Squats: Amg those power cleans must have powered up my legs because I destroyed squats today. It felt so much easier despite increasing the weight. Made serious progress on my form. Power cleans = awesome.
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shinosai
United States1577 Posts
Squats: Amg those power cleans must have powered up my legs because I destroyed squats today. It felt so much easier despite increasing the weight. Made serious progress on my form. Power cleans = awesome. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On June 04 2011 08:31 shinosai wrote: Day 3 of weight training went well. Couple things. When doing bench press I sometimes have trouble keeping the bar balanced. I keep it very well centered but I think one of my arms is just stronger than the other. Also when I do the bench my arms tend to shake; I don't think I'm maxing out but this is normal yes? Make sure that your entire body is tight when you bench. Your lats do a lot of stabilization work while you're benching, so you want your core flexed and tight while you do the movement. It is entirely possible that one of your arms is stronger, but if you make sure that your form is tight then you'll definitely see more progress. Give 'er a watch, helped me out a lot, with regards to the mindset required while benching. | ||
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shinosai
United States1577 Posts
On June 04 2011 08:35 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Make sure that your entire body is tight when you bench. Your lats do a lot of stabilization work while you're benching, so you want your core flexed and tight while you do the movement. Hmm, thanks. I haven't really been focusing on tightening my body. That I think will help keep the bar more stable. Is this a good idea for the other exercises as well, like squat, power clean, etc? So far I've just been going through the proper motions but I haven't paid as much attention to tightening, didn't realize this was important. I have a feeling this particular thing will really increase my performance. Will update on monday. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
thank you. will post vids when I get home -beast mode decaf | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On June 04 2011 08:19 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: Being tall doesn't matter anyways. I'd rather be ripped. It's hard to look jacked when you're tall. Also, it makes it easier to throw around heavier weights doing movements such as squats/deadlifts when your range of motion is shorter. I have long arms and it seems like it hinders my bench. That's my excuse, anyways. Disregard height, acquire swole. yeah i know but its ridiculous to think exercise will make you short. I just think its annoying when people attribute squatting or exercise to lack of height. Its not like playing basketball makes you taller... | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On June 04 2011 09:18 AoN.DimSum wrote: yeah i know but its ridiculous to think exercise will make you short. I just think its annoying when people attribute squatting or exercise to lack of height. Its not like playing basketball makes you taller... Oh no, I agree completely, maybe quoting you was a mistake as I was really addressing the post you'd replied to :p | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On June 04 2011 08:50 shinosai wrote: Hmm, thanks. I haven't really been focusing on tightening my body. That I think will help keep the bar more stable. Is this a good idea for the other exercises as well, like squat, power clean, etc? So far I've just been going through the proper motions but I haven't paid as much attention to tightening, didn't realize this was important. I have a feeling this particular thing will really increase my performance. Will update on monday. Definitely, any large compound movement will benefit from a tight core. The downwards portion of a squat is a controlled movement, driven by the hips; lots of people just let gravity take them down and only start the muscle activation on the way back up, which is incorrect. For cleans, I find that keeping my body tight (except for your arms, which don't do anything besides hold onto the bar) helps with the explosive thrust after the initial pulls. Really keep a deliberate focus on your body during these movements, it'll work wonders ![]() | ||
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
And just the last lift: and the thoughts that were going through my head + Show Spoiler + HOLY SHIT HAVENT MISSED ALL THE WAY UP TO 115 FUCK YEAH GOING FOR 120 DONT STOP DONT STOP DONT STOP HOLY FUCKING SHIT I JUST HIT A 10KG PR YEAAAAAAH. p.s. thats my beautiful 2011 mustang in the window ^_^ /brag edit: just realized that if i combine this with my 145 cj i'm only 4 kg away from qualifying for the american open @ 94kg T_T | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
