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nemY
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States3119 Posts
May 01 2011 20:42 GMT
#4521
For protein shakes I find a scoop of this
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+ 8 ounces of this
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shaken not stirred
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to be really really tasty
sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
May 01 2011 21:06 GMT
#4522
Shakes are the only thing that have been keeping me running properly the last week. Silly finals...
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
ModernAgeShaman
Profile Joined January 2008
Norway484 Posts
May 01 2011 21:21 GMT
#4523
On May 02 2011 05:17 Mrs.Jenkins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 03:21 Sinep wrote:
I don't use protein shakes. it's pretty damn easy to get enough protein in your diet if you pick the right foods, and you don't have to eat more than normal.


depends on what youre doing. if youre just going for fitness, youre right. but if youre trying to bulk you need more. you generally want a gram per lb of body weight you want. so if youre going for 200 lbs, you need 200 grams of protein and thats a SICK amount of chicken and stuff if you wanna just get it thru normal diet


actually, it's damn easy. 200grams of protein is nothing, and getting enough protein while bulking is pretty easy too. On my bulk days I aim for 3000kcal (+ ~500 from maintenance) and a somewhat of a 40/40/20 protein/carb/fat split. That's 300grams of protein. I eat ~800grams of chicken breast (~950ishkcal) in one of my meals with two bowls of oatmeal (~1200kcal). In the chicken alone, that's almost 200grams of protein right there. Add the protein from the oatmeal and milk and I'm already well over. Another bowl of oats later on and some cottage cheese or such and bam 300grams in one day.

Might I add that I'm also 69kg (~150lb) and could easily put down more food if I wanted. For me, protein shakes are a complete waste and I'm kinda suprised that you have problems eating enough protein from food, cause I sure don't :O
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 01 2011 21:50 GMT
#4524
I haven't really worked out mine
400g beef, 2 tins kidney beans n a sauce, plus 4 litres milk n 2 scoops of whey
Think its 1400kcal + 300 + 2000
Say 70g + 30 + 16 + 130 protein past 2 days in a row,
Similar on previous days but less milk more beef.
Pottatoes rpretty crap I think, fill me up fast but not v dense kcal

Protein shake is fantastic imo
Wonder if I shud try creatin. Not that I can affrd it
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FyRe_DragOn
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada2056 Posts
May 01 2011 22:26 GMT
#4525
imo shakes are more for convenience of use, rather than the ability to stuff grams and calories in your body. I used to take whey before and after every time I lifted for a couple months, but found that it exacerbated my acne problem so i dont use it anymore.

^ FitDay is a good program to download if you want to calculate total calories or ratio of protein/fat/carbs etc
aka DragOn[NaS]
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 22:39:38
May 01 2011 22:39 GMT
#4526
On May 02 2011 05:07 Mrs.Jenkins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 01 2011 16:12 Drowsy wrote:
Throwing is badass and throwers are among the most well-rounded athletes. They would probably lose meets to powerlifters/olifters in their respective meets, but they have the highest "super-totals" and could probably kill fools if they played football too.


Do you mostly do power movements or are your snatch and clean of the squat variety?


we do all the power lifts also, and variations of them. we dont do a lot of deadlift. every week we do some kind of heavy bench (flat, incline, or whatever), a speed/specialty bench (chain bench, band bench, pause bench etc.) some type of heavy squat (back, front, box, different kind of bars) a speed squat (chain, band) and then snatch and clean (and variants of those). and along with those we mix in supplementary lifts for shoulders, arms (just triceps), back and leg, and core stuff. minimal cardio yayy :D


Sounds like fun :D I'm probably going to have to incorporate more work like this into my routine than just santch/cleanjerk/squat this summer if i wanna put on some mass.


And 200g of protein is nothing, i'd say thats below average for me w/out a shake. My average meal has anywhere from 50-100g of protein and fat.1/2-1 pound of meat + 4 eggs + glass of whole milk = awesome. That being said i usually have a protein shake after working out or whenever else i'm tired and dont feel like cooking.
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
Zafrumi
Profile Joined June 2009
Switzerland1272 Posts
May 01 2011 23:01 GMT
#4527
tbh guys, milk is pretty much better than any protein shake you can get (whey and casein proteins are found in milk after all). so if you are worried about not getting enough protein (and maybe you dont have money to spend on shakes), DRINK MORE MILK!
"Strong people are harder to kill than weak people and more useful in general" -Mark Rippetoe
Malinor
Profile Joined November 2008
Germany4758 Posts
May 01 2011 23:03 GMT
#4528
Jesus, you guys really are meat-eaters here. I cannot fathom eating this amount of meat everyday. I may be able to eat like 400grams some days and sometimes I just don't eat meat at all. I cannot recall having more than 150grams of protein (while keeping track on Fitday) any given day. I don't like milk much and don't eat more than 2 eggs per day.

