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On June 03 2011 23:05 Ingenol wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 22:56 RosaParksStoleMySeat wrote:On June 03 2011 22:05 Malinor wrote:On June 03 2011 21:42 phyre112 wrote:
Crossfit isn't the worst thing you could do.
The guy's got his shit down when it comes to motivation and all that crap. He just unfortunately didn't have the knowledge at the time to apply it to maximum efficiency. Most people don't - can't hate on them for that.
The OP didn't bother me so much, was just a success-story, so why not, there is a lot of ways to achieve weight loss. But the thread itself is cringe-worthy. I'll just refer you to the advice from ShitMyDadSays: Everyone thinks their opinion matters. Don't argue with a nobody. A farmer doesn't bother telling a pig his breath smells like shit. I tried hard to help people before, but people who can be helped usually don't need to be helped because they listened before. Convincing somebody that their viewpoint is stupid is all in all pretty hopeless because if they were capable of thinking on our level, they wouldn't have been thinking on their level in the first place. Even worse, by attempting to argue with someone who doesn't listen to reason, you're actually allowing them to make you a victim of their own inability (you basically imply some value to their irrationally-formed opinions). This is why I would argue that we shouldn't be celebrating things like the ADA admitting red meat isn't bad for you--why should the government even be telling people what to eat in the first place?
I won't comment too much on the government telling people what to do note ... in my field (education, applied linguistics/language policy, second/foreign language pedagogy), the government and general public are stupid on levels that I wouldn't even be able to fathom had they not given me so many examples in the past, but I can't speak for other fields. They seem off on nutrition from the perspective I follow, but I'll give them points for recently adjusting the recommended sugar intake ... they still promote trash like soy and grains, though.
Anyway, there is just no winning in this case. A new vegan thread has popped up, and I know that posting there would simply be another waste of my time. Nobody would be convinced of anything and we'd all come out feeling like shittier individuals. I respect people's right to autonomous action and decision making, so I'll respect what they want to do with their own bodies.
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On June 03 2011 04:41 AssuredVacancy wrote:Hey guys, I made a website for strength evaluation / 5/3/1 routine generation and a simple progress tracker.. It's probably full of bugs right now but it'd be awesome if you guys try it out and gimme feed back on it. the website is: http://www.strstd.comthanks guys!
can you add SS or advanced novice stuff?
That'd be awesome!
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squat: 130kg 5-5-5
bench: 82.5kg 5-5-5
power clean: 82.5kg 3-3-3-3-3
very manly workout today: I ripped open my shins, bruised some bones while racking the bar and scared everyone by letting the bar drop instead of putting it down gently.
when I came home, my brother started shooting at me with his nerf gun! naturally I could not let that go unanswered, so we had a major firefight in our appartment ^^ awesome!
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On June 04 2011 01:11 Zafrumi wrote:
squat: 130kg 5-5-5
bench: 82.5kg 5-5-5
power clean: 82.5kg 3-3-3-3-3
very manly workout today: I ripped open my shins, bruised some bones while racking the bar and scared everyone by letting the bar drop instead of putting it down gently.
when I came home, my brother started shooting at me with his nerf gun! naturally I could not let that go unanswered, so we had a major firefight in our appartment ^^ awesome!
Just rip your shirt at the end of that session and let out a nice gorilla scream, piss against the squat rack to mark your territory and let weaker people clean it up. People need to know who the alpha male in the gym is.
Your PC-numbers look nice. Also, this is by far the best format to write sets and reps. All this 3x5 or 5x3 is just confusing as hell.
