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vicariouscheese
United States589 Posts
On May 05 2011 01:14 Zafrumi wrote: just ordered a pair of ristos! yay fuck yeah, that makes three of us I think @FFgen I miss doing chinups/pullups because every one more you could do was such a huge jump  Keep at it~ | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
http://www.2shared.com/video/TGPC0x08/VID_20110504_141715.html 3 megs total, play in vlc no sound or wmp (maybe choppy) like i said not really worth uploading but thanks for your attention  1 of the 2 vids is before the guy helped me out with form a bit (stance and pushing hips on exit) looking at these, it *looks* like i dont squat down very far, but thats not my issue atm | ||
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FFGenerations
7088 Posts
the funny thing was my dick got caught in the netting of my shorts during a lift while he was talking to me, so it looked like he was giving me an erection and i got totally self conscious about it | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
now to break over 250 next time | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
LoL has its own subforum after the original thread became very popular; I don't have the statistics, but I think this thread is actually one of the most active ones on TL atm, in terms of average post/view per day. I can try PMing one of the admins if the responses are positive. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
I feel like you are going to much straight down instead of "sitting back". Knees are also leaning quite for forward. edit: I'd love a subforum. | ||
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sc4k
United Kingdom5454 Posts
On May 05 2011 02:13 Cambium wrote: squat: 250 x 5 x 3 now to break over 250 next time Hey dude I checked back through your posts I can't tell are you in KGs or in lbs? PS what are your vital stats? | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
So, I'm in pretty good shape. Been working out 5x a week in the gym aside of regular sports, I feel healthy, fit, arrogant, etc. I can see my abs, even when I don't tense them. Thing is, I can only really see the outline of my abs (1 pack, basically). If I tense them I see a three pack, or if I just worked out a six pack. Here's my question: if I still want to get stronger all round and put on some muscle, can I simply increase the amount of cardio I do (to lower my bf%) or will this cut into my strength gains? Also, are clear six packs without tensing/working out before hand a reasonable goal? I'm 1.94 (6'5), 17 years old (18 in two months). I weigh 80 kilo's exactly. Willing to work out even harder if it'll help me. Thanks in advance. | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
On May 05 2011 02:25 BouBou.865 wrote: Little bit intimidated by all of these heavy lifting ballers, but here goes anyways. Incoming six pack yada yada incoming, you have been warned. So, I'm in pretty good shape. Been working out 5x a week in the gym aside of regular sports, I feel healthy, fit, arrogant, etc. I can see my abs, even when I don't tense them. Thing is, I can only really see the outline of my abs (1 pack, basically). If I tense them I see a three pack, or if I just worked out a six pack. Here's my question: if I still want to get stronger all round and put on some muscle, can I simply increase the amount of cardio I do (to lower my bf%) or will this cut into my strength gains? Also, are clear six packs without tensing/working out before hand a reasonable goal? I'm 1.94 (6'5), 17 years old (18 in two months). Willing to work out even harder if it'll help me. Thanks in advance. cardio will NOT make you stronger (quite the contrary actually). as decaf said a few pages back: six packs (or in other words: fat loss) are made in the kitchen, because having visible abs is essentially all about your bf percentage. and losing fat is like 80% nutrition I would recommend you start a compound training program like SS or stronglifts, eat at maintenance or slightly below (since you want to gain strength too if I read that correctly) and watch in awe as your six pack develops. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
It is doable. But not easy, by a long shot. (havning a solid 6pack at all times) It will affect your strength and muscle gains since you'd be eating only at maintenance levels all year long and while it would be possible to become stronger and bigger it would happen alot slower than it would if you were eating over maintenance. | ||
MajinMojo
266 Posts
------------ On the note of squat flexibility or flexibility in general; if I can elicit the help of my friend and his camera this weekend I am seriously considering starting a project that I'd like to publish in this thread. (I'd also like him to film my powercleans for critique by you guys here :D ) Anyway, my goal is to start a comprehensive mostly lower body stretching guide/demonstration. I am drawing motivation for this project based on a number of different things. First was a question I was asked by one of my running buddies. He asked what stretch was good for hamstrings. To this I could only respond with, "There's a lot of stretches for hammies. Do a few different ones each stretching session." To which he replied, "Stretching session?" :O The second motivational aspect for this project is that while this thread is a huge resource for lifting and weight training, and includes good information for diet and wellness; eshlow's original post says nothing about stretching and from the many pages I've read through I've rarely seen more than a cursory overview or limited examples on the whole subject. I know there's probably a lot or resources to find through web searches and stuff but I'd still like to organize it in a way that I feel would be as comprehensive and