've never been one to take many supplements. Not for any specific reason other than that there's just a ton of information out there that I have not really had the chance to educate myself on. And either way I'd tend to stay away from complicated things. Also a lot of the stuff can get pricey.

BUT, my brother gave me a container of this. http://www.a1supplements.com/Iso-Mass-Xtreme-Gainer-10-Lbs.-p-17009.html saying that this is what he takes. Usually at a "dosage" of 1 or 2 scoops a day instead of the package recommended 3 scoops = 1 serving. Anyway, knowing next to nothing about supplements I am naturally skeptical. And would like to understand pros and cons of this product.

Honestly, as far as my knowledge goes it seems to have a lot of perceived "good" things in it. (fish oils, BCAA compounds, whatever other words I've heard associated with proper supplement intake) The packaging seems to represent all these beneficial ingredients well as a blend. However, I get the feeling that there's some sort of stigma attached to some of these products.

I guess I really have a few questions. Aside from the fact of whether or not these product blends are necessary at all; what are the pros (if any) and cons? Is this an effective way to get certain supplements? Are any products of this nature even good at all? Or is it safer/more worthwhile to just take supplements on an individual basis, like a fish oil pill, or BCAA, B vitamin compound whatever.

I would like to try and educate my brother about it if I knew how. He's one who tries every new damned thing on the market while I'm one to be distrustful of everything and therefor shun it. Or at least be wary of it until I've studied it.


It's basically expensive calories. Sugars, proteins, and added vitamins (which don't absorb as well anyway). If you want something specific you should just buy it (fish oil, BCAAs, whatever).

I'd say just hop up on the real food... buy more steaks, milk, etc.
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 02:57:38
June 15 2011 02:55 GMT
#7223
On June 15 2011 10:55 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 06:54 MajinMojo wrote:
@eshlow since you are here :D Or anyone else who knows about supplements and stuff.

I've never been one to take many supplements. Not for any specific reason other than that there's just a ton of information out there that I have not really had the chance to educate myself on. And either way I'd tend to stay away from complicated things. Also a lot of the stuff can get pricey.

BUT, my brother gave me a container of this. http://www.a1supplements.com/Iso-Mass-Xtreme-Gainer-10-Lbs.-p-17009.html saying that this is what he takes. Usually at a "dosage" of 1 or 2 scoops a day instead of the package recommended 3 scoops = 1 serving. Anyway, knowing next to nothing about supplements I am naturally skeptical. And would like to understand pros and cons of this product.

Honestly, as far as my knowledge goes it seems to have a lot of perceived "good" things in it. (fish oils, BCAA compounds, whatever other words I've heard associated with proper supplement intake) The packaging seems to represent all these beneficial ingredients well as a blend. However, I get the feeling that there's some sort of stigma attached to some of these products.

I guess I really have a few questions. Aside from the fact of whether or not these product blends are necessary at all; what are the pros (if any) and cons? Is this an effective way to get certain supplements? Are any products of this nature even good at all? Or is it safer/more worthwhile to just take supplements on an individual basis, like a fish oil pill, or BCAA, B vitamin compound whatever.

I would like to try and educate my brother about it if I knew how. He's one who tries every new damned thing on the market while I'm one to be distrustful of everything and therefor shun it. Or at least be wary of it until I've studied it.


It's basically expensive calories. Sugars, proteins, and added vitamins (which don't absorb as well anyway). If you want something specific you should just buy it (fish oil, BCAAs, whatever).

I'd say just hop up on the real food... buy more steaks, milk, etc.


Yeah, that pretty much sums up how I look at stuff like this. Seems kinda like every brand has a very specific blend of whatever when in reality nothing works for everybody. Just too complicated for minimal gains it seems.

And damn despite a huge amount of soreness I actually decided I should get off my ass and lift today. So I started late as hell. Left glute had been bothering me a few workouts ago which caused some random balance issues in my squat. Which in turn made both my quads and pretty much my entire left leg and left obliques pretty darn sore. Very difficult to get full ROM in a squat but I managed.

Squat 225 x 3; 205 x 5-5-5-5-5
Bench 135 x 5-5-5
DL 245 x 7

I tried to see how it felt to squat heavy at it felt like my left leg wouldn't be able to handle 3x5 so I dialed the weight down to 205 and pumped out 5x5 to work on form. Felt good that I actually did 5x5. Lotta squats but honestly I had no trouble till maybe the last set when I could really start to feel it in my left leg. Last 2 reps I did this weird thing where my ass swung out towards my right (stronger) side and I basically squatted most of the weight with my right leg. How I managed not to dump the weight I have no idea.

Still working myself up from a deadlift deload so those felt really good. Pulled pretty easy and without chalk or anything due to the weather being so "sticky".

Bench; still awful. Might invest in micro plates if I can find any at a local shitty sports store. At least then I'll be able to add +2.5 every workout instead of fucking up with +5s every time I increase.
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
June 15 2011 03:01 GMT
#7224
On June 15 2011 03:16 forgotten0ne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 20:55 Ludrik wrote:
On June 12 2011 20:44 Snapplecakes wrote:
on a workout related note! nailed 4-4-4 chinups and +10kg weighted dips today :D quite good id say concidering the fact that i weigh 92kg!