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Good stuff Zafrumi! I agree on the formatting thingy 
Need more food...and a new subforum lol
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On June 04 2011 01:33 Malinor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2011 01:11 Zafrumi wrote:
squat: 130kg 5-5-5
bench: 82.5kg 5-5-5
power clean: 82.5kg 3-3-3-3-3
very manly workout today: I ripped open my shins, bruised some bones while racking the bar and scared everyone by letting the bar drop instead of putting it down gently.
when I came home, my brother started shooting at me with his nerf gun! naturally I could not let that go unanswered, so we had a major firefight in our appartment ^^ awesome! Just rip your shirt at the end of that session and let out a nice gorilla scream, piss against the squat rack to mark your territory and let weaker people clean it up. People need to know who the alpha male in the gym is. Your PC-numbers look nice. Also, this is by far the best format to write sets and reps. All this 3x5 or 5x3 is just confusing as hell.
haha lol good idea
On June 04 2011 02:35 sJarl wrote:Good stuff Zafrumi! I agree on the formatting thingy Need more food...and a new subforum lol
I actually stole the format from haji hehe
there is a squat challenge in the Starting Strength fitocracy group (think its like "who gets the most squats until day x" or something). should be interesting
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Barbell rows just dont feel right, my back doesnt seem to be straight, but i cant get my lower back any more down. And with squats, i am quite tall 203cm. My legs start to hurt on top if i try to go lower than hips leveled with knees, is this problem of stretching and i should improve on that or hips on knees level is ok and i shouldnt be trying to go any lower.
Anyone?
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On June 04 2011 02:46 Zafrumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2011 01:33 Malinor wrote:On June 04 2011 01:11 Zafrumi wrote:
squat: 130kg 5-5-5
bench: 82.5kg 5-5-5
power clean: 82.5kg 3-3-3-3-3
very manly workout today: I ripped open my shins, bruised some bones while racking the bar and scared everyone by letting the bar drop instead of putting it down gently.
when I came home, my brother started shooting at me with his nerf gun! naturally I could not let that go unanswered, so we had a major firefight in our appartment ^^ awesome! Just rip your shirt at the end of that session and let out a nice gorilla scream, piss against the squat rack to mark your territory and let weaker people clean it up. People need to know who the alpha male in the gym is. Your PC-numbers look nice. Also, this is by far the best format to write sets and reps. All this 3x5 or 5x3 is just confusing as hell. haha lol good idea Show nested quote +On June 04 2011 02:35 sJarl wrote:Good stuff Zafrumi! I agree on the formatting thingy Need more food...and a new subforum lol I actually stole the format from haji hehe there is a squat challenge in the Starting Strength fitocracy group (think its like "who gets the most squats until day x" or something). should be interesting
Hmm sounds like fun. Although I'll prolly run Smolov after the meet. Squatting 4x week will be fun
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On June 04 2011 02:52 sJarl wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2011 02:46 Zafrumi wrote:On June 04 2011 01:33 Malinor wrote:On June 04 2011 01:11 Zafrumi wrote:
squat: 130kg 5-5-5
bench: 82.5kg 5-5-5
power clean: 82.5kg 3-3-3-3-3
very manly workout today: I ripped open my shins, bruised some bones while racking the bar and scared everyone by letting the bar drop instead of putting it down gently.
when I came home, my brother started shooting at me with his nerf gun! naturally I could not let that go unanswered, so we had a major firefight in our appartment ^^ awesome! Just rip your shirt at the end of that session and let out a nice gorilla scream, piss against the squat rack to mark your territory and let weaker people clean it up. People need to know who the alpha male in the gym is. Your PC-numbers look nice. Also, this is by far the best format to write sets and reps. All this 3x5 or 5x3 is just confusing as hell. haha lol good idea On June 04 2011 02:35 sJarl wrote:Good stuff Zafrumi! I agree on the formatting thingy Need more food...and a new subforum lol I actually stole the format from haji hehe there is a squat challenge in the Starting Strength fitocracy group (think its like "who gets the most squats until day x" or something). should be interesting Hmm sounds like fun. Although I'll prolly run Smolov after the meet. Squatting 4x week will be fun
googled Smolov and found this on stronglifts.com:
WARNING: Smolov is NOT a routine for the faint hearted. I must say that from all the training programs that I’ve done since I started lifting weights in 1999, none have been more challenging than Smolov. You will NOT enjoy the Squatting, you will not EVEN look forward to it, and you WILL want to skip workouts.
shit sounds brutal. have fun 
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On June 04 2011 02:51 inimenesc wrote:Show nested quote +
Barbell rows just dont feel right, my back doesnt seem to be straight, but i cant get my lower back any more down. And with squats, i am quite tall 203cm. My legs start to hurt on top if i try to go lower than hips leveled with knees, is this problem of stretching and i should improve on that or hips on knees level is ok and i shouldnt be trying to go any lower.
