EPTTL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 291
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
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Slithe
United States985 Posts
There are these things called LDL particles in the blood. When they get oxidized, they start to become damaging and cause things like clogged arteries. This oxidation is correlated with how small and dense the LDLs are (is it the small/denseness that makes the particles more likely to oxidize?). Consumption of dietary cholesterol is not linked with the increase of these oxidized particles in the blood. Rather, the danger comes from the PUFAs that are being oxidized, and as such it is the consumption of PUFAs that increases the likelihood of arterial disease. (Does dietary cholesterol increase the concentration of blood cholesterol, and is this an issue?) So the conclusion I gathered is that dietary cholesterol is good for you. If you want to avoid clogged arteries, you should stop consuming processed vegetable oils (what other factors contribute to artery problems?) | ||
thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
![[image loading]](http://www.shopzar.com/media/images/country_choice_organic_multi_grain_hot_cereal_18_ounce_canister_pack_of_6_grocery_21596.png) I guess I should stop? (ideally) Ingredients: Organic Rolled Whole Grains: Rye, Barley, Oats and Wheat. On May 23 2011 02:23 Cambium wrote: wow, super pissed, terrible terrible workout squat: attempted 270, failed like a little bitch after 2 reps during the 1st set press: 135lb 3-3-4 I think I'm going to blame the horrible failure on: 1) didn't sleep enough 2) didn't eat breakfast 3) didn't work out for ~ 1 week due to end of term partying etc.  1 and 2 will definitely do it. Plus, the alcohol in 3 will be detrimental too (I never drink before workout days now, even if that means no drinking on a friday night) Today was mixed in terms of results. Successes: (PR)Squat: 295lbs 3x5 (PR)Bench: 200lbs(+5) 3x5 (PR)Deadlift: 335lbs(+5) 5x1 Failures Ripped open a blister at the base of my right middle finger on the 4th set of deadlifts I've been having trouble with my right grip (mixed grip, right hand is overhand and left grip is underhand) for 3 weeks now. Is it time to add in grip work? Should I try different grips? (switch grip polarity of mixed grip?) I'd aprpeciate advice on my right hand. (left grip has been stronger for the last 10 years after I injred my hand back in HS) | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
On May 23 2011 03:59 decafchicken wrote: put up 110 and 132 at my meet. pissed off I missed 140cj. will post pics/vids later awesome job :D who coached you? of course not haji! grains are bad! | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
On May 23 2011 05:24 thedeadhaji wrote: Hmm, currently eating thsi for breakfast + Show Spoiler + I guess I should stop? (ideally) Ingredients: Organic Rolled Whole Grains: Rye, Barley, Oats and Wheat. yes, stop this foolishness immediately!  On May 23 2011 05:24 thedeadhaji wrote: 1 and 2 will definitely do it. Plus, the alcohol in 3 will be detrimental too (I never drink before workout days now, even if that means no drinking on a friday night) Today was mixed in terms of results. Successes: (PR)Squat: 295lbs 3x5 (PR)Bench: 200lbs(+5) 3x5 (PR)Deadlift: 335lbs(+5) 5x1 Failures Ripped open a blister at the base of my right middle finger on the 4th set of deadlifts I've been having trouble with my right grip (mixed grip, right hand is overhand and left grip is underhand) for 3 weeks now. Is it time to add in grip work? Should I try different grips? (switch grip polarity of mixed grip?) I'd aprpeciate advice on my right hand. (left grip has been stronger for the last 10 years after I injred my hand back in HS) I always train on an "empty stomach", i.e. I only take 10g BCAA pre-workout and have a nice juicy steak/shake after my workout. havent noticed performance issues yet (at least not because of that) also good job on those PRs maybe you could try straps. I use them on my worksets and it helps a ton. I know a lot of people are against it, but its better than failing because I cant hold the bar in my hands imo @decaf: good numbers man! dont be too hard on yourself cant wait for vids/pics! | ||
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
On May 23 2011 05:35 AoN.DimSum wrote: awesome job :D who coached you? of course not haji! grains are bad! FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU time to switch to eggs. edit: seriously refuse to believe that white rice > oats though wtf??? | ||
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
On May 23 2011 04:59 Slithe wrote: Hey Eshlow, I was reading some of these articles about cholesterol and their role in the body's health. However, it's getting to be quite a complex affair. I'm trying to summarize it in my head, can you clarify if I'm understanding things correctly? I've brain-dumped my summary below: *disclaimer, this is recall from quite old knowledge back in biochemistry and preclinical days, haven't revised this stuff recently at all. As far as I know the deal with cholesterol is that it is really damn complex and nobody really knows how it works. High levels of cholesterol are associated with atherosclerosis (coronary heart disease when it happens in the arteries supplying the heart). Atherosclerosis refers to the process by which fatty deposits are formed in the arterial walls, macrophages within the artery walls play a significant role by "eating" the oxidised versions of LDL/VLDLs (one of the reasons why antioxidants are good). I can't remember why LDL get oxidised more, I think it has something to do with them being saturated fatty acids. This keeps happening in a positive feedback system over time developing into the plaques. Diabetes increases the chances of LDL oxidation happening, and the insulin resistance that goes with it may increase LDL production by the liver, basically your body loses the ability to control cholesterol levels. Here's the