Ah well, I don't have a problem with muscle development, and bulking is probably the last thing in the world I should do anyway, so no need for much milk.

"Withstand. Suffer. Live as you must now live. There will, one day, be answer to this." ||| "A life, Jimmy, you know what that is? It's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come."
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-01 23:23:58
May 01 2011 23:22 GMT
#4529
pictures of me at 79.3kg

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arms are like ~12.5 inch unflexed, forearms are ~7 inches at thinest point >.>
shoulders are just bare bone
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sJarl
Profile Joined September 2010
Iceland1699 Posts
May 01 2011 23:29 GMT
#4530
You could've summed it up with one front pic, one back pic and a leg one
"Witness!" - Karsa Orlong
FFGenerations
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
7088 Posts
May 01 2011 23:38 GMT
#4531
no you must see my torso and my arms over and over again
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thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 02 2011 00:14 GMT
#4532
oh, I should add a leg one.
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
May 02 2011 00:22 GMT
#4533
Cousin came over to lift today. Super awesome. He really helped break down my power cleans for me. Can't wait to do them tomorrow with actual weight now.

Kinda sad to watch him bench more than I can deadlift though :/
AoN.DimSum
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2983 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 02:17:53
May 02 2011 02:17 GMT
#4534
On May 02 2011 07:39 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 05:07 Mrs.Jenkins wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:12 Drowsy wrote:
Throwing is badass and throwers are among the most well-rounded athletes. They would probably lose meets to powerlifters/olifters in their respective meets, but they have the highest "super-totals" and could probably kill fools if they played football too.


Do you mostly do power movements or are your snatch and clean of the squat variety?


we do all the power lifts also, and variations of them. we dont do a lot of deadlift. every week we do some kind of heavy bench (flat, incline, or whatever), a speed/specialty bench (chain bench, band bench, pause bench etc.) some type of heavy squat (back, front, box, different kind of bars) a speed squat (chain, band) and then snatch and clean (and variants of those). and along with those we mix in supplementary lifts for shoulders, arms (just triceps), back and leg, and core stuff. minimal cardio yayy :D


Sounds like fun :D I'm probably going to have to incorporate more work like this into my routine than just santch/cleanjerk/squat this summer if i wanna put on some mass.


And 200g of protein is nothing, i'd say thats below average for me w/out a shake. My average meal has anywhere from 50-100g of protein and fat.1/2-1 pound of meat + 4 eggs + glass of whole milk = awesome. That being said i usually have a protein shake after working out or whenever else i'm tired and dont feel like cooking.


my friend is going to send me a program that his coach got from a korean coach. It is a brutal strength program! Ill send it to you too if u want it!
by my idol krokkis : "U better hope Finland wont have WCG next year and that I wont gain shitloads of skill, cause then I will wash ur mouth with soap, little man."
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17743 Posts
May 02 2011 02:24 GMT
#4535
On May 02 2011 04:00 Froadac wrote:
Such indigestion from milk >.>

Arms are still sore

you might be lactose intolerant a bit
ils
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 02:38:43
May 02 2011 02:37 GMT
#4536
@FFGenerations: creatine monohydrate is super cheap, i think you can get like 100 servings for 10-20$

Mom asked me what i want to eat next time she goes shopping (50 pounds of pork/chicken/beef obv) Still won't buy me whole milk or real bacon (too much fat, its not good for you obv) regardless of studies i pull up. So i'm stuck with turkey bacon which is like 20 calories a piece (wtf) NOT i'm just gonna go buy my own 4 pound packets of nice thick bacon :D

On May 02 2011 11:17 AoN.DimSum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 07:39 decafchicken wrote:
On May 02 2011 05:07 Mrs.Jenkins wrote:
On May 01 2011 16:12 Drowsy wrote:
Throwing is badass and throwers are among the most well-rounded athletes. They would probably lose meets to powerlifters/olifters in their respective meets, but they have the highest "super-totals" and could probably kill fools if they played football too.