thorough yet relevant to weightlifting as possible. Put simply, I'd like there to be one place available to everyone here where they can browse a fairly large catalog of stretches and/or cite specific stretches and see the technical execution and mechanical benefits of each one. Please let me know if there's an interest or a need for this type of thing. This is after all a "Health & Fitness Initiative" thread. And in my mind stretching is very important for that goal. As for qualifications I have none professionally but I have always been fanatical about stretching and have pretty much all my life been engaged in physical activities that have necessitated a shit-ton of flexibility. I don't mean to present this project as a; "Well I know a lot about subject (x) so here's some sort of definitive guide based on my own perceived gosu-ness at stretching." What I'd like this to be viewed as is a wholehearted attempt to make as valuable a contribution to this already great thread that I can. And I feel that a project like this is about the best way I can go about it. | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
On May 05 2011 02:33 sJarl wrote: First off how much do you weigh? It is doable. But not easy, by a long shot. (havning a solid 6pack at all times) It will affect your strength and muscle gains since you'd be eating only at maintenance levels all year long and while it would be possible to become stronger and bigger it would happen alot slower than it would if you were eating over maintenance. Thanks Sjarl, I edited my original post. I weigh 80 kilo's, or about 176 pounds. | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
I am a bit weary about deadlifting and lifting really heavy in general, because I want to be able to keep playing golf. Broke par today, been working really hard at my game and don't want to spoil it. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
I highly doubt that heavy lifting will affect your golf since it is mainly technical, I believe. ps. you could easily gain another 10kg with your height. would fill out your frame probably very nicely. @Majin: Sounds like a great idea! | ||
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Zafrumi
Switzerland1272 Posts
On May 05 2011 02:35 MajinMojo wrote: + Show Spoiler + FFGenerations excuse me for asking but what is your weight? I'm just curious because I'm trying to get a frame of reference for your lifts. Your bench seems high relative to your squatting weight even if you've been decreasing to work on form. ------------ On the note of squat flexibility or flexibility in general; if I can elicit the help of my friend and his camera this weekend I am seriously considering starting a project that I'd like to publish in this thread. (I'd also like him to film my powercleans for critique by you guys here :D ) Anyway, my goal is to start a comprehensive mostly lower body stretching guide/demonstration. I am drawing motivation for this project based on a number of different things. First was a question I was asked by one of my running buddies. He asked what stretch was good for hamstrings. To this I could only respond with, "There's a lot of stretches for hammies. Do a few different ones each stretching session." To which he replied, "Stretching session?" :O The second motivational aspect for this project is that while this thread is a huge resource for lifting and weight training, and includes good information for diet and wellness; eshlow's original post says nothing about stretching and from the many pages I've read through I've rarely seen more than a cursory overview or limited examples on the whole subject. I know there's probably a lot or resources to find through web searches and stuff but I'd still like to organize it in a way that I feel would be as comprehensive and thorough yet relevant to weightlifting as possible. Put simply, I'd like there to be one place available to everyone here where they can browse a fairly large catalog of stretches and/or cite specific stretches and see the technical execution and mechanical benefits of each one. Please let me know if there's an interest or a need for this type of thing. This is after all a "Health & Fitness Initiative" thread. And in my mind stretching is very important for that goal. As for qualifications I have none professionally but I have always been fanatical about stretching and have pretty much all my life been engaged in physical activities that have necessitated a shit-ton of flexibility. I don't mean to present this project as a; "Well I know a lot about subject (x) so here's some sort of definitive guide based on my own perceived gosu-ness at stretching." What I'd like this to be viewed as is a wholehearted attempt to make as valuable a contribution to this already great thread that I can. And I feel that a project like this is about the best way I can go about it. I think there was some talk about stretching in a few instances, with the conclusion that it is not really needed/necessary for weightlifting (unless of course lack of flexibility prevents you from squatting/deadlifting with proper form). I may be wrong though, so maybe eshlow can say a few things about stretching and its usefulness (for weightlifting and other sports)? On May 05 2011 02:39 BouBou.865 wrote: Don't want to quote everything (clutter), but how will push ups, burpees, shoulder dips and chin ups not make me stronger? That is what I ment by working out. With cardio I mean things like running, cycling, skipping rope, everything that gets the heart pounding basically. I am a bit weary about deadlifting and lifting really heavy in general, because I want to be able to keep playing golf. Broke par today, been working really hard at my game and don't want to spoil it. I don't see how lifting weights would impair your ability to play golf a lot of people (me included hehe) are very biased against cardio. my humble opinion is that its a waste of time but others feel different about it and if your goal is to have a six pack, it might not be a bad idea to add some cardio (preferrably HIIT) at the end of your compound routine.dips and chin ups are good exercises, but you should really look into squatting, deadlifting and benching if you are serious about increasing your strength | ||