Anyone?
I would bet you have extremely tight hamstrings. Try stretching them and when doing rows tighten your core, especially your upper abdominals, to move your rib cage back and lengthen and support your lower back.
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On June 04 2011 02:51 inimenesc wrote:Show nested quote +
Barbell rows just dont feel right, my back doesnt seem to be straight, but i cant get my lower back any more down. And with squats, i am quite tall 203cm. My legs start to hurt on top if i try to go lower than hips leveled with knees, is this problem of stretching and i should improve on that or hips on knees level is ok and i shouldnt be trying to go any lower.
Anyone?
Hard to give advice without a video. Probably best to see if Eshlow has some advice here. But my 2 cents: The back parallel to the floor is the optimal case, but few can really do this and even fewer from the very beginning. Just go as deep as you can. With most lifts I have found that the necessary flexibility comes from just doing the lift. And feeling pain when you do have your body in an position which your body is not used to is pretty normal. You didn't specify what kind of pain you feel, but as long as it does not feel like you could injure yourself and it's just uncomfortable, go for it and see if the pain goes away after a couple of sessions when you are accustumed to the movement. Obviously, some additional stretching cannot hurt, but do it after the lift and not beforehand.
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Starting weights for SS: (64kg BW)
Squat: 45 kg
Bench: 35 kg
Deadlift: 50 kg
Press: 20 kg
Powerclean: 35 kg
Starting low on everything so I can improve my form before the weights get heavy.
Squats are uncomfortable since I have inflexible shoulders wich makes my grip wide and awkward.
Is there any stretch excercises to increasy flexibility and make it easier to use a low-bar position?
Powerclean form is all over the place since it was my first time doing it with a barbell. I'll try post videos later so you guys can help me.
Edit: Forgot to add that I dealyed my second workout with two days since I graduated (!) from High school (the Swedish equivalent) and I was too tired the day after since i was up for 24+ hours and slept 4-5 hours. So now I have all summer to get big and strong 
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On June 04 2011 03:27 Ohnoes92 wrote:
Squats are uncomfortable since I have inflexible shoulders wich makes my grip wide and awkward.
Is there any stretch excercises to increasy flexibility and make it easier to use a low-bar position?
yes. squat more
gl with your training. keep posting updates! gonna be interesting to see your beginner gains
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I would bet you have extremely tight hamstrings. Try stretching them and when doing rows tighten your core, especially your upper abdominals, to move your rib cage back and lengthen and support your lower back.
Let me get my dictionary...but will do that.
Hard to give advice without a video. Probably best to see if Eshlow has some advice here. But my 2 cents: The back parallel to the floor is the optimal case, but few can really do this and even fewer from the very beginning. Just go as deep as you can. With most lifts I have found that the necessary flexibility comes from just doing the lift. And feeling pain when you do have your body in an position which your body is not used to is pretty normal. You didn't specify what kind of pain you feel, but as long as it does not feel like you could injure yourself and it's just uncomfortable, go for it and see if the pain goes away after a couple of sessions when you are accustumed to the movement. Obviously, some additional stretching cannot hurt, but do it after the lift and not beforehand.
The pain is in the thighs, like the muscle just doesnt stretch more out.
..cant make any video or even photo...i am in the 19th century.
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Oh boy do I have something in store for y'all here soon... We better not get a forum until after Tuesday, or I'll be pissed.
Until then, I'ma just leave yall in the dark on how my bench max went.
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Eshlow, I would appreciate some quick advice
I hurt my shoulder while playing volleyball a few weeks ago, and the pain is still lingering. I "worked through the pain" for a few weeks, but since it is not going away, I made an appointment to see a doctor next Tuesday. A friend who is interested in PT said it sounded like it could be a shoulder impingement (sharp pain that quickly arises when shoulder is in certain positions)
I'd prefer not to skip a few workouts, is it okay to do exercises that don't induce any pain in the shoulder? Should I not work out at all?
