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Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
May 04 2011 22:06 GMT
#4741
On May 05 2011 07:01 Cambium wrote:
I put in a request, hope that it gets approved:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=219348


woah didnt know rekrul posted in the original thread. wonder if he ever achieved "beast mode" :D

thanks for doing that cambium!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
MeShiet
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada290 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 22:11:13
May 04 2011 22:10 GMT
#4742
On May 05 2011 07:00 Zafrumi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 06:53 MeShiet wrote:
Does anyone else get nauseous trying to break PRs doing power cleans or deadlifts? I'm not sure if it has something to do with my nutrition before or after my workouts but it seems like I'm the only one who feels the need to puke after finishing my sets.


+ Show Spoiler +
definitely not:


Oh dear, I hope I never have to deal with that. Is there any way of lessening the nausea or preventing it even? Or do I just have to deal with it every time?
If you die this way, you won't live to tell anyone how you died
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 04 2011 22:42 GMT
#4743
for your golf try practicing your swing with a 30kg kettlebell
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donkeypunch21
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
May 04 2011 22:52 GMT
#4744
Is it possible to gain a bit of weight (hopefully mostly muscle and minimal fat gains) and still be good to go for soccer? What would you guys say is a decent weight for a 14 year old at 5'9" would be while still being able to jog and sprint fast for 90 minutes?
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
May 04 2011 23:01 GMT
#4745
Tried the bulgarian approach (i believe?). warmed up with a lot of light weight snatch work, really focused on sweeping back the bar and then finishing the pull. Did doubles up to 90, then singles up to 105 which i missed like 5 times. Dropped back and did 3x70,80 then 1x90,100,110. Failed 110 like 4 times(got it in the slot on my right arm but not left arm or it would collapse T_T) And finally gritted out the last one. Sat down with it settled into the slot and finished, probably would have shot someone if i missed it. Finished up with front squats up to 2x315

On May 05 2011 06:03 BouBou.865 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 02:53 sJarl wrote:


@BouBou: And last time I checked none of the pros were really muscular


Last time I checked they were decent at golf, though. @Eschlow and others, what do you mean by 'filling out my frame'? More of a triangular chest? Can't say the olympic weight lifters make me more jealous than say swimmers/gymnasts, but lifting weights makes a lot of sense.

Quick edit: Will lifting weights constrain movement and/or flexibility?


http://www.google.com/search?q=lu xiaojun&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1235&bih=855

Weight lifters have some of the best physiques in the world IMO, thick traps/lats/back just scream "i'm a badass"

No weight lifting doesnt make you less flexibile, assuming you have good form and arent completely static for the rest of the day you'll probably get more flexible. and moving will be easier cause you'll be stronger.

On May 05 2011 06:53 MeShiet wrote:
Does anyone else get nauseous trying to break PRs doing power cleans or deadlifts? I'm not sure if it has something to do with my nutrition before or after my workouts but it seems like I'm the only one who feels the need to puke after finishing my sets.


Can't say i've ever had that...
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-04 23:01:51
May 04 2011 23:01 GMT
#4746
On May 05 2011 07:42 FFGenerations wrote:
for your golf try practicing your swing with a 30kg kettlebell

Bad idea.

Practicing technical skills with extra weight does not improve them. Swinging heavier bats before hitting a baseball actually impairs the ability to hit. Studies in pubmed on this.

On May 05 2011 07:52 donkeypunch21 wrote:
Is it possible to gain a bit of weight (hopefully mostly muscle and minimal fat gains) and still be good to go for soccer? What would you guys say is a decent weight for a 14 year old at 5'9" would be while still being able to jog and sprint fast for 90 minutes?


Look at the height/weight of elite soccer players or at least the good ones.....

Insofar as I can tell most of the better ones look like they'll be in the area of 160-180 lbs at 5'9" but it will depend a lot on your individual genetics really.

If you're <150 you should definitely put on some weight through lifting..
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 04 2011 23:02 GMT
#4747
On May 05 2011 06:03 BouBou.865 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 02:53 sJarl wrote:


@BouBou: And last time I checked none of the pros were really muscular


Last time I checked they were decent at golf, though. @Eschlow and others, what do you mean by 'filling out my frame'? More of a triangular chest? Can't say the olympic weight lifters make me more jealous than say swimmers/gymnasts, but lifting weights makes a lot of sense.