On June 04 2011 07:45 Ravencruiser wrote: The pills are free off parents' insurance, that's why I take them. I realize processed foods are bad for me, but I cannot afford "real" food per say. I'm reduced to buying meat only when on sale and eating mostly soup/bread/instant noodles/etc. everyday. I'm not exaggerating at all when I say my food budget everyday is probably in the $2-4 range. A bit of both I would say. I am hesitant to do any lower body work such as squats because I'm 20 and still getting a late growth spur in height, and being only 171cm I want every extra cm possible. Genetics and whatnot aside (both of my parents are tall... dad is 184cm, mom is 173cm), I was pretty tall until around 13 when my height growth slowed to a crawl. I ran everyday and played soccer everyday, so my legs to this day are enormously ripped (like, I don't know anyone with bigger calf muscles than me... lol) compared to my upper body. I attribute my stunted growth at least partially to my soccer days (measured my heel to hip to height ratio, and my legs are pretty short -_-). I'm not averse to learning new exercises at all, if you have some other suggestions that won't put too much strain on my legs I'd greatly appreciate it. It's very doubtful playing sports affected your growth at all. Probably helped if anything. I've been playing a variety of sports all my life and started squatting when i was 13 and i'm 185cm (i'm also 20). As stated, i would recommend SS. DO YOUR SQUATS -> MOST IMPORTANT LIFT EVER. You'll lose fat and gain muscle. It will make your life better. As for living off 5$ a day...thats enough to buy a pound of beef, chicken, or pork and a gallon of whole milk (at least where i live, idk about canada). Thats an easy 3-4k calories. Stay away from processed food. | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On June 04 2011 11:15 decafchicken wrote: Haven't touched a weight in a week. Here's todays snatch workout: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsLaEyxyKMM And just the last lift: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-f2subpRSE and the thoughts that were going through my head + Show Spoiler + HOLY SHIT HAVENT MISSED ALL THE WAY UP TO 115 FUCK YEAH GOING FOR 120 DONT STOP DONT STOP DONT STOP HOLY FUCKING SHIT I JUST HIT A 10KG PR YEAAAAAAH. p.s. thats my beautiful 2011 mustang in the window ^_^ /brag edit: just realized that if i combine this with my 145 cj i'm only 4 kg away from qualifying for the american open @ 94kg T_T wow nice!!! your snatch looks much more fluid! It looks like your back angle changed from the lighter weights until the heavier ones. Did you feel a difference? Also try not to rush the recovery, stabilize at the bottom first. You're not going to get pinned. ![]() Anyways thats a sweet looking gym! | ||
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phyre112
United States3090 Posts
On June 04 2011 07:37 FFGenerations wrote: necro this is my shopping list 3x mince beef large 6x tinned peas 6x tinned carrot 6x tinned potato 4x cheapest tomato pasta sauce 4x large milk Mushrooms and peppers if u can afford them I just found out there's an oat version of weatabix so will get shitloads of that My typical shopping list: 3 dozen eggs 2 gallons milk 4 bags Microwave-steamable broccoli 12-16oz baby carrots 1 pound hamburger (~90% lean) 2 pounds chicken breast, or just a whole chicken which I cut up myself (saves ~2 bucks) 2 pounds bacon 6 10 oz cans Tuna Fish Salad Dressing (bleu cheese for carrots, italian to marinate the chicken <3) Honey Green Tea Tada! I eat for maybe 40 bucks a week, not counting milk. My milk intake varies hugely from day to day. On June 04 2011 07:45 Ravencruiser wrote: A bit of both I would say. I am hesitant to do any lower body work such as squats because I'm 20 and still getting a late growth spur in height, and being only 171cm I want every extra cm possible. Genetics and whatnot aside (both of my parents are tall... dad is 184cm, mom is 173cm), I was pretty tall until around 13 when my height growth slowed to a crawl. I ran everyday and played soccer everyday, so my legs to this day are enormously ripped (like, I don't know anyone with bigger calf muscles than me... lol) compared to my upper body. I attribute my stunted growth at least partially to my soccer days (measured my heel to hip to height ratio, and my legs are pretty short -_-). I'm not averse to learning new exercises at all, if you have some other suggestions that won't put too much strain on my legs I'd greatly appreciate it. If Anything, lifting, doing squats, etc. etc. is going to increase your growth - at 20 you don't have much time left regardless, but lifting increases bone density, and increases synthesis of certain hormones that could help with growth. The idea that exercise stunts growth is ridiculous, and is founded on a study done a long time ago, with some very poorly drawn conclusions (something about japanese children working in mines? iirc, the children's poor growth was more probably a result of improper nutrition, rather than exercise. This is just off the top of my head though.) So do squats and stop worrying. Your lower body is supposed to be stronger anyway. @ dimsum - basically that. You're better at saying things concisely. @ Shallow - I'm 6'3 (193 cm) and I'm having a HELL OF A TIME putting on mass. Getting there slowly though. Sometimes I wish I were shorter, would be better for my knees... but I think the end result will be better overall, just harder to get there =p. @ Pushups crap - planche progression. You will never laugh at bodyweight training again. On June 04 2011 08:31 shinosai wrote: Day 3 of weight training went well. Couple things. When doing bench press I sometimes have trouble keeping the bar balanced. I keep it very well centered but I think one of my arms is just stronger than the other. Also when I do the bench my arms tend to shake; I don't think I'm maxing out but this is normal yes? That's normal if you're just starting out. As others