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On May 01 2011 14:43 thedeadhaji wrote:
Bodyweight: 160lbs -> 170lbs
BF%: 20% -> 17-18%
Squat: 165lbs -> 275lbs
DL: 225lbs -> 315lbs
Bench: 125lbs -> 175lbs
M.Press: 70lbs -> 135lbs
P.Clean: 85lbs -> 145lbs
Dude, that's some insane progress you made, and you surpassed half of my lifts! How did you get so strong with press???
cleared/working on
Squats: 250/245 (reset)
DL: 315/325
Bench: 195/175 (reset)
Press: 115/120
P.Clean: 150/145 (working on form)
I'm at 165 lb in the morning
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thedeadhaji
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Well my June 2010 numbers were something like
Squat: 200lbs
Deadlift: 250lbs
Bench: 155lbs
M.Press: 82.5lbs
So my gains in reality aren't that large. A lot of it was catching up.
Becuase of my 7 month blackhole, I started off pretty low when I got back into lifting. So those starting numbers, esp Squat and DL, weren't near my max.
Actually, my 2 presses were actually close to Max, come to think of it. My upper body seriously sucks.
Oh, and crap, M.Press is a typo. it's actually 105 >_<
Does this 7 month lethargy count as a "reset" for SS?
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you scared me with your press 
that's some hardcore reset you did
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thedeadhaji
39489 Posts
LOL the reset was definitely not intentional...
It was a product of circumstance X__X
What is the logic behind resetting anyways?
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On May 01 2011 15:07 thedeadhaji wrote:
LOL the reset was definitely not intentional...
It was a product of circumstance X__X
What is the logic behind resetting anyways?
I want to know this as well. I just know you are supposed to reset if you get stuck, but I don't actually know what your body does to get itself over the plateau.
Too bad my gym's closed tomorrow, I'm super motivated having read your amazing progress!
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age:20 height:5'10" weight:265lbs
starting date: 5/16/11 goal date:8/20/11
training goals: drop to 245, become more flexible
nutrition goals: cut fat, more vegetables
misc goals: lift heavy, throw far! (shot put, discus, hammer throw)
lifts:
bench 2x365
squat 1x438
clean 1x282
snatch 1x226
throws:
16 lb shot put 53'4"
2k discus 151'5"
16lb hammer 174'
highschool throws (for kicks :D):
12 lb shot put 58'7"
1.6k discus 180'
12 lb hammer 193'10"
generally for a throwers training program, summer is cutting phase so we can be more athletic heading into fall training. you pretty much gain weight (fat and/or muscle, doesnt matter as long as you move well) throughout the whole season, so when summer comes, its time to slim back down some!
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^uhoh, decaf just got competition
welcome!!
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^_^ Do you throw in college? I love that most throwers do oly lifts :D (the good ones at least) You could probably out snatch me on a good day, i've only hit 242 once, usually dont make it past 231
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@ milk
LIPID HYPOTHESIS SON
LIPID HYPOTHESIS
I can't get quarts at school...
My mom will be gone Sunday monday tuesday, which means just my dad is home, which means I'm alone for 4 hours, which means I'll go to the store and just get some for those days.
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yah i throw at arizona state. i'm a sophomore academically but i redshirted my first year, and so i just finished my freshman track season. i looooove olympic lifts :D my snatch hasn't been treatin me well as of late... barely get up 216... but my bench is going crazy!
yeah, a thrower who doesn't do oly lifts isn't a smart thrower. no lift increases your body awareness and explosiveness more than olympic lifts
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Oh very cool. A shot putter from central michigan trains oly lifts with me whenever he's in town. And yeah thats a pretty excellent bench, i'm nowhere near that. think i might have you by a smidge in the squat though :D
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coolio! yeah i need to get my squat up... legs are the most important part of the throw, and my upper body is catching up to my legs heh. gotta get them legs more ahead o the upper body!
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Throwing is badass and throwers are among the most well-rounded athletes. They would probably lose meets to powerlifters/olifters in their respective meets, but they have the highest "super-totals" and could probably kill fools if they played football too.
Do you mostly do power movements or are your snatch and clean of the squat variety?
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On May 01 2011 15:09 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 15:07 thedeadhaji wrote:
LOL the reset was definitely not intentional...
It was a product of circumstance X__X
What is the logic behind resetting anyways? I want to know this as well. I just know you are supposed to reset if you get stuck, but I don't actually know what your body does to get itself over the plateau. Too bad my gym's closed tomorrow, I'm super motivated having read your amazing progress!
Basically when u push urself constantly to the limit ur body stops adapting. What is funny is that no one knows exactly why cycling is necesary, but empirical data suggest it is. Basically u either do it on purpose or ur body will force you to do it, which sucks (by forcing you its usually injury)
tldr; U have to do it because that's how humans work, but no one is really sure why.
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On May 01 2011 16:46 GoTuNk! wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2011 15:09 Cambium wrote:On May 01 2011 15:07 thedeadhaji wrote:
LOL the reset was definitely not intentional...
It was a product of circumstance X__X
What is the logic behind resetting anyways? I want to know this as well. I just know you are supposed to reset if you get stuck, but I don't actually know what your body does to get itself over the plateau. Too bad my gym's closed tomorrow, I'm super motivated having read your amazing progress! Basically when u push urself constantly to the limit ur body stops adapting. What is funny is that no one knows exactly why cycling is necesary, but empirical data suggest it is. Basically u either do it on purpose or ur body will force you to do it, which sucks (by forcing you its usually injury) tldr; U have to do it because that's how humans work, but no one is really sure why.
This is what I always thought about resets: Your body adds so-sp much muscle/strength after each workout, assuming food and rest. But the rate of weight increase is too much past a certain point, which is why you fail at your lift on a day. Even though you failed the lift, if you worked the muscle sufficiently, rested & ate it still grows. So when you reset and start from lower weights, but still eat & rest, the muscle grows each time on the reset weights so that when you hit your old plateau you are stronger than before.
It's the only thing that makes sense to me
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nice album dimsum (and I saw you talking to the ladies there!) 
insane progress, haji! keep on being awesome
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Actually, in starting strength the idea on a reset is that you're nearing the end of the program. You're slowing down on your ability to make progress on a session-to-session basis, and you're needing more time in between to recover. The reset keeps you doing work at the same style of pace, but it gives your body a lighter workload, and so you are able to fully recover, be at say 95% strength by the time you get back to where the reset was, instead of 85% where SS would normally put you at the next workout. Then you smash right on through the plateau and have a few weeks left in you before you wear out again, have to reset a second time.
After the second reset, even resetting isn't enough of a break for your body, so you start aiming for weekly progress rather than linear session-to-session progress.
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i always thought ill try "just rest for 3-5 days instead of 2" when you hit a barrier
i can kinda tell when my body isnt functioning properly from being overworked
but havent read anything about the matter yet
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