Quick edit: Will lifting weights constrain movement and/or flexibility?


More muscle.

No, as long as you are constantly practicing your technique for something and have the mobility to complete it the additional muscle won't impair it.

You have to seriously lift for a while and massively eat for this to happen
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
donkeypunch21
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
May 04 2011 23:05 GMT
#4748
Eshlow, do you know of anything I can do to improve my sprint? Besides build leg muscle of course.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 04 2011 23:24 GMT
#4749
Hmmm. This eating and exercising thing really works lol. After a week and a half I've gained six pounds. (probably more, my initial weighing was right after breakfast, and this one is late in the afternoon, and i didn't have time to eat yet because of AP testing tt)
eshlow
Profile Joined June 2008
United States5210 Posts
May 04 2011 23:44 GMT
#4750
On May 05 2011 08:05 donkeypunch21 wrote:
Eshlow, do you know of anything I can do to improve my sprint? Besides build leg muscle of course.


Best things for sprints are....

Practice sprints (top speed is held about 40-70/80m or so...).
Get strong
Plyometrics (once you're stronger)

Are you trying to competitively sprint or just regular?

Competiviely you need to be doing out of the blocks work too.

For like top end speed you want to be working a lot of stuff in the 0-70m range. No longer. Full rest times between sets (rest times are about 1 min for every 10m).
Overcoming Gravity: A Systematic Approach to Gymnastics and Bodyweight Strength
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 05 2011 00:01 GMT
#4751
I'm trying to figure out what to eat at lunch. Mom is saying I'm not eating enough at lunch: true. But she basically won't let me take anything but shit sandwiches >.>

I'll cook, but I'm not sure what would be a good recipe lol.
sawedust
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 00:12:56
May 05 2011 00:06 GMT
#4752
On May 05 2011 02:39 BouBou.865 wrote:
Don't want to quote everything (clutter), but how will push ups, burpees, shoulder dips and chin ups not make me stronger? That is what I ment by working out. With cardio I mean things like running, cycling, skipping rope, everything that gets the heart pounding basically.

I am a bit weary about deadlifting and lifting really heavy in general, because I want to be able to keep playing golf. Broke par today, been working really hard at my game and don't want to spoil it.


Having played a lot of golf in my earlier days (and had weight training for it, but I didn't care at the time) we did the following exercises. You might find these exercises and routines very similar to what was posted in the OP.

Squats
Bench press
Power clean
Carrying plates by our fingertips and walking with them (strengthen our grip)

With golf, a lot of the swing mechanics and power comes from your legs and torso. The windup and explosion thereafter is what generates your power; strength training, and not bodybuilding, will help you in this area.

Take Tiger for example. Despite your opinion on his personal life and antics, you can't deny how great of a golfer he was prior to all of the controversy. The guy is ripped, very strong, and hit the ball quite a long way.

Was he thick like a bodybuilder?

No.

But he did have the strength and physique to physically perform at a high level. His strength and endurance on the course could barely be rivaled by anyone. Put that together with his mental aptitude learned from an early age by his father's teaching and that was why he was probably the greatest golfer of our era.
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
May 05 2011 00:32 GMT
#4753
Here is a nice power clean tutorial!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
donkeypunch21
Profile Joined May 2011
United States6 Posts
May 05 2011 00:46 GMT
#4754
On May 05 2011 08:44 eshlow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 08:05 donkeypunch21 wrote:
Eshlow, do you know of anything I can do to improve my sprint? Besides build leg muscle of course.


Best things for sprints are....

Practice sprints (top speed is held about 40-70/80m or so...).
Get strong
Plyometrics (once you're stronger)

Are you trying to competitively sprint or just regular?

Competiviely you need to be doing out of the blocks work too.