Do you mostly do power movements or are your snatch and clean of the squat variety?


we do all the power lifts also, and variations of them. we dont do a lot of deadlift. every week we do some kind of heavy bench (flat, incline, or whatever), a speed/specialty bench (chain bench, band bench, pause bench etc.) some type of heavy squat (back, front, box, different kind of bars) a speed squat (chain, band) and then snatch and clean (and variants of those). and along with those we mix in supplementary lifts for shoulders, arms (just triceps), back and leg, and core stuff. minimal cardio yayy :D


Sounds like fun :D I'm probably going to have to incorporate more work like this into my routine than just santch/cleanjerk/squat this summer if i wanna put on some mass.


And 200g of protein is nothing, i'd say thats below average for me w/out a shake. My average meal has anywhere from 50-100g of protein and fat.1/2-1 pound of meat + 4 eggs + glass of whole milk = awesome. That being said i usually have a protein shake after working out or whenever else i'm tired and dont feel like cooking.


my friend is going to send me a program that his coach got from a korean coach. It is a brutal strength program! Ill send it to you too if u want it!


Yes plz and thanks!
On May 02 2011 09:22 MajinMojo wrote:
Cousin came over to lift today. Super awesome. He really helped break down my power cleans for me. Can't wait to do them tomorrow with actual weight now.

Kinda sad to watch him bench more than I can deadlift though :/


Feel free to post vids, we can help you with your form! Don't worry about numbers, just lift the weight on the bar and do more next time ^_^
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
MajinMojo
Profile Joined October 2010
266 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 03:12:03
May 02 2011 03:11 GMT
#4537
@decaf

I wish I could post some vids. I only got a shitty camera fone with no way to get it online. I'd love to post a pic of the sweetass rack I found too cus it was such a steal.
Froadac
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6733 Posts
May 02 2011 04:37 GMT
#4538
On May 02 2011 11:24 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 04:00 Froadac wrote:
Such indigestion from milk >.>

Arms are still sore

you might be lactose intolerant a bit

Naw. I can tell it's the fat. I was fine on the skim.
Snapplecakes
Profile Joined May 2011
Norway78 Posts
May 02 2011 06:57 GMT
#4539
So, since my good friend Sinep posted his progress reports in this thread i thought id do the same

Age: 23 weight: 220 lbs/99 kg height: 182 cm
Starting date: 20/03/2011 Goal date: 1/8/2011
Training goals: Get leaner while still building muscle and strength, hard to say what kind of weight ill end up on seeing as its abit hard to track the weight loss compared to my muscle gain
Nutrition goals: pretty much met my nutrition goals, im eating clean, healthy and i fucking loving it!

so for some initial listing, these are the numbers from my very first workout.. note ive never trained any form of strength in my life and i used to clock in at 135 kilo a few years ago (god damn i was fat)

Lifts when i started:

Deadlift: 50 kg
Squats: 40 kg
Bench press: 40 kg
Flies: 6 kg dumbell (laying down)
"chinups" on the pulldown machine: 55 kg
dips: 45 kilo assisted

Current lifts:

Deadlift: 100 kg
Squats: 75 kg
Bench press: 62.5 kg
Flies: 12 kilo dumbell (laying down)
Chinups: Body weight first set then negatives for the remaining 2 sets (im 3 hours from hitting the gym now so hopefully 5x3 Body weight chins today!)
Dips: Body weight (Going for Body weight + 5 kilo today)


Im doing all of this using the Leangains approach, the fasting and feeding window fits my schedual perfectly, i currently work as a head chef at a place in oslo so its easy to follow. Im cutting at the same time as im building str and muscle, i have 4 low cal days a week, 3 on 1300 and 1 on 1500. ive got my workouts split into 2 days, on these days i eat maintenance or slightly under and also have a clean maintenance for refeed inbetween the rough low cal days.. basically doing the same as sinep !

Im excited about doing all of this and knowing that any additional weight or halt in weight decrease is due to muscle increase as i have yet to stop gaining on my lifts!



SQUATS AND OATS!
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
May 02 2011 07:01 GMT
#4540
^ Nice deadlift! and welcome to the thread

Damn, head chef? I know the culinary industry has some brutally tough work schedules :O
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