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BouBou.865
Netherlands814 Posts
On May 05 2011 02:45 sJarl wrote: Burpees would go into the cardio category for me, lol. But you should look up HIIT (interval training). They will carryover to your lifts (which you should be doing), drop your fat and increace your aerobic conditioning. I highly doubt that heavy lifting will affect your golf since it is mainly technical, I believe. ps. you could easily gain another 10kg with your height. would fill out your frame probably very nicely. @Majin: Sounds like a great idea! I will, then. afaik the PGA pro's lift quite light weights though, basically cardio and body weight. Then again, gotta strut dat body too, so I'll ask my gym instructor (and SS, I won't forget the bible) to check my form. | ||
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sJarl
Iceland1699 Posts
Preworkout stretching (dynamic and static) is on the other hand very useful and a very good tool to prevent injuries. edit: @BouBou: And last time I checked none of the pros were really muscular | ||
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MajinMojo
266 Posts
I've used a similar program basically for weight loss and then maintenance purposes for a long time not really concerned about strength overall. And what would up happening at first was sure my weight dropped which allowed me to do more reps of pushups, pullups but my strength against dead non-BW resistance stayed constant. I'm not sure if you're concerned about just altering your strength so much that you basically have to relearn a golf swing or if you are concerned about altering your body appearance so much that it somehow hinders the mechanics of the swing you've developed but in either case I don't think it's an issue. The programs recommended here aren't for size like, "OMG I just ripped through 100 shoulder shrugs and lat pulldowns now I can't even wipe my ass." So you won't notice too much of a volume growth. And as far as strength goes I can only say that it can't be too bad for a golf swing. And the position taken by everyone in this thread is that general strength training helps in any type of sport specific activity. You might find that you drive the ball further even if you do need to readjust your swing based on some initial strength gain. | ||
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eshlow
United States5210 Posts
On May 05 2011 02:53 MajinMojo wrote: Not to rip on bodyweight exercise but after a certain point it's hard to develop any real strength from them. You can become progressively stronger to a certain point, however what ultimately happens is that since you are not increasing weight (assuming bodyweight stays fairly constant) you wind up just increasing reps and the focus of of the work shifts from a strength gain to a more and more endurance based exercise. Put simply, strength gains from BW exercise will plateau very quickly. I've used a similar program basically for weight loss and then maintenance purposes for a long time not really concerned about strength overall. And what would up happening at first was sure my weight dropped which allowed me to do more reps of pushups, pullups but my strength against dead non-BW resistance stayed constant. I'm not sure if you're concerned about just altering your strength so much that you basically have to relearn a golf swing or if you are concerned about altering your body appearance so much that it somehow hinders the mechanics of the swing you've developed but in either case I don't think it's an issue. The programs recommended here aren't for size like, "OMG I just ripped through 100 shoulder shrugs and lat pulldowns now I can't even wipe my ass." So you won't notice too much of a volume growth. And as far as strength goes I can only say that it can't be too bad for a golf swing. And the position taken by everyone in this thread is that general strength training helps in any type of sport specific activity. You might find that you drive the ball further even if you do need to readjust your swing based on some initial strength gain. http://www.eatmoveimprove.com/2010/03/the-fundamentals-of-bodyweight-strength-training On May 05 2011 02:51 BouBou.865 wrote: I will, then. afaik the PGA pro's lift quite light weights though, basically cardio and body weight. Then again, gotta strut dat body too, so I'll ask my gym instructor (and SS, I won't forget the bible) to check my form. Lifting weights and getting stronger will make your drives longer.... so yes lifting weights helps | ||
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decafchicken
United States20108 Posts
On May 05 2011 02:39 BouBou.865 wrote: I am a bit weary about deadlifting and lifting really heavy in general, because I want to be able to keep playing golf. Broke par today, been working really hard at my game and don't want to spoil it. A second example is professional golfer Cindy Schreyer. She was introduced to the Olympic lifts by Ben Green in 1993. After approximately eight months of training, Cindy increased her drive by a full forty yards, a staggering improvement for a person already highly skilled at golf. Cindy won her first PGA tournament shortly after this dramatic improvement in her drive occurred.. And no offence but 6'5 at 80kg is verrrry skinny. IMO i'd want to add 10-20kg just to fill out your frame. | ||
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