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shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
June 03 2011 23:31 GMT
#6581
Day 3 of weight training went well. Couple things. When doing bench press I sometimes have trouble keeping the bar balanced. I keep it very well centered but I think one of my arms is just stronger than the other. Also when I do the bench my arms tend to shake; I don't think I'm maxing out but this is normal yes?

Squats: Amg those power cleans must have powered up my legs because I destroyed squats today. It felt so much easier despite increasing the weight. Made serious progress on my form. Power cleans = awesome.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 03 2011 23:35 GMT
#6582
On June 04 2011 08:31 shinosai wrote:
Day 3 of weight training went well. Couple things. When doing bench press I sometimes have trouble keeping the bar balanced. I keep it very well centered but I think one of my arms is just stronger than the other. Also when I do the bench my arms tend to shake; I don't think I'm maxing out but this is normal yes?


Make sure that your entire body is tight when you bench. Your lats do a lot of stabilization work while you're benching, so you want your core flexed and tight while you do the movement.

It is entirely possible that one of your arms is stronger, but if you make sure that your form is tight then you'll definitely see more progress.



Give 'er a watch, helped me out a lot, with regards to the mindset required while benching.

ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 23:54:20
June 03 2011 23:50 GMT
#6583
On June 04 2011 08:35 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 08:31 shinosai wrote:
Day 3 of weight training went well. Couple things. When doing bench press I sometimes have trouble keeping the bar balanced. I keep it very well centered but I think one of my arms is just stronger than the other. Also when I do the bench my arms tend to shake; I don't think I'm maxing out but this is normal yes?


Make sure that your entire body is tight when you bench. Your lats do a lot of stabilization work while you're benching, so you want your core flexed and tight while you do the movement.




Hmm, thanks. I haven't really been focusing on tightening my body. That I think will help keep the bar more stable. Is this a good idea for the other exercises as well, like squat, power clean, etc? So far I've just been going through the proper motions but I haven't paid as much attention to tightening, didn't realize this was important.

I have a feeling this particular thing will really increase my performance. Will update on monday.
Be versatile, know when to retreat, and carry a big gun.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
June 04 2011 00:12 GMT
#6584
dear tlhf,
thank you. will post vids when I get home
-beast mode decaf
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 04 2011 00:18 GMT
#6585
On June 04 2011 08:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 08:14 AoN.DimSum wrote:
On June 04 2011 07:45 Ravencruiser wrote:
On June 04 2011 04:47 Zafrumi wrote:
1. do starting strength (see OP)
2. throw away those supplement pills and use the money to buy real food
3. ???
4. Profit

seriously though, are the pills for free? if not, just buy some beef, veggies and milk in bulk instead. animal fat is not bad for you. processed foods are.


The pills are free off parents' insurance, that's why I take them. I realize processed foods are bad for me, but I cannot afford "real" food per say. I'm reduced to buying meat only when on sale and eating mostly soup/bread/instant noodles/etc. everyday. I'm not exaggerating at all when I say my food budget everyday is probably in the $2-4 range.

On June 04 2011 05:46 Cambium wrote:
Are you honestly looking for advice or are you simply seeking approvals for your method?

The best program for your goals is starting strength. You will gain muscles and lose fat in the beginning because, presumably, you've never done it before.

If you are inherently against doing SS (who knows, some people hate learning new exercises like squats), your "method" will probably "work". I've done something similar before (i.e. lots of cardio mixed with upper-body strength training), and it wasn't effective at all.

Yea, it's annoying when ten people just reply "SS", but it's honestly the best program for most people. If you have something else in mind, it'll probably work, just not as effectively. You need perseverance regardless which method you choose.


A bit of both I would say. I am hesitant to do any lower body work such as squats because I'm 20 and still getting a late growth spur in height, and being only 171cm I want every extra cm possible.

Genetics and whatnot aside (both of my parents are tall... dad is 184cm, mom is 173cm), I was pretty tall until around 13 when my height growth slowed to a crawl. I ran everyday and played soccer everyday, so my legs to this day are enormously ripped (like, I don't know anyone with bigger calf muscles than me... lol) compared to my upper body. I attribute my stunted growth at least partially to my soccer days (measured my heel to hip to height ratio, and my legs are pretty short -_-).

I'm not averse to learning new exercises at all, if you have some other suggestions that won't put too much strain on my legs I'd greatly appreciate it.



u cant be serious, you blame soccer for your lack of height? you should blame your diet instead.