Race to 8-8-8 chinups?. I'm currently at 4-3-3, although a fair bit lighter than you at 75kgs.


I don't know if you're still racing, but 3 months ago, I was 3-2-2, now I'm 10-8-6

Yeah I'm still racing. It's only been 3 days since that post. Good to hear you've made some progress. I'm hoping for some quicker gains. My current aim is to have 8-8-8 by the 9th of July.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
NeverGG *
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom5399 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 03:10:01
June 15 2011 03:09 GMT
#7225
Another random post, but I'm getting really sick (literally) of feeling like this (It's been going on since Uni, but only on and off.) so;

I tend to feel really nauseous in the mornings, in periods between meals (even if I snack) and if I stay up later than my normal sleeping pattern (I go to bed at 11pm since my body clock makes me start feeling sleepy then.)

I noticed that my morning and night time nausea was greatly reduced when I was eating the following diet;

+ 3 meals a day.
+ Focusing on steamed vegetables, tofu and restricted dressings/condiments.
+ At least two liters of water a day.
+ No food after 7:30.

I've been off the wagon for a couple of months now, and my diet looks more like this; (I also gained 9kg -_-; )

+ Junk food every day. Lots of simple carbs and dairy.
+ 2 meals a day.
+ Snacking a lot during the day.
+ A heavy dinner.
+ Water (when I remember it.) but mostly soda.

I'm trying to give myself a kick up the bum to get back into my good habits, and lose the weight. However, does anyone have any suggestions for coping with this constant nausea during the process of converting back to a healthier diet? (And also any ideas as to the causes.)
우리 행운의 모양은 여러개지만 행복의 모양은 하나
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20164 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 03:38:08
June 15 2011 03:37 GMT
#7226
Im not sure about the nausea, but if a diet is making you want to throw up every morning i think that should be enough incentive to switch back to healthier food.

On June 15 2011 09:40 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 15 2011 06:34 MajinMojo wrote:
http://naturalbias.com/how-to-prepare-a-week-of-healthy-meals-in-just-an-hour/

For Levistus. Decent blog about preparing a week's work of healthy meals in 1 hour. I use a system kinda like this. Where I pick a day or two during the week and cook a bunch of shit and then just put it in the fridge so I can reheat it as necessary.



Nice link!!!




Also, I am not sure what I want to do in life. I have one semester left to go and I think I will try to concentrate on weightlifting. I am failing in getting internships so I think this is a better decision. :D My coach thinks I can break into the top 5 in the next year or two in my weight class.


Lets open up a gym, then you can work while you work out :D Pretty sweet though, i hope i have that kind of potential in a year or so.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Groko
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5 Posts
June 15 2011 04:15 GMT
#7227
Hello TL! I have been lurking on this forum since SC2 came out and I thought I would make my first post in this thread since summer is here.

some info about me

Age: 17 Height: 5'7'' Weight: about 145 lbs

Current numbers as of last workout on lifts

Squat: 230 lbs 3x5 (Its getting harder to add weight now)
Deadlift: 260 lbs 1x5
bench: 170 lbs 3x5 (Been stuck here for a while)
press: 100 lbs 3x5
clean:115 lbs 5x3(Thinking of dropping weight to work on form)

Hope the numbers dont drop because I wont be able to lift for about 2 weeks. After that my buddy and I are going to hit the gym for the rest of summer. My main goals right now are just to get stronger and add some weight on my body.

I have a question for you guys. What workout do you guys do after you are done with starting strength? It would be nice if it included snatches and cleans because I really want to learn how to do olympic lifts.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 15 2011 04:29 GMT
#7228
haha i would be down for opening a gym.


groko you can learn olympic lifts now if you want
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
RosaParksStoleMySeat
Profile Joined December 2009
Japan926 Posts
June 15 2011 04:46 GMT
#7229
On June 15 2011 12:09 NeverGG wrote:
Another random post, but I'm getting really sick (literally) of feeling like this (It's been going on since Uni, but only on and off.) so;

I tend to feel really nauseous in the mornings, in periods between meals (even if I snack) and if I stay up later than my normal sleeping pattern (I go to bed at 11pm since my body clock makes me start feeling sleepy then.)

I noticed that my morning and night time nausea was greatly reduced when I was eating the following diet;

+ 3 meals a day.
+ Focusing on steamed vegetables, tofu and restricted dressings/condiments.
+ At least two liters of water a day.
+ No food after 7:30.

I've been off the wagon for a couple of months now, and my diet looks more like this; (I also gained 9kg -_-; )

+ Junk food every day. Lots of simple carbs and dairy.
+ 2 meals a day.
+ Snacking a lot during the day.
+ A heavy dinner.
+ Water (when I remember it.) but mostly soda.

I'm trying to give myself a kick up the bum to get back into my good habits, and lose the weight. However, does anyone have any suggestions for coping with this constant nausea during the process of converting back to a healthier diet? (And also any ideas as to the causes.)


