On May 03 2011 01:15 Mrs.Jenkins wrote: I'm not exactly sure what you mean. in my experience power clean= full clean, powersnatch = full snatch. if youre referring to hang cleans/snatches, yeah we do those some. we generally do a olympic lift progression at the beginning of the year for both snatch and clean where we do somethin like: hang cleans, clean pulls/shrugs, full clean, hang snatch, hip snatch, snatch pulls/shrugs, full snatch.
first one is a power clean, second one is a (full) clean
On May 02 2011 17:03 FFGenerations wrote: oh ya forgot to tell you
got instructed at work, with condemning certainty, that i was drinking too much milk because drinking milk will shrink my liver.
i was like "well maybe you can tell me whats wrong with having a shrunken liver" lool
People tend to believe weird things.
i done a quick google:
apparently my coworker's friend who was instructed to drink more milk by the doctor to shrink her liver is morbidly obese, and telling her to drink more milk whilst dieting prior to her operation will give her a better carb-protein-fat ratio, and hence shrink her liver making it easier to operate around. so how we get from that to "milk is bad" is anyones guess!
On May 02 2011 17:03 FFGenerations wrote: oh ya forgot to tell you
got instructed at work, with condemning certainty, that i was drinking too much milk because drinking milk will shrink my liver.
i was like "well maybe you can tell me whats wrong with having a shrunken liver" lool
People tend to believe weird things.
i done a quick google:
apparently my coworker's friend who was instructed to drink more milk by the doctor to shrink her liver is morbidly obese, and telling her to drink more milk whilst dieting prior to her operation will give her a better carb-protein-fat ratio, and hence shrink her liver making it easier to operate around. so how we get from that to "milk is bad" is anyones guess!
i got creatin by Reflex for £20, 100 scoops or so
GO TEAM VENTURE!
You've just illustrated one of my biggest pet peeves. It's one thing if people legitimately ask me why I eat (x) or whatever but I hate, HATE when I will mention some random food, exercise technique or volume number to someone and they instantly respond with an ignorant reason as to why it's somehow detrimental to me.
The funny thing is it only happens when I am trying to make an honest attempt to educate someone (usually one of my friends) not just to my specific fitness methods but to a broader spectrum of health as a whole. I guess I shouldn't expect so much from some people, but I honestly get excited to tell my more sedentary friends about fitness/health if they are interested in the hopes that they will start becoming more active. Only problem is because they perceive one thing to be wrong about how I personally approach fitness they seem to discredit me completely which is a huge diss that just pisses me off. Like they'll believe some retarded ass study or believe any amount of unconfirmed hearsay about topic (x) when it comes to health but they won't trust the experience and honest advice of someone they know personally who is frankly in much better health than them and standing right there to prove it. *vent
lol we should just be like "make me sick will it!?? how about these abs then - heres some sick abs for ya!! -" then get a topless photo of eshlow out of our wallet
On May 03 2011 02:02 FFGenerations wrote: lol we should just be like "make me sick will it!?? how about these abs then - heres some sick abs for ya!! -" then get a topless photo of eshlow out of our wallet
On May 03 2011 02:24 Zafrumi wrote: i'm not sure having a topless picture of a guy in your wallet will help your case!
ROFL actually busted out laughing
But really, some people are willing to learn and others aren't. They're not worth convincing, just get more awesome and let the haters hate
On May 02 2011 22:49 funkie wrote: finals numbers of SS:
True. I've all but given up on one of my friends. He has the willpower of a dying sloth but every once in a while will make some ill-conceived attempt to "get in shape". While its admirable that he does periodically engage in physical activities like following me for a mile run or whatever more than half the time he makes some excuse for not feeling 100%. Also he pretty much disregards any advice I give him on diet.
Nowadays I try to disguise the advice by addressing it indirectly. Like talking in general about nutrition instead of giving him explicit advice or examples. Telling him about random articles or studies I've read or just trying to interject some food facts during conversation.
Also random shit that makes me laugh about diet. I was at a family birthday party and didn't want a piece of the birthday cake. So my aunt remarks something about how I'm apparently on a diet and should 'eat more' because I am so skinny. I responded by saying something like, "I probably eat more for breakfast than you do all week." LoL just because I don't want to eat cake doesn't mean I'm cutting calories. But because of the whole weight loss craze that most people associate with being a picky eater most average people tend to assume that any "diet" is a calorie counting and cutting diet where you eat like a bird.