kicker which is what you are getting at. Your liver is capable of producing cholesterol and it really good at it since cholesterol also forms the base for every steroid hormone in the body. Due to this, your gut is also really good at absorbing cholesterol. And as such your gut and liver generally work as a tag team to maintain decent levels of cholesterol, if you stopped eating it, your liver would take over and if you eat lots, your liver till stop producing, so dietary intake has relatively little effect on blood cholesterol unless you are consuming silly amounts. And for that reason I would say that dietary cholestrol is neither good or bad as long as it isn't in excess. TLDR: cholesterol ok. Diet shouldn't matter too much, just don't get diabetes, and stay fit. If by PUFA you mean "poly-unsaturated fatty acid" then I think these are still considered to be good for you. I can't remember why they are good, but these are the things that are in fish oil /' omega-fatty acid supplements etc. The processed oils you are talkng about are "trans-fats" or "hydrogenated fats" which are indeed bad for you and are associated with arterial disease. A few bits on cholesterol: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2889993/?tool=pubmed http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21385506 http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14571303 Edit: About the whole grain thing, I honestly would not take it too seriously. Gluten is only bad if you have coeliac disease. A quick pubmed search suggests whole grain products are more likely to be good than bad. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15162131 - Strong evidence suggests that whole grains among other carbs, fruits etc. are all good and managing and preventing diabetes. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16670693 - "The intake of wholegrain foods clearly protects against heart disease and stroke but the exact mechanism is not clear. Fibre, magnesium, folate and vitamins B6 and vitamin E may be important. " | ||
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
On May 23 2011 05:35 AoN.DimSum wrote: awesome job :D who coached you? of course not haji! grains are bad! I'll put up the pics/vids i got in a bit. Dave Peterson "coached" me. I'm pretty self coached though lol. I mostly improve via videos/internet/tlhf/myself. Bud will tell me a few things here and there but hasnt really coached me yet, but i really hope he does, everyone i told i was training at his place spoke very highly of him. Also, Colin Burns rolled in and dominated the 94kg class (it was just me and him) Put up fucking 140kg snatch and 171kg clean and jerk. oh my god it was unreal. He's the same exact weight as me but looks like twice my size. Another 77kg kid that lifts with him also competed and qualified for nationals, jake cicerello or something. At least now the meet is over and 15's rugby is over i'm going to be smashing 5k calories a day and training 4-5 days a week. Starting creatine tomorrow as well. Going to be HUGE by the end of summer. | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
 This guy is only 15-17 years old!! | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
Also got lazy and bought an eggcooker. yay | ||
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MoonfireSpam
United Kingdom1153 Posts
On May 23 2011 06:16 Froadac wrote: Moonfirespam: prepare for a pubmed feud with eschlow. Also got lazy and bought an eggcooker. yay Hehe didn't mean it to sound like that. My main point is that it's hard to know whats "good" and what's not beyond what is generally healthy eating. Fact is all those studies are probably really small anyway since there's just not much money put into this stuff, and actually just realised that the thing was talking more about gluten rather than whole grain which is why I should not type here while revising. | ||
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
On May 23 2011 06:12 AoN.DimSum wrote: I was just wondering who was coaching you during the meet. I hope you didnt warm up by yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFM3dHOulOI&feature=feedf This guy is only 15-17 years old!! Nah i didnt warm up by myself, knew some of the other guys there. and i cant even comprehend what just happened in that video. sterrrrrrroids | ||
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GoTuNk!
Chile4591 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20078 Posts
) and then that is the first time i've ever missed a clean at 140 (5/5 before that...) | ||
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AoN.DimSum
United States2983 Posts
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Froadac
United States6733 Posts
Went to the pt today again. Had some really strange moments. 1. A good exercise to do would be squats. (Without weights) I did a bunch weightless with good form, and they just were like..... OK... Then they had me squat a bar. So like 20 (not olympic) Then they asked if I had a smith machine... You'd think PTs would know better. 2. I asked if it would be within my medical limitations to powerclean. And they were like uhhhhh. Dunno. 3. They said I had the fastest weight gain of any person they'd ever had. Now at ~15 pounds in 4 weeks. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
On May 23 2011 08:13 Froadac wrote: =/ Went to the pt today again. Had some really strange moments. 1. A good exercise to do would be squats. (Without weights) I did a bunch weightless with good form, and they just were like..... OK... Then they had me squat a bar. So like 20 (not olympic) Then they asked if I had a smith machine... You'd think PTs would know better. 2. I asked if it would be within my medical limitations to powerclean. And they were like uhhhhh. Dunno. 3. They said I had the fastest weight gain of any person they'd ever had. Now at ~15 pounds in 4 weeks. Guess that sums it up: keep eating, squat freeweight and try out power cleans lol | ||
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