TL Health and Fitness Initiative 2011 - Page 15

On January 09 2011 11:20 decafchicken wrote:
Paleo bomb incoming.

Also, neco vs funkie gogogogo

On January 09 2011 11:30 FyRe_DragOn wrote:
that nutrition plan sounds pretty bad tbh. Id recommend checking out the stuff in the OP instead.

you dont need carbs as a macronutriet at all, eating food for the sake of it being starch is not going to help you. limiting saturated fat is a bad idea as well.

On January 09 2011 11:38 radiaL wrote:
funny question
What's the "healthiest" way to get hammered? Ever so often I have to, so I'm wondering what one should optimally drink

On January 08 2011 15:24 Warrior Madness wrote:
@energies: where do you get your b12 from? I know the supplments cost a lot.

On January 09 2011 12:40 Energies wrote:


Vodka, soda water and a piece of lime, or lime JUICE not cordial. Make sure to eat beforehand and wait at least 1-2 hours before drinking. Vodka has no calories outside of alcohol, so if you wait a couple of hours your liver is just breaking down alcohol and it doesn't have a backlog of food to process, so nothing gets turned into fat.

JUST DON'T EAT ANYTHING WHILE DRINKING.

On January 09 2011 21:24 Ludrik wrote:
Get yourself a BLENDTEC blender.

On January 09 2011 12:44 Energies wrote:


I take Spirulina, it does wonders for my energy levels.

http://www.iherb.com/Now-Foods-100-Natural-Spirulina-500-mg-500-Tablets/783?at=0

On January 10 2011 05:00 getSome[703] wrote:
getSome[703]
Age 18 || Height: 5'7" || Weight: 130 lbs
Starting Date: 1/1/2011 || Goal Date: 5/20/2011
Weight Goals: Probably will end up gaining weight and floating around 135 lbs. Not too picky about this

Training Goals:
Get fast-
Joining club track this semester. I hope to get my mile time back under five minutes soon. Ideally before the end of March. After that I hope to push towards or possibly break 4:50 by the end of the season. I'll try to run at least six days a week, even if it's just easy distance on the days we don't have practice. I'd also like to break 2:10 in the 800 m. The thing I need to focus on most to drop my times is my kick at the end of races.

Get buff-
My goals for weightlifting are less specific. Just consistently hit the gym three times a week and cycle through the machines and dumbbells. Hopefully the amount of weight I do on all of them goes up ^^ But mainly I'm just aiming to build lean muscle.
Oh and do my 5 sets of ab exercises every day to get a six pack.

Nutrition Goals:
Eat less cereal at random times throughout the day.
Eat more fruits and veggies.
Drink less soda.
Don't have meals past 9 p.m..

Misc Goals:
Go to bed before 12 on weekdays and before 1 on weekends.
Play less video games (doing great so far ^^)

On January 09 2011 12:15 Warrior Madness wrote:





Just when I thought I was starting to get it.... Now I'm completely confused. How would say an elite athlete or an olympic athlete function optimally without carbs? I'm gonna read that Panu blog. It looks interesting and the layout reminds me a bit of gene expression.com.

ETA: Can you paleo guys list your typical day to day meals? Is it expensive? And how has it affected your energy levels, mental alertness and or athletic performance?

I also ordered "The Paleo Solution: The Original Human Diet" by Robb Wolf. If this shift in diet has half the positive effects on my energy levels as the glowing reviews suggest then I'll be happy.

Thanks for this post. I’ve been on some version of low carb and/or paleo for the past 6 years and I have started experiencing a lot of this. For the first maybe 4 years I felt awesome, but it’s been a slow downhill slide since then culminating in hypothyroidism (with a bunch of other stuff I think is related to it, like digestive issues, menstrual issues, and lethargy). For awhile I thought it was because I wasn’t being strict enough, but weirdly going stricter seemed to make me feel worse and adding exercise to the mix was terrible awful bad.

Going back over some low carb reading materials it seems like low carb is actually responsible for the hypothyroidism. Atkins mentions that LC will inhibit the conversion of T3 to T4, the Eades’s mention it, and Diana Schwarzbein preaches loudly against going too LC for exactly this reason. Schwarzbein says that one of the mechanisms by which this happens is that LC will elevate adrenaline (which is initially why you feel so awesome) but after years of high adrenaline it will suppress thyroid function. Another theory that I think is put forth by Matt Stone is that low carb diets will naturally cause you to reduce your calories, which will have a downregulating effect on your metabolism and slow down your thyroid.

Anyway I don’t know what I’m going to do to fix it yet, but the 3 main sources I’ve read for naturally raising thyroid levels (Enig/Fallon, Schwarzbein, and Matt Stone) all seem to agree somewhat. I’ve distilled it to high fat, moderate carb, lowish protein (like 60/30/10 by calories), coconut products, preformed vitamin A, and more calories. I’ve been doing this halfassedly for a week, but I’m going to try in earnest now and track my progress with my basal temperature. If anyone has any other sources they’d like to share, please let me know. I’d like to read all I can.

On January 10 2011 01:43 grobo wrote:


Holy shit.. my dad has been talking to me about this stuff for ages telling me what a miracle supplement it is, thing is he's always mention all these new "miracle supps" all the time so i'm having a hard time believing everything he says, but seeing this mentioned by other people means it's gotta be true.

Does it actually work that well? it taste and smell like ass though =/

edit: the spirulina we have is not in tablet form, which makes it a bit hard to down because of the rancid taste...

On January 09 2011 17:33 decafchicken wrote:


I like to check this thread while i'm drinking. To, ya know, be healthy and shit. Okay so i'm a fat slob who got hammered and ate taco bell Maybe light day at the gym and cant wait to go back to my WLC with my snatch and c&j 20kg higher ^_^

On January 10 2011 06:13 Warrior Madness wrote:
I'm very intrigued by the paleo diet but I'm concerned about something. A popular supporter of the diet posted 5 main problems he's been hearing from paleo converts. I'm mainly concerened with number two. Which is that hypothyroidism seems to manifest itself in some people. My mom has it (caused by graves disease) and so does my sister (though all her t-levels have gone back to normal). So that would be my main concern with switching to a paleo diet. I think I'll consult with my GP, and perhaps look for another GP who is an advocate for this diet before switching.