Funny because at the time I think I actually was sorta cutting calories. Or at least being super meticulous about maintaining a clean diet. Either way the party was on a weekday and I have strict rules about weekday eating because I know I'll blow it all during the weekend. Too bad it wasn't a Friday.
so today was a pretty good day. Squat 3x5 at 255. felt ezpz. Then i went to do some C&J missed the jerk at 195, so i put on 200 and threw that shit up. Now that i watch that my form was pretty bad. i hardly used any hips =( and i think my jerk was super sloppy as well
then i decided to try 205. got the clean, missed the jerk. holy shit i felt like dying after trying it haha
On May 01 2011 16:12 Drowsy wrote: Throwing is badass and throwers are among the most well-rounded athletes. They would probably lose meets to powerlifters/olifters in their respective meets, but they have the highest "super-totals" and could probably kill fools if they played football too.
Do you mostly do power movements or are your snatch and clean of the squat variety?
I think you misunderstood me. Power movements = powersnatch and powerclean as opposed to "full" clean and snatch.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean. in my experience power clean= full clean, powersnatch = full snatch. if youre referring to hang cleans/snatches, yeah we do those some. we generally do a olympic lift progression at the beginning of the year for both snatch and clean where we do somethin like: hang cleans, clean pulls/shrugs, full clean, hang snatch, hip snatch, snatch pulls/shrugs, full snatch.
Basically the difference is where the movement has you racking the bar. In a power clean, the bar is racked to the shoulders while the thighs are higher than parallel to the ground - somewhere above what would be considered a full squat. In a full clean, the bar is set on the shoulders while you're "below parallel" on your squat. It's got a longer lift back up underneath the weight, which is why it is often referred to as the "full" clean. Same applies to snatch vs/ powersnatch, but powersnatching is really really really really hard.
I would think that for a thrower, the power movement is more useful? Full cleans focus way more heavily on technique, and how fast you drop under the bar, while at higher strength levels allowing more weight to be lifted because the bar doesn't move as far before you get underneath it. It's more about the amount of weight you can move with your legs. The power movement on the other hand is trained above all for explosiveness, and requires that you be able to get the bar significantly higher than would be necessary in a full clean. From what I know of throwers, there just appears to be more carry over. Of course, I don't throw, and I don't do oly lifts at anything remotely resembling a high level, so that's all speculation.
On May 03 2011 03:21 xJupiter9x wrote: so today was a pretty good day. Squat 3x5 at 255. felt ezpz. Then i went to do some C&J missed the jerk at 195, so i put on 200 and threw that shit up. Now that i watch that my form was pretty bad. i hardly used any hips =( and i think my jerk was super sloppy as well -- then i decided to try 205. got the clean, missed the jerk. holy shit i felt like dying after trying it haha --
Do you ever have to drop the weights? No platform or bumpers (and kids on the side) make that look scary
On May 03 2011 03:21 xJupiter9x wrote: so today was a pretty good day. Squat 3x5 at 255. felt ezpz. Then i went to do some C&J missed the jerk at 195, so i put on 200 and threw that shit up. Now that i watch that my form was pretty bad. i hardly used any hips =( and i think my jerk was super sloppy as well -- then i decided to try 205. got the clean, missed the jerk. holy shit i felt like dying after trying it haha --
Do you ever have to drop the weights? No platform or bumpers (and kids on the side) make that look scary
Well if i have to drop it, like that attempt on 205 i control it as much as possible on the way down. And that little girl definitely should not have been in the weight room. idk how she got there.
You really should take it out of the cage so you dont get fucked over if you fail. you need room to lose the weight esp on max attempts. Your butt is popping up early, keep it low and maintain a good back angle. Get your hips all the way through the lift like this: + Show Spoiler +
On May 03 2011 03:51 decafchicken wrote: You really should take it out of the cage so you dont get fucked over if you fail. you need room to lose the weight esp on max attempts. Your butt is popping up early, keep it low and maintain a good back angle. Get your hips all the way through the lift like this: + Show Spoiler +
That is really the only spot to do them, YMCA sucks =( I have been wanting to get shoes for a while, but no job right now so i cant really spend 70+ bucks on shoes =/ gonna drop the weight to 135 and just work on technique for a couple weeks. And closest club is like 45 minutes away =(
Excuse me guys I don't really see the point in doing x5 of exercises, unless you want to enter into the olympics, why not do 8-10 and go for increasing muscle size? Isn't that what most people want anyway? Plz explain why most of you are doing x5.
On May 03 2011 04:23 sc4k wrote: Excuse me guys I don't really see the point in doing x5 of exercises, unless you want to enter into the olympics, why not do 8-10 and go for increasing muscle size? Isn't that what most people want anyway? Plz explain why most of you are doing x5.
Going for volume not density. The more reps you use the less your muscles will grow in volume but you can lift weight for a longer time(density). If you wanna go for actual usage like say you have a job where you do heavy and long lifts(construction is the best I can think of off the top of my head) then more reps are better.
It's like the 100m dash compared to marathon running. Athletes in the former look like beefcakes and the latter look like they are made from sticks
Edit: of course you will end up beefcake even if you do more reps but it will take longer time, What I've read though is that around 20 reps and you will go heavy on density and not so much on volume to the point of almost only density.
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