Being tall doesn't matter anyways. I'd rather be ripped. It's hard to look jacked when you're tall.

Also, it makes it easier to throw around heavier weights doing movements such as squats/deadlifts when your range of motion is shorter. I have long arms and it seems like it hinders my bench. That's my excuse, anyways.

Disregard height, acquire swole.


yeah i know but its ridiculous to think exercise will make you short. I just think its annoying when people attribute squatting or exercise to lack of height. Its not like playing basketball makes you taller...
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 04 2011 00:21 GMT
#6586
On June 04 2011 09:18 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 08:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On June 04 2011 08:14 AoN.DimSum wrote:
On June 04 2011 07:45 Ravencruiser wrote:
On June 04 2011 04:47 Zafrumi wrote:
1. do starting strength (see OP)
2. throw away those supplement pills and use the money to buy real food
3. ???
4. Profit

seriously though, are the pills for free? if not, just buy some beef, veggies and milk in bulk instead. animal fat is not bad for you. processed foods are.


The pills are free off parents' insurance, that's why I take them. I realize processed foods are bad for me, but I cannot afford "real" food per say. I'm reduced to buying meat only when on sale and eating mostly soup/bread/instant noodles/etc. everyday. I'm not exaggerating at all when I say my food budget everyday is probably in the $2-4 range.

On June 04 2011 05:46 Cambium wrote:
Are you honestly looking for advice or are you simply seeking approvals for your method?

The best program for your goals is starting strength. You will gain muscles and lose fat in the beginning because, presumably, you've never done it before.

If you are inherently against doing SS (who knows, some people hate learning new exercises like squats), your "method" will probably "work". I've done something similar before (i.e. lots of cardio mixed with upper-body strength training), and it wasn't effective at all.

Yea, it's annoying when ten people just reply "SS", but it's honestly the best program for most people. If you have something else in mind, it'll probably work, just not as effectively. You need perseverance regardless which method you choose.


A bit of both I would say. I am hesitant to do any lower body work such as squats because I'm 20 and still getting a late growth spur in height, and being only 171cm I want every extra cm possible.

Genetics and whatnot aside (both of my parents are tall... dad is 184cm, mom is 173cm), I was pretty tall until around 13 when my height growth slowed to a crawl. I ran everyday and played soccer everyday, so my legs to this day are enormously ripped (like, I don't know anyone with bigger calf muscles than me... lol) compared to my upper body. I attribute my stunted growth at least partially to my soccer days (measured my heel to hip to height ratio, and my legs are pretty short -_-).

I'm not averse to learning new exercises at all, if you have some other suggestions that won't put too much strain on my legs I'd greatly appreciate it.



u cant be serious, you blame soccer for your lack of height? you should blame your diet instead.


Being tall doesn't matter anyways. I'd rather be ripped. It's hard to look jacked when you're tall.

Also, it makes it easier to throw around heavier weights doing movements such as squats/deadlifts when your range of motion is shorter. I have long arms and it seems like it hinders my bench. That's my excuse, anyways.

Disregard height, acquire swole.


yeah i know but its ridiculous to think exercise will make you short. I just think its annoying when people attribute squatting or exercise to lack of height. Its not like playing basketball makes you taller...

Oh no, I agree completely, maybe quoting you was a mistake as I was really addressing the post you'd replied to :p
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 04 2011 00:24 GMT
#6587
On June 04 2011 08:50 shinosai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 08:35 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
On June 04 2011 08:31 shinosai wrote:
Day 3 of weight training went well. Couple things. When doing bench press I sometimes have trouble keeping the bar balanced. I keep it very well centered but I think one of my arms is just stronger than the other. Also when I do the bench my arms tend to shake; I don't think I'm maxing out but this is normal yes?


Make sure that your entire body is tight when you bench. Your lats do a lot of stabilization work while you're benching, so you want your core flexed and tight while you do the movement.




Hmm, thanks. I haven't really been focusing on tightening my body. That I think will help keep the bar more stable. Is this a good idea for the other exercises as well, like squat, power clean, etc? So far I've just been going through the proper motions but I haven't paid as much attention to tightening, didn't realize this was important.

I have a feeling this particular thing will really increase my performance. Will update on monday.


Definitely, any large compound movement will benefit from a tight core. The downwards portion of a squat is a controlled movement, driven by the hips; lots of people just let gravity take them down and only start the muscle activation on the way back up, which is incorrect. For cleans, I find that keeping my body tight (except for your arms, which don't do anything besides hold onto the bar) helps with the explosive thrust after the initial pulls.