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Height: 171cm
Previous weight (3 months ago): 150lbs
Weight: 140lbs, evident 6-pack loss, evident bicep shrink and evident stomach fat increase (cause: drugs and alcohol)
Goal: 145lbs, basically less fat and more muscle
Method:
5KM run / 2 KM swim on alternate days, gym session every 2-3 days doing some bench presses, bicep curls, lat. pulldowns, and weight/inclined sit-ups.
Diet:
Here's my problem. I'm a student with a tight budget, so I grab whatever is the cheapest from the supermarket, meaning my meals are mostly perogies, burgers, and fatty meats on sale. I eat almost zero vegies or fruits (too expensive, and I hate them anyway), but I do consult a dietitian who gives me a list of supplement pills that I take daily. I also have some whey protein left from previous bulking sessions.
Any advice for me TL fitness gurus? Mainly trying to gain back muscle mass and lose stomach fat in time for the beach, I've never had success trying to gain muscle AND lose fat; it's always one or the other.
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On June 04 2011 04:24 Ravencruiser wrote:
Height: 171cm
Previous weight (3 months ago): 150lbs
Weight: 140lbs, evident 6-pack loss, evident bicep shrink and evident stomach fat increase (cause: drugs and alcohol)
Goal: 145lbs, basically less fat and more muscle
Method:
5KM run / 2 KM swim on alternate days, gym session every 2-3 days doing some bench presses, bicep curls, lat. pulldowns, and weight/inclined sit-ups.
Diet:
Here's my problem. I'm a student with a tight budget, so I grab whatever is the cheapest from the supermarket, meaning my meals are mostly perogies, burgers, and fatty meats on sale. I eat almost zero vegies or fruits (too expensive, and I hate them anyway), but I do consult a dietitian who gives me a list of supplement pills that I take daily. I also have some whey protein left from previous bulking sessions.
Any advice for me TL fitness gurus? Mainly trying to gain back muscle mass and lose stomach fat in time for the beach, I've never had success trying to gain muscle AND lose fat; it's always one or the other.
1. do starting strength (see OP)
2. throw away those supplement pills and use the money to buy real food
3. ???
4. Profit
seriously though, are the pills for free? if not, just buy some beef, veggies and milk in bulk instead. animal fat is not bad for you. processed foods are.
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Any tips on what to eat for breakfast, since I dont like eating the horrible bread my mum insists on buying and eggs is really the only option i know.
Does anyone else have a problem with eating enough for breakfast? Im really not hungry until around 12 am - 1 pm, what can I do to make myself eat more for breakfast?
I think half or sometimes even more of the calories I eat every day come from my dinner or after dinner, is this a problem and should I try eat more for breakfast/lunch even if im not that hungry then?
Btw my mum bought 8 litres of milk today and complained about that we have suddenly started drinking a lot more (me ), and me and my brother proceeded to drink 5 of the eight litres today, I'll probably help her carry some the next time she goes shopping for groceries.
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On June 04 2011 04:06 inimenesc wrote:Show nested quote +I would bet you have extremely tight hamstrings. Try stretching them and when doing rows tighten your core, especially your upper abdominals, to move your rib cage back and lengthen and support your lower back. Let me get my dictionary...but will do that. Show nested quote +
Hard to give advice without a video. Probably best to see if Eshlow has some advice here. But my 2 cents: The back parallel to the floor is the optimal case, but few can really do this and even fewer from the very beginning. Just go as deep as you can. With most lifts I have found that the necessary flexibility comes from just doing the lift. And feeling pain when you do have your body in an position which your body is not used to is pretty normal. You didn't specify what kind of pain you feel, but as long as it does not feel like you could injure yourself and it's just uncomfortable, go for it and see if the pain goes away after a couple of sessions when you are accustumed to the movement. Obviously, some additional stretching cannot hurt, but do it after the lift and not beforehand.
The pain is in the thighs, like the muscle just doesnt stretch more out. ..cant make any video or even photo...i am in the 19th century.
Are you stretching whenever you work out? Is it more along the front of your legs or the back? http://www.seriousrunning.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/thigh-stretch.jpg and http://www.youngwomenshealth.org/fitness/photos/inner_thigh_str_frt.jpg may help if your muscles are just too tight.
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