Looking up pictures of fat people helps me.
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
June 15 2011 07:48 GMT
#7230
Rawwwwwwrrrr bodyweight squat (75kg). The first set was tough. The second set was even tougher. Form started to fall apart in the third set so only completed 3 reps and dropped back to 70kg for another set. That's the hardest physical activity I've done in a couple of years.

Now I've just got to back it up on friday with a PR 95kg deadlift so I can go into my exam looking like this =>
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 08:26:47
June 15 2011 08:14 GMT
#7231
nevergg, try buying a ton of vitamin pills
magnesium, d, zinc, biotin, b, iron, multi
if anything, popping them all every mornin will inspire you to get back on track.

also plan out every day in advance (write it down), so you know what time you will be eating and what.
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 11:37:36
June 15 2011 11:26 GMT
#7232
deadlift: 177.5kgx5

next week: 4 plates (180kg, 2xbw)

yeeeeeah!

edit: stop posting so much guys :p cant keep up! just kidding: you are all awesome!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
June 15 2011 12:05 GMT
#7233
On June 15 2011 13:15 Groko wrote:
Hello TL! I have been lurking on this forum since SC2 came out and I thought I would make my first post in this thread since summer is here.

some info about me

Age: 17 Height: 5'7'' Weight: about 145 lbs

Current numbers as of last workout on lifts

Squat: 230 lbs 3x5 (Its getting harder to add weight now)
Deadlift: 260 lbs 1x5
bench: 170 lbs 3x5 (Been stuck here for a while)
press: 100 lbs 3x5
clean:115 lbs 5x3(Thinking of dropping weight to work on form)

Hope the numbers dont drop because I wont be able to lift for about 2 weeks. After that my buddy and I are going to hit the gym for the rest of summer. My main goals right now are just to get stronger and add some weight on my body.

I have a question for you guys. What workout do you guys do after you are done with starting strength? It would be nice if it included snatches and cleans because I really want to learn how to do olympic lifts.


pretty good numbers! as dimsum said, you can start doing oly lifts now if you want. check this site for a good program for beginners: http://www.pendlay.com/A-Training-System-for-Beginning-Olympic-Weightlifters_df_47.html

alternatively you can do the advanced novice program. check out this article: http://startingstrength.wikia.com/wiki/After_Starting_Strength

gl in your training and keep us updated!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
June 15 2011 13:13 GMT
#7234
sorry ihaven't been very active

my grandpa passed away on monday morning

shits hard.
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FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
June 15 2011 13:25 GMT
#7235
Holy shit todat was good. Got 2 vids to post if I can figure out how on phone. Didn't have time for curls sadlybut havnt missed the bus for work haha. Tipped water bottle over my head when I came out da gym.

Squat w bar then 30kg
Press warmup then 35kg x5, 30 x3 lolo
I think press needs like 5 min rest between them.
Dead 60 2x5, 65 2x5

Looks like a shitty session but I'm still buzzing abt my squat progress.
Cool BW Music Vid - youtube.com/watch?v=W54nlqJ-Nx8 ~~~~~ ᕤ OYSTERS ᕤ CLAMS ᕤ AND ᕤ CUCKOLDS ᕤ ~~~~~~ ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ PUNCH HIM ༼ ᕤ◕◡◕ ༽ᕤ
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
June 15 2011 13:31 GMT
#7236
On June 15 2011 22:13 funkie wrote:
sorry ihaven't been very active

my grandpa passed away on monday morning

shits hard.


my condolences
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
inimenesc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Estonia374 Posts
June 15 2011 14:02 GMT
#7237
Deadlifted 100kg/220pounds

First thing over my body weight
/feels strong/
Felt now how much i wanna bench press with that deadlift...god damn thats heavy!
"When game is going full retard, you can only go with it. If you start going against it, if you start going half retard, you´re fucking done for." -n0tail 2014
glurio
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany597 Posts
June 15 2011 14:15 GMT
#7238
On June 15 2011 12:09 NeverGG wrote:

I'm trying to give myself a kick up the bum to get back into my good habits, and lose the weight. However, does anyone have any suggestions for coping with this constant nausea during the process of converting back to a healthier diet? (And also any ideas as to the causes.)


Might be gastritis, i recommend seeing a doctor.
Whether you think you can, or think you can't, you're right. - Henry Ford
Levistus
Profile Joined December 2009
1134 Posts
June 15 2011 14:17 GMT
#7239
yo guys please add some vegetables on my list to cook together btw. i'll eat these together every meal. dunno if stir fry, steamed or raw yet cause i dunno which i can eat raw yet.
these i love:
chayotes
carrots
green beans
chinese cabbage

anything else you can suggest guys? so i have good nutrition. i think i lack some green leafy stuff.
thanks!

hey man just curious
Logros
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands9913 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 14:26:00
June 15 2011 14:24 GMT
#7240
I love broccoli and it's really easy to cook. Just cut it up and throw it in a pan with water, heat it and let is boil for like 5 mins.
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