Really keep a deliberate focus on your body during these movements, it'll work wonders
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 02:41:26
June 04 2011 02:15 GMT
#6588
Haven't touched a weight in a week. Here's todays snatch workout:


And just the last lift:


and the thoughts that were going through my head
+ Show Spoiler +
HOLY SHIT HAVENT MISSED ALL THE WAY UP TO 115 FUCK YEAH GOING FOR 120 DONT STOP DONT STOP DONT STOP HOLY FUCKING SHIT I JUST HIT A 10KG PR YEAAAAAAH. p.s. thats my beautiful 2011 mustang in the window ^_^ /brag


edit: just realized that if i combine this with my 145 cj i'm only 4 kg away from qualifying for the american open @ 94kg T_T
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
June 04 2011 02:31 GMT
#6589
Already commented on the second one, nice lift, makin' it look tooooooooooooo easy
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 02:51:05
June 04 2011 02:50 GMT
#6590
On June 04 2011 07:45 Ravencruiser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 04:47 Zafrumi wrote:
1. do starting strength (see OP)
2. throw away those supplement pills and use the money to buy real food
3. ???
4. Profit

seriously though, are the pills for free? if not, just buy some beef, veggies and milk in bulk instead. animal fat is not bad for you. processed foods are.


The pills are free off parents' insurance, that's why I take them. I realize processed foods are bad for me, but I cannot afford "real" food per say. I'm reduced to buying meat only when on sale and eating mostly soup/bread/instant noodles/etc. everyday. I'm not exaggerating at all when I say my food budget everyday is probably in the $2-4 range.

Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 05:46 Cambium wrote:
Are you honestly looking for advice or are you simply seeking approvals for your method?

The best program for your goals is starting strength. You will gain muscles and lose fat in the beginning because, presumably, you've never done it before.

If you are inherently against doing SS (who knows, some people hate learning new exercises like squats), your "method" will probably "work". I've done something similar before (i.e. lots of cardio mixed with upper-body strength training), and it wasn't effective at all.

Yea, it's annoying when ten people just reply "SS", but it's honestly the best program for most people. If you have something else in mind, it'll probably work, just not as effectively. You need perseverance regardless which method you choose.


A bit of both I would say. I am hesitant to do any lower body work such as squats because I'm 20 and still getting a late growth spur in height, and being only 171cm I want every extra cm possible.

Genetics and whatnot aside (both of my parents are tall... dad is 184cm, mom is 173cm), I was pretty tall until around 13 when my height growth slowed to a crawl. I ran everyday and played soccer everyday, so my legs to this day are enormously ripped (like, I don't know anyone with bigger calf muscles than me... lol) compared to my upper body. I attribute my stunted growth at least partially to my soccer days (measured my heel to hip to height ratio, and my legs are pretty short -_-).

I'm not averse to learning new exercises at all, if you have some other suggestions that won't put too much strain on my legs I'd greatly appreciate it.


It's very doubtful playing sports affected your growth at all. Probably helped if anything. I've been playing a variety of sports all my life and started squatting when i was 13 and i'm 185cm (i'm also 20).
As stated, i would recommend SS. DO YOUR SQUATS -> MOST IMPORTANT LIFT EVER. You'll lose fat and gain muscle. It will make your life better.

As for living off 5$ a day...thats enough to buy a pound of beef, chicken, or pork and a gallon of whole milk (at least where i live, idk about canada). Thats an easy 3-4k calories. Stay away from processed food.


how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 02:58:05
June 04 2011 02:50 GMT
#6591
On June 04 2011 11:15 decafchicken wrote:
Haven't touched a weight in a week. Here's todays snatch workout:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsLaEyxyKMM

And just the last lift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-f2subpRSE

and the thoughts that were going through my head
+ Show Spoiler +
HOLY SHIT HAVENT MISSED ALL THE WAY UP TO 115 FUCK YEAH GOING FOR 120 DONT STOP DONT STOP DONT STOP HOLY FUCKING SHIT I JUST HIT A 10KG PR YEAAAAAAH. p.s. thats my beautiful 2011 mustang in the window ^_^ /brag


edit: just realized that if i combine this with my 145 cj i'm only 4 kg away from qualifying for the american open @ 94kg T_T



wow nice!!! your snatch looks much more fluid!

It looks like your back angle changed from the lighter weights until the heavier ones. Did you feel a difference? Also try not to rush the recovery, stabilize at the bottom first. You're not going to get pinned.