said, every muscle in your body should be tight when you're benching. Watch the Dave Tate video that was posted, and next time you bench apply as much as you remember of it. Once you've got those things down, watch it again, and continue to improve your bench. Surprisingly, it's actually an extremely technical lift. RE: squeezing the core, this should be done on every lift. It protects your back, it brings a more solid foundation and therefore more strength to other muscles, allowing you to better complete the lift, AND it strengthens the core muscles themselves. This one's a no-brainer. On June 04 2011 09:12 decafchicken wrote: dear tlhf, thank you. will post vids when I get home -beast mode decaf Dear beast mode decaf: Your lifts are an inspiration. Especially when you make PR's look easy. Keep being a boss. -me Had another workout today, I'll post it to fitocracy.... sometime later. Got to squat again, and I think I've identified some problems with my form. Still have butwink the last ~8inches before I get ATG... nothing to do about that but more stretching. I'm also too erratic on the lowering part of the motion, so I'm losing control of my balance. It's especially making me lean forward a bit instead of staying vertical when I get tired. Need to slow down my squats. Felt good though, much better than the last time I squatted. I even did four sets because I just felt like it. o_o Tucked my elbows in on the overhead press instead of letting them flop out to the side. WOW does this make a difference. Went from barely completing the first set @65 pounds to doing 4x6 @75 pounds. Also think I have the breathing, the back arch and the foot position fully down for this. It's really just like... a bench over your head? Seems everything is in the same position. Full workout: 75 lb press 6-6-6-6 145 lb highbar squat 5-5-5-5 Wide Grip Pullups (BW) 7-6-5-3 45 lb Skullcrushers 8-8 25 lb Weighted Plank 30s on/15 seconds off, 3 min total time on. Did the skullcrusher because they're fun, and I'm still grasping at ways to improve my bench. Sometimes I do them, sometimes I do flys, dips, decline bench, etc. etc. Nothing yet. Edit: Think this is the longest post I've made on TL. Edit 2: Lol no it's not. I type too much. | ||
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
On June 04 2011 11:50 AoN.DimSum wrote: wow nice!!! your snatch looks much more fluid! It looks like your back angle changed from the lighter weights until the heavier ones. Did you feel a difference? Also try not to rush the recovery, stabilize at the bottom first. You're not going to get pinned. ![]() Anyways thats a sweet looking gym! Yeah I could tell from checking the vids, looks like I start my pull lower with lighter weights. Good/bad? And yeah I was standing up pretty fast compared to usual. Not sure why. Sometimes it helps cause ill get it and then lose it in the hole. The 'gym' is buds garage lol | ||
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On June 04 2011 12:30 decafchicken wrote: Yeah I could tell from checking the vids, looks like I start my pull lower with lighter weights. Good/bad? And yeah I was standing up pretty fast compared to usual. Not sure why. Sometimes it helps cause ill get it and then lose it in the hole. The 'gym' is buds garage lol I liked your back position in the lower weights, did bud say anything about it? | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
Apparently we grow out of baby milk. Regards, Froadac's Mom | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
You better not be trolling us froadac Hi froadac's mom, whole milk/baby milk ftw~ | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
On June 04 2011 11:50 decafchicken wrote: It's very doubtful playing sports affected your growth at all. Probably helped if anything. I've been playing a variety of sports all my life and started squatting when i was 13 and i'm 185cm (i'm also 20). As stated, i would recommend SS. DO YOUR SQUATS -> MOST IMPORTANT LIFT EVER. You'll lose fat and gain muscle. It will make your life better. As for living off 5$ a day...thats enough to buy a pound of beef, chicken, or pork and a gallon of whole milk (at least where i live, idk about canada). Thats an easy 3-4k calories. Stay away from processed food. milk in canada is fucking expensive (comparative to upstate/central NY), i don't know why, it's not like we don't have enough land to farm more cows | ||
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
On June 04 2011 12:41 AoN.DimSum wrote: I liked your back position in the lower weights, did bud say anything about it? he wasnt there today. I like it too, guess ill need more reps at lower weight to build up some muscle memory. | ||
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Ludrik
Australia523 Posts
Well naturally you would stop drinking milk a couple of years into your life. That doesn't make it no good for you though. I suggest to stop arguing with your mum and drink all your milk sneakily. Treat it like you're hiding some form of drug use from her. If she doesn't physically see milk being drunk then she might think it isn't happening. After the gym make sure to stop at a shop on the way home and drink a quick litre or so. On the way to school do the same thing. Weekends are the ideal time to consume copious amounts of milk. Tell her you're going to a friends house but then sneak off to the milk bar to drink yourself silly. | ||
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