For like top end speed you want to be working a lot of stuff in the 0-70m range. No longer. Full rest times between sets (rest times are about 1 min for every 10m).

thanks for all the tips man. But what is "out of the blocks?"
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
May 05 2011 00:49 GMT
#4755
On May 05 2011 09:46 donkeypunch21 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2011 08:44 eshlow wrote:
On May 05 2011 08:05 donkeypunch21 wrote:
Eshlow, do you know of anything I can do to improve my sprint? Besides build leg muscle of course.


Best things for sprints are....

Practice sprints (top speed is held about 40-70/80m or so...).
Get strong
Plyometrics (once you're stronger)

Are you trying to competitively sprint or just regular?

Competiviely you need to be doing out of the blocks work too.

For like top end speed you want to be working a lot of stuff in the 0-70m range. No longer. Full rest times between sets (rest times are about 1 min for every 10m).

thanks for all the tips man. But what is "out of the blocks?"


I take it that means you're not sprinting competatively...he's referring to the starting blocks you put your feet in at the start.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 05 2011 00:54 GMT
#4756
Holy shit. I'm +6 pounds. DOn't look any bigger, but I am gaining weight >.>
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-05 01:01:21
May 05 2011 00:54 GMT
#4757
-Thanks for the avocado ideas guys!! I still got some chili left from the other day so I'll chop some avocado and throw it in with some yogurt as well. YUM
-Yay for separate subforum!! GJ Cambium!!
-@Froadac; What type of lunch stuffs do you have available? Are you in high school?

On May 05 2011 06:03 BouBou.865 wrote:

Last time I checked they were decent at golf, though. @Eschlow and others, what do you mean by 'filling out my frame'? More of a triangular chest? Can't say the olympic weight lifters make me more jealous than say swimmers/gymnasts, but lifting weights makes a lot of sense.

Quick edit: Will lifting weights constrain movement and/or flexibility?


Adding a ridiculous volume of muscle (read; bodybuilding) might limit motion. I've sometimes wondered how some of those guys can even see past their own pecs. However the amount of work needed for that type of thing to even become a concern is so far away it's not even a realistic thing to think about. Besides, just lifting for strength will not produce those type of results in hugely noticeable size gains.

As far as pure flexibility I don't want to comment as if I am an expert, but generally speaking no; it should not affect flexibility if you don't let it. Just don't do something dumb like lift then immediately ass out for the night without eating something and giving your body time to cool down and normalize. As long as you already have some type of varied enough stretching routine for your sport it should pretty much be enough. It's pretty much like any other physical activity; golf included. I'm sure you already stretch specifically for golf and the stresses it puts on your body. Lifting is really no different. Or running for that matter. If you are running hard but don't perform stretches you will get tight and stay that way. But if you stretch it out you'll be all right.

There's studies about when and how much to stretch when lifting but I'll leave that to others more qualified for now.

edit:/ In any case, think a lot of the stigma related to lifting and flexibility arises from people who engage in heavy lifting and neglect stretching all together. I have seen and heard stories about a lot of those types of guys. My mom does work for a sports injury specialist after all and would come home with stories about that sort of thing allllll the time.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 05 2011 00:56 GMT
#4758
Yes, I'm in highschool. I have any food that would be required available. (as long as it isn't exorbitant)
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
May 05 2011 01:02 GMT
#4759
Grill up several pounds of chicken at beginning of week. refrigerate. bring huge chicken sandwiches every day. win.

Holy fuck my back is sore from doing work from the hang and some slow reps to get a feel for sweeping the bar back. Also managed to snatch athat 110 despite ripping a callus ^_^. Never stop!
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
May 05 2011 01:07 GMT
#4760
On May 05 2011 09:56 Froadac wrote:
Yes, I'm in highschool. I have any food that would be required available. (as long as it isn't exorbitant)

Then I'd say on Sunday take a few different meats and cook them. Line the bottom of some tupperware containers with veggies and nuts or whatever plus a little oil for fat. Cook the meats and put them on top and label each monday through friday for lunch. I used to do it for work lunches.

http://robbwolf.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/thePaleoSolution_FoodMatrix.pdf

You're interested in paleo right? Here's Robb Wolf's idea of a food matrix. Easy. Take a little from column A,B, and C, and spice to taste. Viola! Tasty meals!
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