Anyways thats a sweet looking gym!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
phyre112
Profile Joined August 2009
United States3090 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 03:08:35
June 04 2011 03:06 GMT
#6592
On June 04 2011 07:37 FFGenerations wrote:
necro this is my shopping list

3x mince beef large
6x tinned peas
6x tinned carrot
6x tinned potato
4x cheapest tomato pasta sauce
4x large milk
Mushrooms and peppers if u can afford them

I just found out there's an oat version of weatabix so will get shitloads of that


My typical shopping list:

3 dozen eggs
2 gallons milk
4 bags Microwave-steamable broccoli
12-16oz baby carrots
1 pound hamburger (~90% lean)
2 pounds chicken breast, or just a whole chicken which I cut up myself (saves ~2 bucks)
2 pounds bacon
6 10 oz cans Tuna Fish
Salad Dressing (bleu cheese for carrots, italian to marinate the chicken <3)
Honey
Green Tea

Tada! I eat for maybe 40 bucks a week, not counting milk. My milk intake varies hugely from day to day.

On June 04 2011 07:45 Ravencruiser wrote:
A bit of both I would say. I am hesitant to do any lower body work such as squats because I'm 20 and still getting a late growth spur in height, and being only 171cm I want every extra cm possible.

Genetics and whatnot aside (both of my parents are tall... dad is 184cm, mom is 173cm), I was pretty tall until around 13 when my height growth slowed to a crawl. I ran everyday and played soccer everyday, so my legs to this day are enormously ripped (like, I don't know anyone with bigger calf muscles than me... lol) compared to my upper body. I attribute my stunted growth at least partially to my soccer days (measured my heel to hip to height ratio, and my legs are pretty short -_-).

I'm not averse to learning new exercises at all, if you have some other suggestions that won't put too much strain on my legs I'd greatly appreciate it.


If Anything, lifting, doing squats, etc. etc. is going to increase your growth - at 20 you don't have much time left regardless, but lifting increases bone density, and increases synthesis of certain hormones that could help with growth. The idea that exercise stunts growth is ridiculous, and is founded on a study done a long time ago, with some very poorly drawn conclusions (something about japanese children working in mines? iirc, the children's poor growth was more probably a result of improper nutrition, rather than exercise. This is just off the top of my head though.)

So do squats and stop worrying. Your lower body is supposed to be stronger anyway.

@ dimsum - basically that. You're better at saying things concisely.
@ Shallow - I'm 6'3 (193 cm) and I'm having a HELL OF A TIME putting on mass. Getting there slowly though. Sometimes I wish I were shorter, would be better for my knees... but I think the end result will be better overall, just harder to get there =p.
@ Pushups crap - planche progression. You will never laugh at bodyweight training again.


On June 04 2011 08:31 shinosai wrote:
Day 3 of weight training went well. Couple things. When doing bench press I sometimes have trouble keeping the bar balanced. I keep it very well centered but I think one of my arms is just stronger than the other. Also when I do the bench my arms tend to shake; I don't think I'm maxing out but this is normal yes?


That's normal if you're just starting out. As others said, every muscle in your body should be tight when you're benching. Watch the Dave Tate video that was posted, and next time you bench apply as much as you remember of it. Once you've got those things down, watch it again, and continue to improve your bench. Surprisingly, it's actually an extremely technical lift.

RE: squeezing the core, this should be done on every lift. It protects your back, it brings a more solid foundation and therefore more strength to other muscles, allowing you to better complete the lift, AND it strengthens the core muscles themselves. This one's a no-brainer.

On June 04 2011 09:12 decafchicken wrote:
dear tlhf,
thank you. will post vids when I get home
-beast mode decaf


Dear beast mode decaf:
Your lifts are an inspiration. Especially when you make PR's look easy. Keep being a boss.
-me

Had another workout today, I'll post it to fitocracy.... sometime later. Got to squat again, and I think I've identified some problems with my form. Still have butwink the last ~8inches before I get ATG... nothing to do about that but more stretching. I'm also too erratic on the lowering part of the motion, so I'm losing control of my balance. It's especially making me lean forward a bit instead of staying vertical when I get tired. Need to slow down my squats. Felt good though, much better than the last time I squatted. I even did four sets because I just felt like it. o_o

Tucked my elbows in on the overhead press instead of letting them flop out to the side. WOW does this make a difference. Went from barely completing the first set @65 pounds to doing 4x6 @75 pounds. Also think I have the breathing, the back arch and the foot position fully down for this. It's really just like... a bench over your head? Seems everything is in the same position.

Full workout:

75 lb press 6-6-6-6
145 lb highbar squat 5-5-5-5
Wide Grip Pullups (BW) 7-6-5-3
45 lb Skullcrushers 8-8
25 lb Weighted Plank 30s on/15 seconds off, 3 min total time on.

Did the skullcrusher because they're fun, and I'm still grasping at ways to improve my bench. Sometimes I do them, sometimes I do flys, dips, decline bench, etc. etc. Nothing yet.

Edit:
Think this is the longest post I've made on TL.
Edit 2: Lol no it's not. I type too much.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
June 04 2011 03:30 GMT
#6593
On June 04 2011 11:50 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 11:15 decafchicken wrote:
Haven't touched a weight in a week. Here's todays snatch workout:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsLaEyxyKMM

And just the last lift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-f2subpRSE

and the thoughts that were going through my head
+ Show Spoiler +
HOLY SHIT HAVENT MISSED ALL THE WAY UP TO 115 FUCK YEAH GOING FOR 120 DONT STOP DONT STOP DONT STOP HOLY FUCKING SHIT I JUST HIT A 10KG PR YEAAAAAAH. p.s. thats my beautiful 2011 mustang in the window ^_^ /brag


edit: just realized that if i combine this with my 145 cj i'm only 4 kg away from qualifying for the american open @ 94kg T_T



wow nice!!! your snatch looks much more fluid!

It looks like your back angle changed from the lighter weights until the heavier ones. Did you feel a difference? Also try not to rush the recovery, stabilize at the bottom first. You're not going to get pinned.

Anyways thats a sweet looking gym!

Yeah I could tell from checking the vids, looks like I start my pull lower with lighter weights. Good/bad?

And yeah I was standing up pretty fast compared to usual. Not sure why. Sometimes it helps cause ill get it and then lose it in the hole.

The 'gym' is buds garage lol
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
June 04 2011 03:36 GMT
#6594
Don't suppose someone could pm me a fitocracy invite? I posted in its thread yesterday but it was quickly buried by all the crap in sports and games.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
June 04 2011 03:41 GMT
#6595
On June 04 2011 12:30 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 11:50 AoN.DimSum wrote:
On June 04 2011 11:15 decafchicken wrote:
Haven't touched a weight in a week. Here's todays snatch workout:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsLaEyxyKMM

And just the last lift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-f2subpRSE

and the thoughts that were going through my head
+ Show Spoiler +
HOLY SHIT HAVENT MISSED ALL THE WAY UP TO 115 FUCK YEAH GOING FOR 120 DONT STOP DONT STOP DONT STOP HOLY FUCKING SHIT I JUST HIT A 10KG PR YEAAAAAAH. p.s. thats my beautiful 2011 mustang in the window ^_^ /brag


edit: just realized that if i combine this with my 145 cj i'm only 4 kg away from qualifying for the american open @ 94kg T_T



wow nice!!! your snatch looks much more fluid!

It looks like your back angle changed from the lighter weights until the heavier ones. Did you feel a difference? Also try not to rush the recovery, stabilize at the bottom first. You're not going to get pinned.

Anyways thats a sweet looking gym!

Yeah I could tell from checking the vids, looks like I start my pull lower with lighter weights. Good/bad?

And yeah I was standing up pretty fast compared to usual. Not sure why. Sometimes it helps cause ill get it and then lose it in the hole.

The 'gym' is buds garage lol


I liked your back position in the lower weights, did bud say anything about it?
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
June 04 2011 03:54 GMT
#6596
Dear TLHF

Apparently we grow out of baby milk.

Regards,

Froadac's Mom
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 03:57:09
June 04 2011 03:56 GMT
#6597
^HAHAHAHAHAHA

You better not be trolling us froadac

Hi froadac's mom, whole milk/baby milk ftw~
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 04:01:31
June 04 2011 03:58 GMT
#6598
Sick lifts decaf

On June 04 2011 11:50 decafchicken wrote:
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On June 04 2011 07:45 Ravencruiser wrote:
On June 04 2011 04:47 Zafrumi wrote:
1. do starting strength (see OP)
2. throw away those supplement pills and use the money to buy real food
3. ???
4. Profit

seriously though, are the pills for free? if not, just buy some beef, veggies and milk in bulk instead. animal fat is not bad for you. processed foods are.


The pills are free off parents' insurance, that's why I take them. I realize processed foods are bad for me, but I cannot afford "real" food per say. I'm reduced to buying meat only when on sale and eating mostly soup/bread/instant noodles/etc. everyday. I'm not exaggerating at all when I say my food budget everyday is probably in the $2-4 range.

On June 04 2011 05:46 Cambium wrote:
Are you honestly looking for advice or are you simply seeking approvals for your method?

The best program for your goals is starting strength. You will gain muscles and lose fat in the beginning because, presumably, you've never done it before.

If you are inherently against doing SS (who knows, some people hate learning new exercises like squats), your "method" will probably "work". I've done something similar before (i.e. lots of cardio mixed with upper-body strength training), and it wasn't effective at all.

Yea, it's annoying when ten people just reply "SS", but it's honestly the best program for most people. If you have something else in mind, it'll probably work, just not as effectively. You need perseverance regardless which method you choose.


A bit of both I would say. I am hesitant to do any lower body work such as squats because I'm 20 and still getting a late growth spur in height, and being only 171cm I want every extra cm possible.

Genetics and whatnot aside (both of my parents are tall... dad is 184cm, mom is 173cm), I was pretty tall until around 13 when my height growth slowed to a crawl. I ran everyday and played soccer everyday, so my legs to this day are enormously ripped (like, I don't know anyone with bigger calf muscles than me... lol) compared to my upper body. I attribute my stunted growth at least partially to my soccer days (measured my heel to hip to height ratio, and my legs are pretty short -_-).

I'm not averse to learning new exercises at all, if you have some other suggestions that won't put too much strain on my legs I'd greatly appreciate it.


It's very doubtful playing sports affected your growth at all. Probably helped if anything. I've been playing a variety of sports all my life and started squatting when i was 13 and i'm 185cm (i'm also 20).
As stated, i would recommend SS. DO YOUR SQUATS -> MOST IMPORTANT LIFT EVER. You'll lose fat and gain muscle. It will make your life better.

As for living off 5$ a day...thats enough to buy a pound of beef, chicken, or pork and a gallon of whole milk (at least where i live, idk about canada). Thats an easy 3-4k calories. Stay away from processed food.




milk in canada is fucking expensive (comparative to upstate/central NY), i don't know why, it's not like we don't have enough land to farm more cows
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decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20158 Posts
June 04 2011 04:02 GMT
#6599
On June 04 2011 12:41 AoN.DimSum wrote:
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On June 04 2011 12:30 decafchicken wrote:
On June 04 2011 11:50 AoN.DimSum wrote:
On June 04 2011 11:15 decafchicken wrote:
Haven't touched a weight in a week. Here's todays snatch workout:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsLaEyxyKMM

And just the last lift:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-f2subpRSE

and the thoughts that were going through my head
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HOLY SHIT HAVENT MISSED ALL THE WAY UP TO 115 FUCK YEAH GOING FOR 120 DONT STOP DONT STOP DONT STOP HOLY FUCKING SHIT I JUST HIT A 10KG PR YEAAAAAAH. p.s. thats my beautiful 2011 mustang in the window ^_^ /brag


edit: just realized that if i combine this with my 145 cj i'm only 4 kg away from qualifying for the american open @ 94kg T_T



wow nice!!! your snatch looks much more fluid!

It looks like your back angle changed from the lighter weights until the heavier ones. Did you feel a difference? Also try not to rush the recovery, stabilize at the bottom first. You're not going to get pinned.

Anyways thats a sweet looking gym!

Yeah I could tell from checking the vids, looks like I start my pull lower with lighter weights. Good/bad?

And yeah I was standing up pretty fast compared to usual. Not sure why. Sometimes it helps cause ill get it and then lose it in the hole.

The 'gym' is buds garage lol


I liked your back position in the lower weights, did bud say anything about it?

he wasnt there today. I like it too, guess ill need more reps at lower weight to build up some muscle memory.
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Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-04 04:05:37
June 04 2011 04:04 GMT
#6600
@froadac

Well naturally you would stop drinking milk a couple of years into your life. That doesn't make it no good for you though.

I suggest to stop arguing with your mum and drink all your milk sneakily. Treat it like you're hiding some form of drug use from her. If she doesn't physically see milk being drunk then she might think it isn't happening. After the gym make sure to stop at a shop on the way home and drink a quick litre or so. On the way to school do the same thing. Weekends are the ideal time to consume copious amounts of milk. Tell her you're going to a friends house but then sneak off to the milk bar to drink yourself silly.
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